What's your latest Schrade? START DATE 8/12

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Yes? :)

More mulling, more discussing, particularly with a cutler, and I am starting more and more to think this is a repair job. So I enlarged two of the pictures and what I took to be burn damage was.... well...

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So my excitement was for nothing. With Eric's patient help I see that what I have here is a sloppy repair for the price of a bag of dog food. And a knife that I can beat like a rented mule if I so choose. Or knock back apart, reach into my bag of tricks and try my hand at re-fubaring a knife! :D

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Hmmm... I wonder if they made a four bladed 897UH muskrat! :p
 
As I said before "checking the thickness of the bolsters" that may have pointed to a quick repair.
The S-card shows Cumillus did make a 897. However, they used the S.C.C stamp... Ken
 
Oh well, sometimes we get the Baer... er... bear and sometimes the bear gets us.

ETA- I don't have a caliper to check the thickness. But I am pretty certain now that it is a mashup repair. Oh... and the 899's I see have the same c=faux jigged bone covers as one of my alternate cover 897UH previously shown.
 
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Codger_64 said:
Oh well, sometimes we get the Baer... er... bear and sometimes the bear gets us.

ETA- I don't have a caliper to check the thickness. But I am pretty certain now that it is a mashup repair. Oh... and the 899's I see have the same c=faux jigged bone covers as one of my alternate cover 897UH previously shown.
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Codger, you do not need a caliper to check the thickness - The Cumillus bolsters are about half the thicknes of the Schrade bolsters.
Keep doing what you do, I would like to know more about these things that take up all out time and money..Ken
 
Codger_64 said:
Oh well, sometimes we get the Baer... er... bear and sometimes the bear gets us.

ETA- I don't have a caliper to check the thickness. But I am pretty certain now that it is a mashup repair. Oh... and the 899's I see have the same c=faux jigged bone covers as one of my alternate cover 897UH previously shown.
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Well Codger, I was excited at the beginning of your thread too.
Imagine a Camillus made 897!!!
My first doubt was the Schrade + on the tang
I am in agreement that a so called knife mechanic had a hand in it
Thanks for sharing the find anyway

BTW I forget his name, but there is a fellow that converts the swinden pin to a through booster pin very well, like it was born that way
I think that's how he fixes the annoying "wobble" some Schrades can develop
I found his video on AAPK a while back

Edit The name is muskrat man !
 
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I agree Michael, a botched attempt at spinning the center pin.
It appears the spinner walked on the pin and the guy didn’t catch it in time, thus the crescent shaped mark on the pin.

It may be time for you to start working on knives Michael.
It is even more addicting than just collecting them!! :)
 
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I agree Michael, a botched attempt at spinning the center pin.
It appears the spinner walked on the pin and the guy didn’t catch it in time, thus the crescent shaped mark on the pin.

It may be time for you to start working on knives Michael.
It is even more addicting than just collecting them!! :)
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Dale! Where you been hideing man! :D Pffft. Just what I need, another whole genre of tools and another hobby. Maybe I should just send you a "kit" and let you build me that four blade 897UH muskrat! :p

Nope, I still have a hunch that at some time they did make the pattern for Schrade. I know they made the sfo variants of it because I have copies of some of the s-cards. I'm going to keep watching though. Mama said, "Schrades are like a great big box of chocolates...".
 
I don't think the world is ready for a 4-bladed muskrat, but a 4-bladed trapper . . . . Unfortunately, I think a couple of trappers would have to be sacrificed for the spey blades.
 
As Eric pointed out, and was very apparent when I received the knife, it was a reblade. Both the spey and sheepfoot were so new they hadn't even been sharpened. Like I said, a lot of work, shabby or not, went into the reblade. I did contact the seller to let him know that I was disappointed. He said that he did not know who did the work. But I left him positive feedback anyway. It was my own fault for not looking closer before buying. Maybe it is worth the sum of the good parts it contains. A Camillus 897UH? I shall endevor to persevere. (Lone Wati). :D

Hmmmmm...

