What's the composition of Sandvik 14C28N?

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What's the composition of Sandvik 14C28N?

I know it is similar to 13C26 but with nitrogen, but could not find the exact composition.
 
SuzukiGS750EZ said:
http://www.smt.sandvik.com/strip. Click applications then razor blades. 13c26 was the closest i could find. 14c28n is ver similar but just a little more corrosion resistant with a better edge holding. i have an older blur with 13c26n
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Well I don't think 13C26 is in need of more corrosion resistance, as I have never been able to get mine to rust.

14C28N seems interesting though, but the composition is unknown.
 
cotdt said:
Well I don't think 13C26 is in need of more corrosion resistance, as I have never been able to get mine to rust.

14C28N seems interesting though, but the composition is unknown.
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Really? I get rust on mine and polish it every so often with noxon. It gets blotchy spots not full on pits.
 
spiralarchitect said:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=560855&highlight=14c28n&page=2

Start with post 26. The poster with the screen name RazorSharp is Jerker, a rep from Sandvik.
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Ah OK, so I see that it is:

Carbon: 0.62%
Chrome: 14%
Nitrogen: 0.08%

Kind of like the fully stainless version of INFI but without the molybdenum and vanadium.

SuzukiGS750EZ said:
Really? I get rust on mine and polish it every so often with noxon. It gets blotchy spots not full on pits.
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I guess it's because you live in Connicticut. Here in California I have some vintage carbon steel blades from the 1850's and it only has minor rust spots from all this time.
 
cotdt said:
What's the composition of Sandvik 14C28N?

I know it is similar to 13C26 but with nitrogen, but could not find the exact composition.
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You recently told the forum that 14C28N is a downgrade from 13C26, while laughing no less. Now you're asking what 14C28N is?

I'd be a bit more careful in the future with your "controversial" comments as they may be considered trolling, at least that's what they look like to me.
 
Thomas W said:
You recently told the forum that 14C28N is a downgrade from 13C26, while laughing no less. Now you're asking what 14C28N is?

I'd be a bit more careful in the future with your "controversial" comments as they may be considered trolling, at least that's what they look like to me.
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From my point of view it is indeed a downgrade, because of the slightly higher carbide volume. I did not need to know the composition to figure this out, could guess so from the naming.

You are pretty argumentive for a knife company representative.
 
cotdt said:
From my point of view it is indeed a downgrade, because of the slightly higher carbide volume. I did not need to know the composition to figure this out, could guess so from the naming.
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Of course we all have a point of view, I guess if you feel it's a downgrade, it is in your world. Kai USA and Sandvik feel the opposite. It's all good.

You are pretty argumentive for a knife company representative.
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Where's the argument? I get down in your backyard regularly, maybe some day we can talk face to face. I think you'd actually like me.

I'm still learning how a rep should act...I need a bit more time. Maybe we need a sticky?

Thanks for the understanding.
 
cotdt said:
From my point of view it is indeed a downgrade, because of the slightly higher carbide volume. I did not need to know the composition to figure this out, could guess so from the naming.

You are pretty argumentive for a knife company representative.
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Just because he works for kershaw he can't be a human and voice his opinion or have harsher statements than "sir you are correct"? At least hes real, respect him for that.
 
Thomas W said:
You recently told the forum that 14C28N is a downgrade from 13C26, while laughing no less. Now you're asking what 14C28N is?

I'd be a bit more careful in the future with your "controversial" comments as they may be considered trolling, at least that's what they look like to me.
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LO F'in L

cotdt said:
Kind of like the fully stainless version of INFI but without the molybdenum and vanadium.
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Has the composition of INFI ever been fully disclosed?

cotdt said:
You are pretty argumentive for a knife company representative.
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Says the fellow who has talks trash, then asks about the facts...POST FACTO! Ta da!

Thomas W said:
I'm still learning how a rep should act...I need a bit more time.
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You're SUCH a newb. :p:p:p

For my opinion, because, well, everyone knows I'm an opinionated a-hole...14C28N is vastly superior in hardness and toughness to 13C26...the corrosion resistance is just a bonus.
 
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Thomas W said:
I guess if you feel it's a downgrade, it is in your world. Kai USA and Sandvik feel the opposite. It's all good.

Thanks for the understanding.
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I just purchased my first Kershaw, (the mini Cyclone) and while I would never pretend to be an expert, this 13 steel this thing is made out of seems amazing to me so far. I'm the type of guy who can take a knife that just needs a little touched up and make it a butter knife. However, I can place a razor edge on this Kershaw. :thumbup: Now you state the 14 is even better.................I guess I need to place another order. lol :)

Have all of the Kershaw models been switched over to the new steel? (My Cyclone was dated Jan-09)

Thanks

Bill
 
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I've been more than impressed with Sandvik steel in my EDC uses. It's not a super steel, but I've never been disappointed with it. YMMV but I certainly like it.
 
Thomas is a good guy. I'd like him better if he didn't hate people who are left handed :grumpy:

Just kidding :D
 
Thomas W said:
Of course we all have a point of view, I guess if you feel it's a downgrade, it is in your world. Kai USA and Sandvik feel the opposite. It's all good.

Where's the argument? I get down in your backyard regularly, maybe some day we can talk face to face. I think you'd actually like me.

I'm still learning how a rep should act...I need a bit more time. Maybe we need a sticky?

Thanks for the understanding.
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Exemplary reply to a self-confessed trouble maker. :thumbup: I think you're starting to get the hang of this company rep thing. :D
 
Thomas W said:
Where's the argument? I get down in your backyard regularly, maybe some day we can talk face to face. I think you'd actually like me.
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OK, but you buy the beer.

You argue that 14C28N is a better steel than 13C26, but the comparison is unfair because the 14C28N is heat treated significantly harder despite the two steels being similar. It is easy for a company to say that a new product is better, without proof. Sure 14C28N may be more corrosion resistant, but no evidence that it would hold a better edge at the same hardness.
 
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