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When and why would you need a folder bigger than a Rat-2 ?

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What's macho about "because that's what I prefer"? There is definitely a need for larger knives at times. I generally simply don't want to carry them. I consider my choice in size to be "medium" sized and very functional. Of course, a larger knife could handle most of the tasks I do with a knife day to day with minor exceptions.

I do often carry a peanut traditional in my watch pocket which I consider small. But they are pretty strong. You just can't give them a power grip like you can a larger handled knife. Definitely a place for larger knives and it's a matter of preference if you choose to carry a larger blade day to day.
 
Hmmmmm

Well, I guess all the meals I cook every week, from fresh ingredients, could be achieved with a small pairing knife. Technically I don't need even a chef's utility knife, let alone a 10" chef knife.

No, actually, I think in any reasonable terms I do 'need' the larger knives, because otherwise it would be far more time consuming, irritating and inefficient. We don't need much of anything the modern world offers, in the most absolute sense of the word. However, semantics aside, let's just go with what most if not all of us define as 'need' in the context of knives and other flummery.

^^^ File that under labor saving devices.

Many wrote about handle size for extended periods of work. That is legit.

It's why I make a distinction between urban and rural or occupational EDC. Walking around the city I'm unlikely to need a big folder. At work I would. And I'd rather have a large folder in my pocket walking our property. All while wearing my Filson Double Tins, Le Chameau wellies and ... all the other gear that makes my life more comfortable, not intentionally challenging.
 
^^^ File that under labor saving devices.

Many wrote about handle size for extended periods of work. That is legit.

It's why I make a distinction between urban and rural or occupational EDC. Walking around the city I'm unlikely to need a big folder. At work I would. And I'd rather have a large folder in my pocket walking our property. All while wearing my Filson Double Tins, Le Chameau wellies and ... all the other gear that makes my life more comfortable, not intentionally challenging.
Nope, my mind is made up. I am off to the woods wearing nothing but my reindeer skin and equipped with a small piece of knapped flint. That's all I need.
 
So because the knife is smaller it must pry and not cut? I haven't thought of it like that
How much more under the 1500 lb will a large knife reach 1" 1.5"?
Might the steer be upset because he was nicked with a knife?
Nope you would be wrong, head out to check fence a couple miles away from home and workshop on horseback. If you find something that has to be fixed and you don't happen to have a pry bar with you, you use what you have. Nope the steer is upset because hes a pissed off animal with netting around his leg and your welcome to get as close as you want, i however would prefer not getting stomped. So extra reach is a good thing.
 
I think you didn’t like my summary of this thread. However, many others seem to see the same phenomenon. You’ve been given plenty of solid reasons that other people, who lead different lives from the one you do, favour larger folders, so the case has been proved beyond any sensible objection.

Yes and ? Did I dismiss people inputs ? You're imagining thing to justify your weird crusade. If I'm wrong, feel free to quote me.

Like I said earlier, there's dozen of solid and valid inputs in this thread. There's that and there's the people who felt personally insulted that I've dared to ask a single question about people usage and habits. That's beyond ridiculous and a common phenomenon on board, there's always those weird frustrated people that feel the need to be outraged at everything. Nobody's after your big folders lad, don't worry.
 
Oh, I have all sorts of folders. Some are really quite small. It’s not always necessary or desirable to carry anything more. Your premise is flawed, you have made various, erroneous assumptions and gross generalisations. But carry on digging by all means. I’ll see you in another thread, perhaps.
 
Oh, I have all sorts of folders. Some are really quite small. It’s not always necessary or desirable to carry anything more. Your premise is flawed, you have made various, erroneous assumptions and gross generalisations. But carry on digging by all means. I’ll see you in another thread, perhaps.

So you can't quote me dismissing people inputs and can't back up your previous claim.
 
I suspect obsidian (volcanic glass) does have a better edge if it's new. But who really cares? Chapp, cool it. This is a friendly place.

When do you need a folder bigger than the RAT-2? Whenever you feel like carrying one. Need is relative and task specific in terms of knife size.
 
