Don't know about you guys, but I always believed that if it's your time to go, it's time for you to go. Y2K or no Y2K is not a big issue, maybe something happen, then it's time for a lot of people to go, maybe nothing happen, then it's not time for eveybody to go. Reasonable planning make sense(i.e. bottle water, some canned food, etc.. things you can actually use even nothing happened), just don't over do it!! One can have everything planned out for Y2K, but could be in an accident tomorrow and die!! Just my two cents worth of opinion!!
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The only thing I'm worried about is that - even without any Y2K bugs - riots will break out. Look at the Rodney King riot, for example. Criminals just used it as an excuse to loot and cause mayhem. I bet we see LA in flames again, and maybe a lot of other cities.
I recieved this email tonight from what i consider a good source in California. This is the message: "I received information today on FDIC330-5. This has been confirmed via telephone with the FDIC. As reported on Gary Norths Web Site,your bank statement means nothing. In the event of data loss or bank failure,only the banks records have legal authority with regards to insured deposits. i have also learned that banks have been told to prepare for an extended period of closure. Also there are about 5000 British troops currently at Nellis AFB. More are scheduled to arrive. They are here to assist with gun confiscation in the LA area. God forbid should this come to pass. Please note that this information is not from questionable internet or shortwave radio sources. It comes form one of the very few people on the planet that I would trust with my family and all my wordly possessions." I have been following alot of things and this info tonight has me more than a little concerned. Y2k definetly ties in with the bank closings and gun confiscation is scheduled to take place in Kalifornia in January when the SKs and all other semi autos with extended clips must be turned in.
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What is with this hoopla over foreign troops? There's always foreign troops on US soil for one reason or another. We have 35,000 troops in Korea, you don't see them worrying about a take over.
We are a superpower, people send their troops over here to train. And we also send our boys over yonder. Nothing new under the sun.
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We are a superpower, people send their troops over here to train. And we also send our boys over yonder. Nothing new under the sun.
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The world is NOT going to end. That's not scheduled for a good long time yet. Things in the world as we know it ARE going to change, however. Just look at the way things are going on this planet.
I'm not going to go over it again,(see my post above) but major change on a global level is in the air. May not happen for 3 weeks or 30 years, but the winds of change are a blowin' my friend, in many ways.
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The world is NOT going to end. That's not scheduled for a good long time yet. Things in the world as we know it ARE going to change, however. Just look at the way things are going on this planet.
I'm not going to go over it again,(see my post above) but major change on a global level is in the air. May not happen for 3 weeks or 30 years, but the winds of change are a blowin' my friend, in many ways.
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Does anyone hear the theme from the Twilight Zone playing?
do-do do-do do-do do-do
Food will not spoil. Water will not turn rancid. The air will not turn sour. Even if a hydro plant that is computer controlled had a date problem, do you know what you do? You manually reset the date. Does the turbine equipment care if the computer system running it thinks it is 1978? No. And that is just one example; it applies across the board. The only problem I see is the doom sayers running around creating havoc to support their self-induced prophecies. I have yet to meet a Y2K end-of-the-worlder who is computer smart or in the industry. My company provides Y2K solutions. Procrastination is the biggest crime I see. People, businesses, and the government didn't plan and now we are doing last minute fixes. Once 2000 hits, whatever glitchy things happen will be fixed by the smart people. Of course, the is just my educated opinion. Take it for what it is worth.
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do-do do-do do-do do-do
Food will not spoil. Water will not turn rancid. The air will not turn sour. Even if a hydro plant that is computer controlled had a date problem, do you know what you do? You manually reset the date. Does the turbine equipment care if the computer system running it thinks it is 1978? No. And that is just one example; it applies across the board. The only problem I see is the doom sayers running around creating havoc to support their self-induced prophecies. I have yet to meet a Y2K end-of-the-worlder who is computer smart or in the industry. My company provides Y2K solutions. Procrastination is the biggest crime I see. People, businesses, and the government didn't plan and now we are doing last minute fixes. Once 2000 hits, whatever glitchy things happen will be fixed by the smart people. Of course, the is just my educated opinion. Take it for what it is worth.
