What's so special about the Busses?

kuribo said:
I can't help but chuckle when I see people post on the Busse forum with pictures of their pristine 100 knife collection of the "toughest knives made". What really is hard to understand is why anyone would want 35 of the same knife, with different handle colors...I could understand why someone might collect custom made knives where each one is unique/one of a kind/art work/ etc., but to get all excited over amassing dozens of the same mass produced knife, well, it seems no different than collecting beanie babies.

I also chuckle over the commonly seen picture posts done when someone gets a new knife, then 10 people post replies saying "wow! what a sweet knife!" when it is just another production model that everyone has already seen a 100 times and something anyone with the money can buy...

In sum, yeah, Busse knives may be excellent, but the fan club is off-putting....

Just my $0.02
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Harumph!!!
 
I'm glad someone had the balls to post this. I visit other threads on the forums but I cannot understand a single thing the Busse people talk about. The fan club is a little obnoxious and the lingo I don't get. Even though the Busse knives are cool I have to agree with what was already mentioned the fan club is a little off putting. No offense to the fan club maybe it is like you have to have one to be part of their in crowd... and that's cool I guess. Like I said I like some of the models the game warden especially. But for all the hoopla...no thanks.
 
Don Rearic said:
Primarily I am irritated at scammer and others like him who invade threads and shit on other people while thinking that because they do it with a smile that somehow absolves them of their rather childish behavior.

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Donny first to fire again.

Skam
 
I can get one and stay just as easily out of all the fan hoopla, but my reasoning is why should I get one if I can do the same with all the other knives I have? As far as how much heat the Busse can withstand doesn't astonish me at all simply because of the fact that your not gonna catch me playing with fire that hot. My Ontario Machete keeps a razor edge. Like I said, I have nothing against the Busse brand. I was just curious for comparisons. For the money I could just as well take the time maintain the knives I already have, which I do, and they'll last just as long.
 
cgusek111 said:
For the money I could just as well take the time maintain the knives I already have, which I do, and they'll last just as long.
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If you don't use it hard, maybe so. That doesn't make them "equal" in performance and longevity.


If you DON'T use your knife "hard" and never will, then be happy with a $10 Mora and call it "good." Just recognize the built-in limitations of such a choice. And don't think that ALL knives share the shortcomings of yours, just because you never use it.

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Who said I don't use my knives? I do everything with my knife in the bush (dig, gut, chop - do I have to make a list). I USE my knives "hard" and DON'T have them just to look at. I USE them as a tool. I have beat the hell out of a Buck 119 (and other knives as well) and it still performs like new. As far as Moras are concerned, I never want one of those either. I clean my knives and sheaths after use, sharpen them and get them ready for the next journey in the woods. I do have one problem knife, my Cold Steel Recon Tanto.
 
mneedham said:
Morimotom,

The problem here is pretty obvious, you guys over the Busse forum have too many nice knives, martinis, cigars, and hot women. Soon you folks will want live in a free, democratic, capitalistic society where men appreciate that kind of crap....
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I like this guy :D
 
It seems that you have to want to believe or you have to believe that others are brainwashed. Believe in God, yourself, a knife your skills......whatever, but do the research for yourself. Busse isn't just a knife, yes it's a community. If you don't like that, then stay the hell out. If you do, welcome. I used Cold Steel, SOG and Spyderco for years, but ended up with Busse. Why? Not because I have lots of disposable income. Because I chose to go with what is best for me. I traded and made friends, until I ended up with my current users. If it's not best for someone else, sweet. I don't need followers, I desire companions that are courteous and witty, and choose what they want for themselves. Not nay-sayers and people who argue over why something can't be that good. What, are you afraid it might be? Just about any tool is useful and can be used to produce a favorable income within it's realm of function. My oldest son is still using the Cold Steel Recon Tanto that I beat the heck out of for 5 years. We have a pretty positive group involved with Busse, and yes I am a fanboy. I don't need to convince anyone here that my knife is better, because I don't care. But, I am sick of people constantly commenting and bad talking folks who feel so positive about a knife or the company that makes them because we are a big group of people who are excited and share their experiences based on said knives.
I don't care if you like Corona Machetes or Randalls, if you're happy, cool. Let's hear about it and go out to play in the woods. But, if you just want to complain, criticize or talk down, then don't buy into it and shut up.
 
