What's your favourite movie knife fight?

I meant it was what is likely to happen in real combat and possibly a street fight as opposed to two unarmed guys in speedos rolling around on a soft mat for several minutes.
 
Benjamin Liu said:
I meant it was what is likely to happen in real combat and possibly a street fight as opposed to two unarmed guys in speedos rolling around on a soft mat for several minutes.
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FWIW, my buddy John Danaher (author of Mastering Jujutsu with Renzo Gracie) used his BJJ skills to very good effect for many years, while working as a bouncer in NYC.

You sound rather dismissive of MMA/NHB, and that's a real shame, because there's plenty of technique involved, and it actually has a long history--you know, the Ancient Greek pankration and whatnot.

And, if you're completely preoccupied with armed combat, you might want to check out JKD instructor Joe Maffei's material on armed grappling--Maffei has combined his training in FMA knifework with BJJ.

Peace,

David
 
A slight thread drift here, but I'd also recommend our Sayoc Kali CQ weapons material. There will be some DVDs that focus on this material some time soon.

If you get a chance to see Tuhon Tom Kier at a seminar, he'll be covering this material in the future.

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Sun Helmet said:
A slight thread drift here, but I'd also recommend our Sayoc Kali CQ weapons material. There will be some DVDs that focus on this material some time soon.

If you get a chance to see Tuhon Tom Kier at a seminar, he'll be covering this material in the future.

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Rafael,

The DVDs sound great--please keep us posted! :D

Peace,

David
 
Thanks to all for your opinions and discussions!

My apologies for not responding sooner, but I posted in a hurry and forgot to subscribe, but it was great to come back to a 5 page thread when I did.

The replies made me try a bit harder to get a copy of Exposure/High Art, released in the UK as 'The Knife'.

It was a better film than I expected, with a good cast and a reasonably good script, considering its B-movie status.

The reason I asked the question is that, although film entertainment is fantasy, sometime you get the impression that whoever wrote or choreographed a scene knows "a little somethin'"

Clearly this is the case with the Hunted (despite its crap narrative), and I'll pick up a copy when they hit the bargain bin. Do the DVD special features add anything to the knife scenes?

Another example is first blood, where most of the H2H fighting (particulary the jailbreak scene) is done 'around' the knife (ie. not using it). This is quite a common theme in authentic kungfu forms, where many of the techniques are for weapon retention, grappling, shortcuts and recovery. It teaches you not to focus on the weapon, but on the objective.

Now that I have an NTSC video machine I look forward to getting some of the 'must have' instructional material, but some films have valuable lessons nevertheless.

Kill Bill 2, Twilight Samurai and Zatoichi (2003) all nicely illustrated the principle of the (close quarter) environment and its impact on the effectiveness of long weapons. The knife fight in Kill Bill 1 was pretty, too.

The scene in Saving Private Ryan was truly awful, and probably the best remedy for a hot headed knife-knut! Its also a powerful allegory for the true cost of war.

Finally, I got a nice surprise from a film called "Ballistic: Ecks vs Sever".

Its sort of a Hong Kong/Canadian hybrid with Antonio Banderas and Lucy Liu, the plot is a bit tenous but it features a couple of nice knife fights, some of the techniques looked a little like the chinese dagger/short sword techniques that I have seen. there's also a smooth double stick scene and a little chain fighting.
 
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It has a few minutes of the actors and us on location, with the director commenting on the amount of training and other details about the actual shooting location. The terrain dictated how we handled the fight scenes, as well as what the script needed to get to point A to point B. The DVD certainly shows more of the behind the scenes of the shoot.

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My vote is for Last of the Mohicans. That last seen when the father faces Magua :eek:

I <3 that movie :)
 
JoHnYKwSt said:
Black Ninja
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I have decided that I hate you. No, just kidding. I'm amazed that anyone else actually got through that movie to see any of the horrible knife fighting. And that ninja... could he use a balisong any slower? The only thing to save that seen was some guy behind the camera doing the sound f/x with his mouth all "Woosh wooosh woosh" like.

I'm going to put my money on Versus. It was a good movie that was not mucked up with names or a plot. Hell, it barely had a premise! It was just one long Samurai-Zombie-KungFu-Gun/Sword-fight. Mmm-mm, Delicious.
 
I recommend Fukuro no Shiro aka Owl's Castle - one out of nine reasonably historically accurate ninja movies. Seeing two ninja reverse grip knife fighting each other while escaping from lord Tokugawas castle is pure poetry in motion. :cool:
 
Since this thread got resurected, I'll agree w/ those who listed Under Seige 2.

But I liked Indiana Jones where the bad guy brandishes his sword. Indy then pulls his gun and shoots the bad guy. Reminder not to come to a gun fight w/ a knife! :) :)
 
I just read all 5 pages and I cant believe this movie or man was not mentioned!
BRUCE LEE,FISTS OF FURY!
This movie contains mucho knife fighting as well as hatchet and even a rusty sawblade.
Bruce only made 4 movies before his death and all of them included knives,swords,darts,hatchets,and even a cleaver.
His final movie Enter the Dragon ended in his fight scene with Mr. Han who had a pop on false hand which was 3 long sharp blades.
Am I alone in remembering this,I hope not!Doug..............
 
No particular order here:

The Hunted
Dune (crap but hey - the book was awesome)
The Last of the Mohicans
Under Seige
Windtalkers
The Bourne Identity (okay it was a Bic - but it is the same thing people!! :D)


Umm can't think right now...

Cheers,
Nathan.
 
Recce said:
I most realistic one is the knife fight in Long Riders with David Carradine against someone else. They used Western bowies and the loser had one stuck in their leg - very realistic.
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That's funny, I was just watching that on DVD last night. They were fighting over a whore (er, prostitute). Carradine says "what do we win" and she says "nothing you both ain't already had"

They had to bite down on the opposite end of a nylon or scarf so they couldn't just back away easily. The indian pulls out this mondo bowie smilin, then Carradine reaches behind his back and comes out with an equally massive blade. I'm not sure how accurate the fight choregraphy was. There was alot of arm swinging and blade clanging, kinda like a sword fight. But pretty cool anyways.

After he wins, Carradine just walks off without her...
 
My vote would be for the Paris apartment fight scene in "The Bourne Identity" where Bournes' attacker uses a push dagger and Bourne uses a Bic pen. Some nice Sayoc Kali action.

The sequel had a nice scene with an attacker using a kitchen knife and Bourne using a rolled up magazine.

Can't wait to see those DVD's Rafael, sounds cool.
 
Well, I put my vote on the Hunted knife. I ws lucky enough to get an original Beck made one this year. Great blade for outdoor usage and it has some heft to it!!
 
I agree with the Bourne movie scenes. The fight in his Paris apartment was just plain ol' cool. It just goes to show what a bit of training can do... :eek: :cool:

"Jason Bourne" - no vested interest in your posts, eh? :D
 
Rob Roy was great, esp. the last fight scene.

Saving Pvt. Ryan was awesome and the knife scene was probably the most realistic--especially since it shows that the "good guys" don't always win.

I also liked the knife vs chain fight in Cobra.

BTW, I hated The Hunted--I thought it was a terrible movie from beginning to end.

Allen.
 
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