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Hoo boy, things are heating up! Well, since I asked the question, here's MY two cents. There will be noticable problems. How people react to these problems will determine the course of events that follow. Human behavior being what it is (idiotic and unpredictable) only a fool would not prepare himself and his family for power outage, food and water shortage, and financial difficulties. Now, if you want to add 1000 rounds of .223, I won't call you names. And if you want to trade me your Sebenza for my water purifier, please e-mail me. -Paul
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There's only one truth in this world; that this too shall pass.
Things have always been changing. It's been doing that since time began. Y2K won't even make top 100 important events this millenium. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Things have always been changing. It's been doing that since time began. Y2K won't even make top 100 important events this millenium. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I am thinking you guys will always have the crash of the global economy, or a Gore/Bradley presidency, or the environmental calamity as large scale disasters to look forward to with all of the gear you can muster. One of them is avoidable at the ballot box next fall. REGISTER TO VOTE!
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As an addendum to this thread, here in Florida I heard on the news that our computer driven Driver's License Beureau had a bit of a Y2K related computer crash yesterday causing a lot of angry people to miss out on getting those DL's renewed and/or reinstated & so on.
Sounds petty, but it's already started kids (insert theme from the Twilight Zone here).
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Sounds petty, but it's already started kids (insert theme from the Twilight Zone here).
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I received another update on the British troops at Nellis AFB and i was told that the information was checked out through military sources and is true(Brits to help in gun confiscation in LA area) Another bit of info is that gold will bottom out at $235.00. The insiders have set the bootom at $235.00 if it is necessary to keep the stock market BUBBLE going. I was told some big heavies are involved in trying to keep the ponzi scheme market going by keeping gold way low. George Bush is involved in this insider scaming. My opinion, but watch that market as the big boys get ready to dump it eventually like in 1929. I am going to take seriously this info I get . People that dont prepare will be caught as they were in 1929. Yes something big "is in the wind"
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Anyone care for a little wager that there won't be a hostile take over of the US government come Y2K?
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I won't take that bet Tallwingedgoat, but I will say the stock market is WAY scary in that stock prices are really overpriced right now, commanding prices way beyond their actual worth. Kinda like a big ol' bubble getting ready to pop. Come to think of it, I think I read somewhere that this was the same scenario in 1929 before the bottom fell out. Sure hope I'm wrong about that!
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If a country gets take nover, we won't be it. As of right now, Russia, France, and China are really behind. A lot of countries are. Maybe 12-15% of the world is somewhat ready. Think of it this way....
DAngelo's, a local sub shop in various parts of the US, their comps aren't complinat (at least not now, and doubt they will be, they use old junker systems). They can't do business effectivly, fire some poeple due to lack of money. Those people, having no money, can't buy some things they like, such as knives. Knife companies aren't making any money, they fire some people...
See how it goes? chain reaction. You have to look at the whole picture, don't think 2 dimensional, look at the whole picture. And don't tell me that can't happen, because it sure as hell can.
I'd urge people to get some supplies, extra batterries, lightsticks, KNIVES, etc... A lot of people up here are into that kind of stuff, being into knives and all, so I like to think all the people I know on the Bladeforums have the knowledge and common sense to at least prepare. A recession is not out of the question, not even remotely. No, I don't know for a fact what will happen, but I'd rather prepare and have extra chocolate, coffee, toilet paper (3 good barter items should society be without for a little while) than not enough. I think everyone would agree.
Cheaperthandirt.com - good magazine and site to find some supplies you might want. I'm hardly a person who fears anything, but this has me paying attention at least. ..
DAngelo's, a local sub shop in various parts of the US, their comps aren't complinat (at least not now, and doubt they will be, they use old junker systems). They can't do business effectivly, fire some poeple due to lack of money. Those people, having no money, can't buy some things they like, such as knives. Knife companies aren't making any money, they fire some people...
See how it goes? chain reaction. You have to look at the whole picture, don't think 2 dimensional, look at the whole picture. And don't tell me that can't happen, because it sure as hell can.
I'd urge people to get some supplies, extra batterries, lightsticks, KNIVES, etc... A lot of people up here are into that kind of stuff, being into knives and all, so I like to think all the people I know on the Bladeforums have the knowledge and common sense to at least prepare. A recession is not out of the question, not even remotely. No, I don't know for a fact what will happen, but I'd rather prepare and have extra chocolate, coffee, toilet paper (3 good barter items should society be without for a little while) than not enough. I think everyone would agree.