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OK, time to break the ice. I know, took long enough! I was big into 897UH's (and others) a while back, a couple of years after the closing, and have been out of my knife hobby for a while, but have rekindled the passion of late. Not exactly my latest, I am buying more lately, but over five years ago I got an 897 UH that Codger may want to see. I'll have to open some boxes to get a photo, but it is a Ducks Unlimited special edition knife. What makes it special, I think, is that contrary to what I read in Codger's 897UH "manifesto", it is NOT just a blade etch. In fact, the blades are unmarked, mirror polished, with absolutely perfect fit and function. It has the custom shop grooved bolsters, and smooth hardwood scales, with a DU medallion in place of the Schrade shield.

Anyone else ever see this variation on the 897UH DU knife?

I also landed a 95th aniversary 897UH around the same time, which I think is a second, as it has no shield, or any of the "go-with's". There was chipping on one of the bone scales, which I repaired rather nicely, but must have not passed muster to go "under the jar".
 
Thanks Codger, I kind of bounce around several hobbies for years at a time. No lurking this time!

OK, got the culprits located, get ready for some dodgy photography. Now I am not sure if the "duck" knife is actually a DU limited edition, or just a knife for duck enthusiasts. It does not actually have the DU name on it, as I thought I remembered (lots of things like that these days). Also forgot about the silver bolsters on the 95th, got black on my fingers!

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I also just picked up a blue picked bone "LTD" knife. No shield, but also no sign of anything that would make it a "second", looks like new, although not fully polished blades on that one, just buffed grind marks. Has the grooved bolsters. Did those come w/o shields?
 
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I also just picked up a blue picked bone "LTD" knife. No shield, but also no sign of anything that would make it a "second", looks like new, although not fully polished blades on that one, just buffed grind marks. Has the grooved bolsters. Did those come w/o shields?
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Hi Hondo, your blue picked bone "LTD" knife is an unfinished knife from a set Schrade made about 2002-03.
This is my set, I have been looking for the flag to compleat the Display. I also have another set of finished knif without the Display.
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There were wood handled DU knives and also Federal Duck Stamp issues. Yours has the Duck Stamp shield. The domes with stands are still available if you want one.
 
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koldgold, cool, so knives without shield and blade etch are just "unfinished". Seems my knife has a bit different pick pattern, more dense than your set:

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Codger, thanks, so now I know it is a "Federal Duck Stamp" model. I sure would like the display for the 95th, despite the lack of shield, depending on how much they fetch. The "flaw" in mine was not bad, and my repair, a fill with model grade CA glue and a re-polish, was nearly undetectable. Do they show up on the 'Bay?
 
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koldgold, cool, so knives without shield and blade etch are just "unfinished". Seems my knife has a bit different pick pattern, more dense than your set:QUOTE]

I have just looked at the two blue set and a brown set I have, made about the same time.
Each scale/handle is different, even on the back side.
Some handles looks to have been placed differently before drilling the revert holes.
Can you comment on that Codger?
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koldgold said:
Hondo_62 said:
koldgold, cool, so knives without shield and blade etch are just "unfinished". Seems my knife has a bit different pick pattern, more dense than your set:QUOTE]

I have just looked at the two blue set and a brown set I have, made about the same time.
Each scale/handle is different, even on the back side.
Some handles looks to have been placed differently before drilling the revert holes.
Can you comment on that Codger?
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Oh I can comment but I am not certaim how pertainent it will be. I never worked there. I am not privy to the production problems specific to the last few years. However, to my knowledge, they never produced the bone covers inhouse. They shopped them out. Sometimes to Boker Germany, maybe to Culpepper here. Almost always there were problems with dye matches, jigging matches and hidden cracks etc. All of the usual problems that led almost all of the cutleries to go to Delrin in the first place. Maybe Eric, once again, can shed some light on these issues in the latter day knives.
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Actually, after thinking about it, the best way to understand a lot of the variance, besides unfinished and post-production finished pieces, is to understand the processes themselves. The best recent illustration I have seen was of the operations at Great Eastern Cutlery where they walk you through the whole production of a knife. Realize that every cutlery has slightly different construction and processes, but this will give you a good overview. It is a three part series but, IMHO, worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeHWa5jyO74
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA-OpahW7EA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPzgOs6JEyg

By the way I am told that GEC produces their bone covers inhouse now, cutting, jigging and dyeing.
 
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