What's going on with the Mora 2/0 Classic supply?

Anyway, point is guys (and girls) that if you really like your Classic Mora in the form and price you are accustomed to, better buy 'em up now. The Classics in stock now are all of them that there will ever be. After this they will all be red-stained and more expensive.
Why they think it's a good idea to change after the red-painted handle was immortalized in the public mind, I have no idea. Companies always do that. "We've immortalized the Corvette so it's a household name; everyone can recognize a Corvette, an American front-engine, RWD V8 sports car for an affordable price, a legend; we've succeeded in doing what all marketers dream of doing"
"Hey guys, I had a brilliant idea! Let's take the Corvette and CHANGE it! Let's make it mid-engined like a Ferrari and charge twice as much for it! We've got to keep up with these young guys over at Ford with their brilliant idea to make a turbo V-6 Mustang the new line-topper!"
I think that when you have a line established as "the classic" of your product, messing with it is an insult to your customers. I'm almost inclined to say hell with them and go find some other knives. I don't want "The Classic, Updated". I want the damn CLASSIC, okay? The closest thing you got to what grandpa was using 100 years ago. And I don't think people who feel the same way are that small a part of the market either.
Sorry, had to vent.
 
KHarper said:
Not from what I just heard. I heard they are phasing out ALL the Classic line, starting with the 2/0. They are apparently all, or mostly, going to be replaced by these new stained, more expensive ones. Ragnar said that they are switching to in-house production of the handles. And presumeably trying to move upmarket. I guess they figured out that you don't make money by selling a good knife without a (real) sheath at $15 - you make money selling a good knife along with a mediocre sheath for $30 instead, forcing the customer to pay $15 for a sheath whether he wants it or not, while it only costs you $5 to make it. I guess they figure the kind of person who wants a CLASSIC, not a regular plastic handle work knife is willing to pay a premium, but they needed an excuse to just jump the price that far. Adding a sheath helps. They could have just started offering an optional sheath for $15 and left it up to the buyer. I like to get my own sheaths, I shouldn't have to pay extra for a sheath I'm not going to use. But maybe their marketing guys just told them they are loosing too many sales to casuals who don't like the cheap plastic junk sheath and are too cheap to buy their own sheath or make one: "damn knife was supposed to be a good deal, only $15, but I had to buy a sheath, and that cost me another $25. What a ripoff, I'm not buying any more Moras!"
Each to his or her own.
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Sorry, I was thinking about the classic and about Henry Beige's Lynx suggestion.

I don't know why they're doing what to whom, but I hope it works for them. It can't be easy making a Swedish scandi-knife cheaper than a Taiwanese CS scandi-knife.
 
I'm confused!! :p
I bought some knives from Ragnar's Ragweed Forge, some years ago, when Ragnar was still alive! Great person to deal with (R.I.P.)!!:(
These are laminated steel. On the left, the sheath is a stitched fiber product, on the right is leather! The blades are 3 7/8" long, but the sticker on the left one says it is a number 1 (1/0?)? Both sheaths are tube stitched up the back! I remember Ragnar told me to soak the leather ones in Mineral oil, and warm them up, but I never did!
The smaller carving knives I bought with these are great! (not shown) I have used them to carve a bowl and some spoons! Great blades!!
So are these indeed number 1s (at 3 7/8")??o_O:rolleyes:Mora Ragnar 1.jpg Mora Ragnar 2.jpg
 
I believe you are correct. A #1 should have a 3-7/8” blade. Not the same as a 1/0 which has a 3” blade.
 
waynorth waynorth , those are the much more expensive laminated steel No. 1’s and are hard to find now, but I don’t think they are discontinued.

The standard No. 1 is same size but non-laminated carbon blade, and the 1/0 is smaller and also non-laminated carbon blade.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, the handles are going to have red stain because the red
paint supply is dwindling.

I wrote to Mora and they advised that the No. 1 will eventually be made in the new handle style, but for now the new red stain No. 2 was the closest substitute.
 