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3 inches sux. Something like benchmade Bugout 3.24 and you start being able to cut a burger in half more or less comfortably.

What knife you think this is? Look how tiny this Military looks ... I wear medium gloves.
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I don't like food getting into my pivot on folding knives, so longer blade keeps it away.
I do use a delica alot but the question was why would I want more. Some I guess got hung up on the needy part and took it literally.
That's that adequate reaction that is scarce in the world.
 
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I with the crowd that thinks we are over-thinking this. To put things is perspective, I dress for the occasion as in, I where dockers, a dress shirt and loafers to work but I don't wear them camping or woods walking. My EDC rotation consists of a Case medium Stockman, a Large Trapper, a Schrade 30OT, a Buck 303, a Buck 503 , a Victorinox Spartan and a Gerber LST and sometimes a Case Peanut. When I'm camping or fishing or just woods walking a Buck 112 or 110 is on my belt and a fixed blade id in my pack. No one knife does everything well. In my life I have worked in construction, maintenance and and 30 years as an LEO and my most carried knife has bee a Case 6318 Medium Stockman.
 
So you can't quote me dismissing people inputs and can't back up your previous claim.
Disdain is emotionally driven. You haven’t provoked it, this is a knife forum. I responded to the content of your posts, as is correct on this forum, not to you personally. None of us know who you are, we can only judge the content of what you write. If you read through your own thread, you will find that your content is generally dismissed as facile.
 
The fact is, this is just another Ford vs Chevy argument by a bunch of knife nuts/fan boys/object cult worship people. Is there a reason for anything that is mostly personal preference?

Think about this; all you knife nuts on this forum are less than 1% of the population. We're the freaks that non knife people think are nuts. Heck, most people in modern suburban America and most other developed placed don't even carry a knife at all. Yet the sidewalks are not littered with the bodies of those that perished for want of a knife.

Any little bit of sharp steel/bronze/flint will get the job done with a little bit of thought. And the worlds most popular selling knife by both production numbers and international sales is the little Victoriox Classic. Look at most construction sites and the most popular knife you will see is some variant of the old Stanley 99 utility knife with all of a one inch blade. When our water heater took a crap, the plumber unboxed a brand new one from it's double wall cardboard container with a little folding Husky brand utility knife.

Knives are just like cars; people use what gives them pleasure. Most of the world commutes to work in Honda Civics, Toyota Corolla's, and Hyundai Eleantras. They get there with a decent amount of comfort and reliability. But the car nut has to have his Porsche or 'vette, or a Dodge Hemi charger. It makes him happy.

For many years I carried a little Case peanut as my sole pocketknife. No, that's not true, I had a Victorinox classic on my keyring. Somehow I did my job as a machinist, retired and spent a lot more time fishing, camping, and woods walking with my better half of over 40 years. Somehow, we survived. I even managed to cut Karens sandwich inhalf with a knife that wasn't more than half the length of her sandwich's thickness. I just had her turn it over, and I cut through the half from the bottom, then flipped it right side up and slice along the same line from the top. Result was a very large burger sliced neatly in half for her convenience.

I once watched a friend and co-worker field dress a very nice opening day buck with his well worn Buck 303 cadet. He did just fine, as he knew what he was dong.

Carry what you like, and don't try to makeup excuses why you carry it. Going about the normal business of life I don't think many are encountering hostile water melons or cantaloupes or hostile Apaches. A two inch blade is fine for most things you will have to deal with in an urban/suburban environment, and if you are a rancher or farmer then carry what you need for your job. Or carry what you personally like. I personally like to save pocket space so I carry a small pocket knife in the coin pocket of my jeans. A Buck cadet, Victorinox executive, Boker 240 pean knife, Buck 309 companion. With wallet, cell phone, keys, Fenix flashlight, and small handgun, my pockets are getting a bit loaded, so saving a bit of space is a good thing for me. I find in my life as a retired gentleman of leisure that does a lot of fishing, a small pocket knife gets me by.

