When is an axe better than a gun for Home Defense?

Thorsmitersaw said:
why decide at all? hehehe

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I love your sense of humor, hehehe:D
 
The courts have a belife that cutting edges are nasty and brutal. (Off with his head) A high velocity projectile is humane and if delivered well painless.
 
If I didn't have guns or were not permitted to own them I would have a Louisville Slugger over a hatchet!!!!
I'd have my Slugger for main piece and my Norland Voyager as "backup"
Maybe with a nail in the end like that dude on Warriors................
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Interesting thread though I must admit...............
 
the main problem with a firearm is a failure to hit the intended target. This presents the greatest problem in high-density areas, especially if you have others living in your house or live in an apartment. You don't want to hit someone else by accident! There is some ammo that is made to stop when going through wood or drywall but still impacts soft targets well, but that's not 1005 reliable, for instance the projectiles will still be dealy when passing through windows. So in those instance a big knife, hatchet or bludgeon could be preferable - also easier to operate when you are foggy, like when suddenly woken up. I think I'd prefer a big knife over an axe or bludgeon b/c it's easier to manipulate effectively in a variety of situations.
 
while i am grabbing my smith & wesson before grabbing my vtac, one plus to having the vtac or cqc-t over a knife is the fact that you can swing it and it has a crushing effect when you hit whoever you are swinging it at... i can only imagine the carnage of one of these weapons hitting another human being in the skull.... whew
 
If you are allowed to own a gun......Then never, ever, ever, is a hatchet preferable. I don't care where you live, or who lives with you. Now, if you watch too many movies like "The Hunted" or too much Anime, and you really think you are that good, then go ahead; the gene pool will probably be better off.

If that's all you have, then you need to make do, but if you can have a gun, you are a moron for using a hatchet.
 
chromechicken said:
If you are allowed to own a gun......Then never, ever, ever, is a hatchet preferable. I don't care where you live, or who lives with you. Now, if you watch too many movies like "The Hunted" or too much Anime, and you really think you are that good, then go ahead; the gene pool will probably be better off.

If that's all you have, then you need to make do, but if you can have a gun, you are a moron for using a hatchet.
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precisely stated:thumbup: i am still trying to figure out why people keep adding things to this thread... i think we all agree on the general consensus that axe when guns are available is a BAAAADDDD decision. but "the hunted" is a good movie. ;)
 
In answer to the original question---NEVER!!!!!!!

The firearm's main advantage is that you can keep your distance from an attacker----minimizing any harm to you.
 
ilbruche said:
Your home invader breaks down into (approximately) 3 different types of people.

People who are not armed and are trying to use stealth to steal your stuff. This could be teenagers or professional cat burgalurs.

People who are more threatening than dangerous. First time theives, crackheads and the like.

Professional thieves and kidnappers and people who could kill you.

Fortunately the first type is most common and the last is extremely rare.
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I stay in South Africa and unfortunately the last is the most common, even in the middle of the day when you're having a braai (barbeque). And they will most likely kill you. And if you shoot/maim/etc the baddie, you might get into trouble with the law, but that probably isn't high on your priotities, if the alternative is seeing your daughter raped, then killed.

Letting them know you mean business may be a good way to deal with them. I'd recommend a gun or shotgun in the hands of as many people there as possible, if not, then a axe will do in the hands of those that don't carry a gun.
 
Old Geezer said:
"If you are a "prohibited person" (felon, alien, history of mental illness or drug abuse, etc.) who is barred from lawful firearm ownership"

Not to hijack the thread or go off on a tangent, but I have wondered about this for a while and never researched it, so I'll ask; if a person is a convicted felon and not able to own/possess or otherwise be around a gun, wouldn't they also be prohibited from having anything that could be construed as a weapon, like say a hawk?
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It's a camping tool. Like a kitchen knife is made for use in a kitchen.

Either can be pressed into service, like a claw hammer, a screwdriver, barstool/ kitchen chair or a Swingline stapler.
 
Guns have limited bullets and is this is critical point when dealing with more people than ur bullets (that said when do u actually battle so many at a time?).

Two hawks, one in each hand, will tackle many people. With "training" can even handle them when they are with weapon too (except guns of course) long when u run out of bullets.

Ultimately, if said assailant (s) are armed with guns then best is having a bigger gun. Ur hawks vs. guns then in addition u need much prayer + luck against guns. Maybe u need a will.
 
Some of you have said it well already, but I'll say it again...