Thanks C Corso and E Elgatodeacero !! I bought those in about 2013, and Ragnar passed in 2018! The world is missing a good man!!
Here are the 6 carving knives I bought from him back then, on his advice!! They appear to have a different brand - Frost's Mora- and Erik Frost!!
Carving Mora 1.jpg Carving Mora 2.jpg Carving Mora 3.jpg Carving Mora 4.jpg
 
Frost’t Mora and Eriksson are the two Mora makers who merged to form Morakniv. There may still may be some Frost’s Mora knives in the pipeline. Apparently they are not hard to find used.
 
waynorth said:
I'm confused!! :p
I bought some knives from Ragnar's Ragweed Forge, some years ago, when Ragnar was still alive! Great person to deal with (R.I.P.)!!:(
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Just wanted to clarify that although Ragnar is passed on, the Ragnar's Ragweed Forge is still in business. I don't know what it was like doing business with Ragnar, but I think Redbeard, who runs it now, does just fine. When I first ordered something he called me right up to discuss some detail and to tell me it was shipping out immediately, and he answers emails and questions. When you order something you just fill in the online order blanks with "Item name and cost", and then total the order up yourself and add $6 S&H and enter that below. It's almost like filling out an old paper order form, way, way back in the day when peop;el used to have to order from a "catalogue".
Actually I think they have a newer, fancier online store too, but I like using the old one. it's different.
 
It sounds like Redbeard is following in Ragnar's footsteps, and then some!! I wish I needed something they have there!! I'll certainly keep them in mind - Thanks K KHarper !!
 
KHarper said:
Just wanted to clarify that although Ragnar is passed on, the Ragnar's Ragweed Forge is still in business. I don't know what it was like doing business with Ragnar, but I think Redbeard, who runs it now, does just fine. When I first ordered something he called me right up to discuss some detail and to tell me it was shipping out immediately, and he answers emails and questions. When you order something you just fill in the online order blanks with "Item name and cost", and then total the order up yourself and add $6 S&H and enter that below. It's almost like filling out an old paper order form, way, way back in the day when peop;el used to have to order from a "catalogue".
Actually I think they have a newer, fancier online store too, but I like using the old one. it's different.
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I like the old store, too, but I just tried the new one. It’s kind of different, too, and I don’t mean that in the pejorative Minnesota sense. I have been wanting to pick up a couple of the 510 Allround, which used to be the cheapest Mora. It’s still not expensive, but looks like a model that could go extinct in the foreseeable future given recent changes at Morakniv.
 
I have been re-organizing my knife room/den, and a dim memory brought me to a box I seemed to remember, when thinking of Ragnar from Ragweed Forge again!! Sure enough there were even more Moras in there!
I can't remember all the circumstances, but I seem to recall He was clearing out stock, at a reasonable price!! In the box I found a few more laminated knives the same as I posted posted in posts #23 and #24 above, and these four!! I planned to bring them to the Oregon Show, and make a couple of bucks to defray costs -
left them behind, and forgot about them!!!:oops:(I am slightly embarrassed!)
Anyway, are these painted or stained?? Can one tell from the pics??
Being a folder-type guy, the numbering for these FBs keeps confusing me, but here they are in the flesh!!:rolleyes: A #1, a 2/0, a #2 and a #3!!
They don't necessarily follow a logical numbering pattern, IMO!!
Mora More 1.jpg Mora More 2.jpg Mora More 3.jpg Mora More 4.jpg Mora More 5.jpg Mora More 6.jpg Mora More 7.jpg
 
Those are all painted.

the new stained classics are not in the distribution chain yet.

you better get rid of that old junk before they become last years models!
 
Actually, if you hold on to them for a few months they will double in price because everyone will want the red paint and not the new red stain. People are wacky.
 
Interestingly the timeline on the Mora website says the varnished red stain handle predates the red painted handle. So which is more classic?
 
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Camillus Camillus , did they give a date on either??

Anyone out there have a Red Stained one they can post??
 
This is what is says on the timeline on the Mora site here https://morakniv.se/en/brands-series/our-classics/

1920
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THE RED HANDLE
During the 20’s, the characteristic red handle starts to appear in Mora’s knife-making factories. From the beginning it was a given that the handles would be made of birch wood. They were stained red before final varnishing to make them look more exclusive, like mahogany. Eventually the staining was abandoned for different shades of red colors.

(Seems a little Orwellian doesn’t it!)
 
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