I think for me the big turning point was at Mesa Verde National Park in 1997. A park ranger was giving a lecture and demonstration in primitive technologies, and he had a rear haunch of a road killed deer. He had a large flint chunk and he used a stick to strike a flat of it off. It was a slender finger length flake of flint. He then proceeded to skin the haunch of deer or antelope whatever it was, and the hide just peeled back. Then he sliced the meat into thin slices for drying. He used that flint flake in an over lapping feathery stroking and it made fast work of that raw meat like a very sharp knife would do. That little finger size flint did the job of a regular hunting knife.

It's all needs vs wants. Knife nuts, car nuts, gun nuts, all get more than they need because they want it. That's okay, just don't confuse the two.
 
Watched a Flintstones episode when I was a kid. They were staying in a haunted mansion. To make the theme seem like one of the staff was the killer of the mansions owner, they all had bladed tools. The gardener had a huge set of hedge clippers but the chef and the butler both pulled out these huge folders when they were being introduced. Everytime I see an over the top folder it reminds me of that episode.
 
Watched a Flintstones episode when I was a kid. They were staying in a haunted mansion. To make the theme seem like one of the staff was the killer of the mansions owner, they all had bladed tools. The gardener had a huge set of hedge clippers but the chef and the butler both pulled out these huge folders when they were being introduced. Everytime I see an over the top folder it reminds me of that episode.
Yes, there are definitely over the top folders and they are great fun in their own right. I’d argue that a 3-3.5” folder doesn’t automatically fit in that category, though. When I was growing up folders were invariably small and the handles were correspondingly irritating at times. Less so the actual blade length. Give me a comfortable handle every time, why make my own life sub-optimal? For what? Because of some tired notion of Freudian compensation? Sure, gralloch a deer with a bit of flint or a Case Peanut. Why not? But I’d argue that the smaller is better approach is just as questionable psychologically as the opposite. Just use the most sensible tool, or the one you like, and stop fussing about it. :)
 
I remember reading an article in a knife mag many years ago, I believe it was written by Ed Fowler. He mentioned when he was a young man, there was a popular trend among some hunters to try to field dress their kills with the smallest knife they could, like a little 2-bladed pen knife. I guess it was almost a 'macho' type thing for bragging rights of accomplishing the most with the smallest knife possible.

He said he had gone out hunting with only a little 2-bladed pen knife and bagged a bear. To make a long story short, he did end up field dressing it, but said it was an over long, difficult and miserable chore, with the larger blade breaking, and having to finish up with the smaller pen blade. He said, as he was finally driving (or being driven?) back home, he threw what was left of his broken pen knife out the window and abandoned the notion of field dressing such a large kill with a little pen knife.

The right tool for the job. Sometimes smaller knives are optimal, and sometimes larger knives offer advantages.

Jim
 
I remember reading an article in a knife mag many years ago, I believe it was written by Ed Fowler. He mentioned when he was a young man, there was a popular trend among some hunters to try to field dress their kills with the smallest knife they could, like a little 2-bladed pen knife. I guess it was almost a 'macho' type thing for bragging rights of accomplishing the most with the smallest knife possible.

He said he had gone out hunting with only a little 2-bladed pen knife and bagged a bear. To make a long story short, he did end up field dressing it, but said it was an over long, difficult and miserable chore, with the larger blade breaking, and having to finish up with the smaller pen blade. He said, as he was finally driving (or being driven?) back home, he threw what was left of his broken pen knife out the window and abandoned the notion of field dressing such a large kill with a little pen knife.

The right tool for the job. Sometimes smaller knives are optimal, and sometimes larger knives offer advantages.

Jim
This ^^^
 
The question has already been answered.
But I will confirm...

A longer blade does have some advantages when it comes to cutting some things...

Bagels
Grapefruit
Oranges
Apples
Melons
Bread
Etc..

And if it should come to self defense...
Yeah, a longer blade is usually better for reaching those vital organs to quickly end a hostile encounter.
 
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