A WISE homeowner/renter gives themselves MULTIPLE option, not just one...

In various locations around my home I have a pump-action 8-shot 12 gauge shotgun (and it has BUCKSHOT in it, not #9, which works well on doves!!!), a Glock 17 (Winchester Ranger ammo), a S&W 3" M&P Model 64, several knives (Glock Field knife, Krag bayonet, WWI 'Trench Knife', etc.), an ATC VTAC, a 'Cold Steel' Vietnam Tomahawk, and 'Cold Steel' African Walking Stick and City Stick, baseball bats, etc. etc...

I also have an alarm system, 2 Shetland Sheepdogs (inside at night), good outdoor lighting, good doors/locks, a family that is AWARE, and GOD!!!

I will use what I have to, depending on the situation, and what is near to me at the time...

Don't limit yourselves!!!
(Read my profile)
 
Tomahawks can be the best choice in confined areas indoors... like hallways. If there are multiple opponents, your 1st shots with a firearm might affect your hearing from that point on... and you might really need it...

That said, I would prefer the shotgun 1st (it is loaded), Glock 2nd (also loaded), and the 'Cold Steel' Vietnam Tomahawk 3rd (it is hanging on the wall nearby, without the sheath...
 
You do what is right by your family. 'They' break-in and pose a risk to you and your family and may destroy all you worked hard for... I say the world is a better place without scum like that so blast away.

If i'm not so worried about damaging my house (or if guns were legal in Malaysia) I would go for holding two uzis with two glocks in side holsters and a Busse Megalodon battle axe for dessert. With the full wrath I will empty my clips and make sure to set an example for any scum who dares to harm others. Work for a F#%king living. God gave them equal chances and everyone has 24hrs in a day so what's the problem?

Seriously I do not like the idea of taking a life. Any ideas on 100% workable take-downs which are not lethal yet pose no risk to me or my family???
 
If less than lethal is a concern,

Pepper spray/gel would be a poor choice indoors, sometimes not quick/effective/fast enough...
Anything sharp will require enough blood loss that to disable effectively would likely kill, too (and if you hit the skull with a tomahawk, this will likely be fatal of course, too)...
So a blunt object is the last option... but to disable quick with this, your likely target will be the skull... hit it hard enough to stop them quick, death is likely...

Unless you could use a TASER (not good for multiple opponents), killing can happen to the criminal...

If you can use a gun effectively/legally...
Get a 12 gauge!!!

No gun?
Baseball bat, tomahawk or whatever else you can find...
 
I like the idea of multiple 'tools' for self defense/offense in multiple locations...
This makes you able to counter multiple types of threats...
 
Someone told me to put CCTV in various locations in your house. Once you are sure it is a break-in and not a drunken relative trying to creep back home then you ready the knock-out gas. The knock out gas is triggered by remote control from your fortified bedroom. After triggering it then after 5 minutes you remote control activate your air-cond or window opener to dissipate the gas. I said to the fella you get me the knock out gas and i'll do the electrical wiring DIY stylee...

Also riot bean bag blaster/gun/cannon with multiple ammo together with bullet proof riot shield should cover the defense and offense. If that doesn't work then blast or hack away till they pose no threat since you have exhausted all your non-lethal options.
 
Sometimes i'm too much of a goody two shoes for me own good...

A mildly psychopathic one but a nice guy nonetheless...

Sometimes I think noone (especially the burglers I put to jail non-lethal style) will thank me for not killing scum...

Perhaps a change of principals are in order? Maybe to test the waters for a short while. Gonna be hell trying to convince the missus, she gonna be the one mopping out the blood from the carpet.
 
Old Geezer said:
"If you are a "prohibited person" (felon, alien, history of mental illness or drug abuse, etc.) who is barred from lawful firearm ownership"

Not to hijack the thread or go off on a tangent, but I have wondered about this for a while and never researched it, so I'll ask; if a person is a convicted felon and not able to own/possess or otherwise be around a gun, wouldn't they also be prohibited from having anything that could be construed as a weapon, like say a hawk?
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No. Anyone of legal age can buy a bladed weapon.

The law against former felons having a firearm is not to protect anyone, but to disarm the populace. All they have to do is expand the prohibited list just a bit more, and noone in the US will be allowed firearms, except the elite few who pull the strings. All you have to do is change the definition of 'criminal', or prohibited person. Congress just passed a law that put thousands of us Veterans on the 'prohibited' list, due to possible Delayed Stress Syndrome.

Semper Fi!
 
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