To each their own.
If your satisfied with what you have - enjoy, enjoy, enjoy :).
Personally though I just love to keep looking for the ultimate knife (albeit don't have a lot of funds to do that), but it is still fun.

Lately, I've been on a Busse kick -got a basic, and a scrapyard, and have beat the crud out of them, and they are just totally what I want. (seem like the PERFECT fit for my hands, and needs in the woods).
It whet my appetite to try out some True Infi. (and hoping to soon).

Fixed blades will run the gambit of the folder in my mind, - keep trying till I find the one.

It's fun, that's why I'm here.

We all have our own likes/dislikes, but I feel sometimes we just ought to be happy for the other guy - who finds pleasure in what he enjoys (might not be what I like, or at the time be able to enjoy due to financial or other constraints) but that does not matter, I can still be happy for them.

We sit behind our keyboards, just as normal people - there are some here who find the only real fun in their life in a blade.
If they want to show them off - let them, be happy for them.

Enjoy what you have, we don't always have to convert each other to our individual tastes.

Lastly,
There was a comment earlier about how the folks at the Busse forum treat others negatively - can honestly say I have never had that experience (and have asked a bunch of questions there), in fact it has been just the opposite.
Just seemed to me like some nice guys, who were glad to answer a question.

Hogs, Don't take the ranting personally, saw some guys rip a poor member to shreds for buying the Bear Grylls knife - same story "can't believe he would pay that much" - does not matter if it was made out of plastic, if the guy had the spare $ to buy it, and he likes it, and it gives him enjoyment in this nuthouse world, isn't that the point?

Nutshell:
Enjoy what God has blessed you with, and be happpy for the other guy who is also trying to enjoy his blessings.

Take it easy.
 
Evolute said:
Don,

I'm guessing you are referring to this comment of mine...



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Specifically, Jerry Busse has told me in private conversation, and answered publicly on the forum, that his knives made from INFI can withstand ~1,100 Fahrenheit for a little over an hour without damaging the temper. The temper of most carbon steel blades would be ruined by a few minutes exposure to 400-500 degrees (or so I've been told by makers of carbon steel knives). Jerry Busse has said that 400-500 degree heat is pretty harmless to his INFI knives, as I recall.

Is that useful, or not? That depends on a lot of factors, but I don't have any difficulty imagining a scenario where it could come in handy. For example, if someone accidentally dropped their knife in the fire, or just unthinkingly left the knife too close to the fire ring. A Busse knife would probably be fine; many other knives wouldn't. For that matter, you could probably use the Busse as a spit for roasting a marshmallow, or even cooking a piece of meat, without harming it. Or sterilize the blade with a flame, if need be.

That kind of fire resistance may be useless in regard to your needs and uses, but it's not intrinsically useless.
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Will you let me heat your Busse to 1,100oF for an hour. If you will then I will consider buying one. I will pay the freight both ways and video the entire process. Then I will test first hardness and then practical use and edge holding. And what is INFI? Seeing that Busse is not in the steel business he has some other company roll steel to his secret specifcations that no other knife maker can duplicate. Or he uses 1095.

I thought about buying a Busse some years back but then Jerry posted about using his knife to pry open a car door and rescuing the driver. Bullstuff! I trained firefighters for years in vehicle extrication and I know how to open doors with the Jaws of Life". I also know field expediant methods. If anyone will send me their Busse and allow me to cut a door bolt with it or pry open a door with it I will buy one. I will video the entire evolution and send your knife back to you afterward. Takers. I didn't think so. The problem isn't the knives, it is Jerry's attitude and it carries over to a few owners. In closing I always get a laugh when someone talks about how he owns the toughest knife on the planet and then shows a picture of a drawer queen.
 
