What's your latest Schrade? START DATE 8/12

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I got a new branch in the 855 pattern family tree I'm collecting. An Imperial Diamond Edge 383. Seems to be a well built knife with a nice finish on it. Kind of an odd grind on the blades. I kinda like it, but I haven't tried to sharpen one either...

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When a good opportunity arises to wade into scout/camp/utility/military knife collecting I take advantage of it. I just got this Ulster Army Engineers knife yesterday. MAN! They put strong springs on these things! I can barely open it even after working some oil into the joints. It dates from 1944 and up when they started using the safety can opener. It's the nicest one I've ever seen. But I don't get out much....

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That stamp pre-dates the Baer acquisition of Ulster. So if it was made in the time-frame which you suggest, perhaps they used a blade stamped before the acquisition (?). Otherwise, it was made a little earlier than your estimate. Nice knife!

Thanks. I'm getting that '44 date for the safety can opener from a forum poster who claimed he got it from a knife book. I didn't know the timeline of the tang stamp. I had been guessing that it was a stamp used by Baer for a short time after acquistion and before the USA showed up on the tang. I have no idea how long Ulster made this knife with it's blade configuration and placement, nor do I know if Ulster was responsible for the Engineers knives that were only marked 'MADE IN USA' or 'USA'. Guessing about those ranges from Camillus to Imperial to Ulster to Western and maybe others. I do know that Ulster's involvement with these knives pre-dates the safety can opener and that's about it.

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Thanks. I'm getting that '44 date for the safety can opener from a forum poster who claimed he got it from a knife book. I didn't know the timeline of the tang stamp. I had been guessing that it was a stamp used by Baer for a short time after acquistion and before the USA showed up on the tang. I have no idea how long Ulster made this knife with it's blade configuration and placement, nor do I know if Ulster was responsible for the Engineers knives that were only marked 'MADE IN USA' or 'USA'. Guessing about those ranges from Camillus to Imperial to Ulster to Western and maybe others. I do know that Ulster's involvement with these knives pre-dates the safety can opener and that's about it.
Definitely a nice knife! You have one main blade, one cap lifter/screw driver combo, a leather awl, and a can opener. What more did you need back then? :cool:
I don't profess to be an expert of any kind, but that style can opener seems mighty old. ;)
 
Yea, I just added this Keen Kutter K1869 to my little drop point stockman 855 collection.

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I do tend to shy away from the incredible shrinking handles. The Schrade Waldens are nice, but condition and price is the fine line I walk. So far, I only collect pictures of the old celluoid ones, and the condition of those is not too good. This one has more molasses than butter, which I like too. Now to get one of these with the thumbnail cutout on the handle.............

Here are a couple of the Butter & Molasses cell handled Schrade Walden NY stamped pocket knives from the late 40's or early 50's that have survived the test of time so far. When these were a Cut Co pattern, Schrade Cut Co marketed them as Brown & Cream Pyralin, then Schrade Walden called them K-Horn.

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Very different cuts of the cell pattern on first glance.

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Similar though, if you compare the backs and fronts. This older cell shows several distinct colors.

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This is a fairly uncommon 898 pattern, much like the 899 with a spey and punch blade. Very slim profile. A more common 896K would be the blade combination of turkish clip, with sheepsfoot and spey. 3 9/16" closed. Stamped 898 on back of tang. One blade stamped.

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The 234K. No cutout for the pen blade. 3 5/16" closed. One blade stamped, no stamp on back.
 
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I have read that "not all cell was unstable" but the problem is you cannot tell which is stable. The examples Hal shows are at least 50 years old, so these are likely to remain stable.
My understanding is that in the manufacturing of celluloid exact formulas had to be followed. A sloppy batch became the less stable celluloid. Maybe the yellow cell was the hardest to get right ?
If there is another explanation i would like to hear it.
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Wanna get that sick feeling in the pit of your stomach? Check out this completed listing from ebay this month that sold for a paultry $30. Listed as "Schrade Walden NY USA Knife". Or did you get this one too? A little tarnish remover and that one would look almost new!

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Saddlebum, I got that one seller had a buy it now of $30 and a reserve of $28. Pulled the trigger. It is nice, I'll post it when i get it cleaned. Rtmind
 
Saddlebum, I got that one seller had a buy it now of $30 and a reserve of $28. Pulled the trigger. It is nice, I'll post it when i get it cleaned. Rtmind

Oh yeah! Give us a look when you get it cleaned up a little. It's a nice one for a real nice price! Good for you!
 
Saddlebum, I got that one seller had a buy it now of $30 and a reserve of $28. Pulled the trigger. It is nice, I'll post it when i get it cleaned. Rtmind

Interested in how that 898 is marked on the front of the blade. Nice pickup. Mine has been cleaned up. It must have had some carbon staining at one time.
 
Saddlebum & thawk, pics as requested. cleaned up nicely. really happy.
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I'm waiting for this one to come in the mail. It's a restoration project for me to see how well I can clean up the blades. I like these knives. Now if USPS can find my house. In following the tracking I see it has taken 5 days to get from southern California to Michigan. Only problem with that is, I live in Wyoming. USPS overshot my address by 1,400 miles. Now, I assume, it is on it's way back to Wyoming. They once sent me another knife from Ca. to Wy. via Maryland. An inefficient government run operation, to say the least.

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