Cheaperthandirt.com - good magazine and site to find some supplies you might want. I'm hardly a person who fears anything, but this has me paying attention at least. ..
I work in Telecommunications and Computer Security.
Will there be impacts from Y2K? Yes
Will the world end? No
There will probably be localized disruptions that will have approximately the same impact as a major storm.
There WILL BE large scale thefts by unscrupulous people hired to implement Y2K fixes that will probably go undetected or unreported. (Yes some crooks are going to get very rich and not get caught because businesses are already preparing to lose money to Y2K.)
What will the economic impacts of Y2K be? A lot of them have already occurred. Many businesses are spending huge amounts of money trying to deal with the fear of a problem.
Bottom line: The mass hysteria is much more dangerous than Y2K ever could be. If you want to protect your family get a grip and encourage those around you to do the same. Prepare for Y2K as you would for a major winter storm.
Will there be impacts from Y2K? Yes
Will the world end? No
There will probably be localized disruptions that will have approximately the same impact as a major storm.
There WILL BE large scale thefts by unscrupulous people hired to implement Y2K fixes that will probably go undetected or unreported. (Yes some crooks are going to get very rich and not get caught because businesses are already preparing to lose money to Y2K.)
What will the economic impacts of Y2K be? A lot of them have already occurred. Many businesses are spending huge amounts of money trying to deal with the fear of a problem.
Bottom line: The mass hysteria is much more dangerous than Y2K ever could be. If you want to protect your family get a grip and encourage those around you to do the same. Prepare for Y2K as you would for a major winter storm.
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As for China, they're still making the transition from an abacus and paper-trail system. And that's what they can easily fall back on. There are certain advantages in low-tech.
As for China, they're still making the transition from an abacus and paper-trail system. And that's what they can easily fall back on. There are certain advantages in low-tech.
Y2K involves the glitch factor and the human factor.
Overall, I think the general concensus on the glitch factor is that some impact will occur, but nothing we as a whole can't recover from and move on.
The human factor, however, is a bit trickier. Around here, the National guards will be put on stand-by and the local law enforcement will pull double shifts. That's good because all it needs for some of the criminal element to come out and party is a reason, real or imagined. Riots? If there's going to be one, and I doubt that, the chances of one around my parts is next to nil. So I'm not worried about that.
You know what worries me though? Remember that Japanese cult that spread some biological agent into the air in one of Japan's subway? Psychopaths armed with biological weapons worry me. And again, all they need is some sign that their spaceship will arrive the eve of 12-31-99 and it's time to spread some "fairy dust" to signal their mothership or something along those insane lines. All I am trying to say is, aside from basic self defense needs, don't forget to add a gas mask to your Y2K list. Then again, if my worst fears are realized, even gas masks won't help much. Oh well, something to chew on.
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Overall, I think the general concensus on the glitch factor is that some impact will occur, but nothing we as a whole can't recover from and move on.
The human factor, however, is a bit trickier. Around here, the National guards will be put on stand-by and the local law enforcement will pull double shifts. That's good because all it needs for some of the criminal element to come out and party is a reason, real or imagined. Riots? If there's going to be one, and I doubt that, the chances of one around my parts is next to nil. So I'm not worried about that.
You know what worries me though? Remember that Japanese cult that spread some biological agent into the air in one of Japan's subway? Psychopaths armed with biological weapons worry me. And again, all they need is some sign that their spaceship will arrive the eve of 12-31-99 and it's time to spread some "fairy dust" to signal their mothership or something along those insane lines. All I am trying to say is, aside from basic self defense needs, don't forget to add a gas mask to your Y2K list. Then again, if my worst fears are realized, even gas masks won't help much. Oh well, something to chew on.
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Yeah I read "Rainbow Six" too
All kidding aside. That does worry me more than anything else. Not neccessarily for Y2K, but a chem/bio attack will likely happen one day.
I had a doctor roomate once. His survival tip: don't go to the hospital, that's where all the sick people are.
All kidding aside. That does worry me more than anything else. Not neccessarily for Y2K, but a chem/bio attack will likely happen one day.
I had a doctor roomate once. His survival tip: don't go to the hospital, that's where all the sick people are.