2dogs said:
Will you let me heat your Busse to 1,100oF for an hour. If you will then I will consider buying one. I will pay the freight both ways and video the entire process. Then I will test first hardness and then practical use and edge holding. And what is INFI? Seeing that Busse is not in the steel business he has some other company roll steel to his secret specifcations that no other knife maker can duplicate. Or he uses 1095.

I thought about buying a Busse some years back but then Jerry posted about using his knife to pry open a car door and rescuing the driver. Bullstuff! I trained firefighters for years in vehicle extrication and I know how to open doors with the Jaws of Life". I also know field expediant methods. If anyone will send me their Busse and allow me to cut a door bolt with it or pry open a door with it I will buy one. I will video the entire evolution and send your knife back to you afterward. Takers. I didn't think so. The problem isn't the knives, it is Jerry's attitude and it carries over to a few owners. In closing I always get a laugh when someone talks about how he owns the toughest knife on the planet and then shows a picture of a drawer queen.
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It's amazing how many posts I read like this. You really should try reading more than a couple posts in a forum before you start rambling about what is said or posted on a regular basis. Brilliant.
 
I'll say it again, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST BUSSE or anybody that owns one. I haven't in anyway talked down about them or their owners. I just wanted some comparisons to other knives for research purposes. I sure as hell am not going to buy a Busse without out doing some research, that's because they cost so much. I am not going to put money into something that I don't know about. I'll ask as many people on this forum who uses one as I can. I have come to my conclusion. I can do the same thing with my knives that I could with a Busse. I don't see any problem with that.
 
cgusek111 said:
I'll say it again, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST BUSSE or anybody that owns one. I haven't in anyway talked down about them or their owners. I just wanted some comparisons to other knives for research purposes. I sure as hell am not going to buy a Busse without out doing some research, that's because they cost so much. I am not going to put money into something that I don't know about. I'll ask as many people on this forum who uses one as I can. I have come to my conclusion. I can do the same thing with my knives that I could with a Busse. I don't see any problem with that.
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That is truly the best any of us can do. I don't need the claims or a Nuclear reputation to do what I want. I just want the knife I like the best. Sounds like you might still be looking for yours. Good luck!:thumbup:
 
mymindisamob said:
It's amazing how many posts I read like this. You really should try reading more than a couple posts in a forum before you start rambling about what is said or posted on a regular basis. Brilliant.
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Dude. I'm a regular. Been here for years.
 
2dogs said:
Dude. I'm a regular. Been here for years.
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I see that. But your comments read the same as the regimented pigeonholing of posters who seem to think that Busse owners are all anti-this and anti-that, swingers of unused blades, while spouting their superiority. It just ain't like that the majority of the time. I'm happy for anyone who has found their go-to-the grave blade, no matter what brand or design. Why can't others be glad that someone else is so pleased with the choices they made, and that they are happy to show and share with others?
 
2dogs,

I'd rather not push the knives right to the limit, unnecessarily, but... how about this counter-offer:

How about you and I heat one of my Busse knives to 500 degrees for an hour, right next to one of your carbon steel knives, along with us photographing, measuring, and testing them each, before and after. We can test whether Busse knives actually have superior heat resistance or not. It sounds like fun to me.

No need to pay freight. We live close to each other; let's do it in person, together.
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Are you implying that I have a problematic "attitude"? If so, I'd like to hear precisely what "attitude" you believe I have, specifically why you believe I have it, and exactly what you find problematic about it.

As for Jerry's "attitude", in my experience, it's a good one. He's the only knifemaker who gives me a hug when he sees me, the only knifemaker who calls me up to ask how I'm doing and share some laughs; the only knifemaker to draw a treasure map for me and give me clues to find a hidden stash of his knives; the only knifemaker who has traded my art for his knives; the only knifemaker to have become a friend of mine.

He does his best to make the best product he can and offer the best service he can. I suspect you are projecting upon him attitude problems that either are not true attitude problems, or that he does not actually have.
 
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