What's up with the Spyderco Southard?

extrastout said:
People feed off the hype, get excited and spend the money before they realize they can't afford the blade. Then the next months bills come in and the next thing you know, your grail knife is on the auction block. I know from experience, but I have learned.
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Been there, done that. I also sell knives because I just don't need a jillion knives in rolls all over my closet. Selling older knives also keeps the budget under control.:cool:
 
I am in agreement with many people on this thread! I love my Southard flipper. I've been buying/selling on here for the past year, mostly out of curiosity to try a range of different blades! It is the most expensive folder I have ever bought, and I'm pretty sure I will never sell it. Everything I have bought since its arrival gets compared to it, and if they don't replace the Southard in my pocket, I tend to end up selling them. I am not much of a collector, with no more than 4-5 knives in the "collection" at one time.

And, just because you see a knife frequent the exchange does not mean that there is anything wrong with it. If you notice, they also tend to sell quickly, so if something were a problem, why would people be snatching them up? As stated, some are impulse buys, some are not exactly the knife that people are looking for, and some are because life happens and money needs to be focused elsewhere.

I cannot recommend this knife enough though. It flips great (glad it is not AO), is comfortable in hand, and is constructed from premium materials. Way to go Spyderco.
 
My guess is that you are a KAI fan, or started collecting relatively recently. AO on the Southard would be very odd imo. It's simply not needed, and would detract from the knife.

Have you had a chance to hold one? They are indeed nice and smooth. I can get it past the detent without it locking all the way open, but my understanding is that this is the case with almost all flippers, and it doesn't bother me.

I hope you don't construe my meaning as being rude, I'd just like to see you get a chance to handle one. They are good knives, and worth the price tag so long as you can afford it without it hurting you financially. If you can barely swing one it may not seem worth the money. Just my opinion.
 
I'll bet many of us couldn't afford to find some of our most prized knives if we couldn't buy and sell our nicest knives if they exactly right for us, or maybe if there's something worth trying out. A lot of people seemed to be following the Southard's pre-release information, so probably a lot of people are testing them out now, getting a feel for it and figuring out if it would be better to just pass it on to someone who may want it more.

Doesn't mean a lot of those sellers aren't planning on getting another later on when the price comes down and cheaper used ones are around.
 
RemyKaze said:
This more than anything. Poor impulse control. Can't tell you how often I see "picked this up last week but bills are coming due so I have to let it go" or something similar. Some people budget their hobbies poorly. I'm guilty of it at times myself...it's easy to quickly work yourself up to a buy.
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Yeah that makes a lot of sense. I was interested in it and seeing so many for sale had me a little worried about buying one.

I've never owned a non assisted flipper. All the flippers I have are Zt.

Thanks for all the great answers and different outlooks to the situation :)
 
cncpro11 said:
Who wants to pay $250 for a spring assisted knife?
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There are likely more than a few people who would faint at getting a genuine Ken Onion for $250.

I wouldn't give $25 for a flipper, AO or not, unless it is an early example of the CRKT M16, and only because it fits into a collection theme of modern production knife firsts (for which I would pay more, go figure), not because I have any desire whatsoever to carry another flipper. Been there, done that, decided not to do it again. The only AO I have is a Meyerco Strut N Cut, for the exact same reason, and it stays in the box.
 
This knife really don't need to be AO. It is the quickest flipper I 've handled. Even quicker than ZT0300 with AO. Really great knife the best Spyderco.
F&F is great, never seen non centered blade on these.
 
I have about 10 KAI knives including a ZT 561, an Emerson, a CRKT, and one Spyderco (Southard). The Southard is far and away my favorite knife. It's the best build quality and the best design, although I have modified mine with a thinner sculpted G10 scale and a Ti deep carry pocket clip. I'd also like to install a wave clip that fits into the spydie hole without altering the knife and without compromising it's aesthetics. It shouldn't be that hard in either G10 or Ti.

BTW, the Emerson wave is so superior to AO that it's not funny, provided it's made right. Also works as a thumb ramp when open. AO is fun for about 10 minutes. It has a use for Special Forces, but automatic knives are better and those guys can carry autos legally so probably do. Anyway, the Southard works so well as a flipper it's more relevant to ask why all knives aren't manual flippers?
 
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Another thing that hasn't been pointed out is that at first Southards were getting crazy trades. I saw at least one trade for a Seb. There were other examples too. That may no longer be the case, but I'm sure it had something to do with the first influx of offerings on the exchange. Hell, at least one guy paid full msrp ($399.00) for his when he couldn't find it in stock. People see this and buy more than one. I know of at least 2 guys who bought 4 of them.
 
There's Absolutely Nothing wrong with the Southard! It's 1 of the best knives out there now IMO.

I watched vid last nite on the Southard. It locks up in 3 different places. I don't think there's a knife a the market that locks up in Three different places.

AO would have ruined the knife! IMO. This knife doesn't need AO. It was designed to be a flippper for a very good reason. Ask Brad Southard the designer.

Lots of different types and sizes of knives out there. Every knife isn't going to have all of the features Everyone wants in a knife. That's the bottom line.

I like this knife a lot. It's one of the Best Spyderco has ever made.

There are several good threads on the Spyderco forum, you may have to go back several pages, on the Southard.

I started a thread on the Southard on the Spydie forum. One member said he liked the Southard better than his Seb. He didn't carry the Seb much any more since he got

his Southard......
 
Can you show some photos or link to a video to explain the 3 point lock-up? Seems like a standard frame lock in the vid I watched.
clockman said:
There's Absolutely Nothing wrong with the Southard! It's 1 of the best knives out there now IMO.

I watched vid last nite on the Southard. It locks up in 3 different places. I don't think there's a knife a the market that locks up in Three different places.

AO would have ruined the knife! IMO. This knife doesn't need AO. It was designed to be a flippper for a very good reason. Ask Brad Southard the designer.

Lots of different types and sizes of knives out there. Every knife isn't going to have all of the features Everyone wants in a knife. That's the bottom line.

I like this knife a lot. It's one of the Best Spyderco has ever made.

There are several good threads on the Spyderco forum, you may have to go back several pages, on the Southard.

I started a thread on the Southard on the Spydie forum. One member said he liked the Southard better than his Seb. He didn't carry the Seb much any more since he got

his Southard......
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OrdnanceBubbaUSMC said:
Can you show some photos or link to a video to explain the 3 point lock-up? Seems like a standard frame lock in the vid I watched.
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Sorry, I watched a few videos on the Southard. I didn't notice what the YT user's name was or the link was.

I thought it was amazing/awesome that the Southard locked up in 3 places. The YT poster took the knife apart and made a drawing of a lockup point on

the inside of the knife. A half moon slot that part of the inside of the knife locks on. Plus the lock bar and the back side of the lock bar. That's 3 places that

the knife locks up.

Sorry I can't give you a link. I started out on BF and went to YT on the next vid I clicked on.

If you have a Southard. Open the knife very slowly. You will see that back side of the lock bar locks up at the same time

the front side lock bar locks. An ingenious design, I think!
 
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Im interested to see this also, seems to be something that hasn't really been noticed or talked about (surprisingly). Maybe try your browser history? :)
 
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