Where to get multi-use + self defense knife?

The REKAT Carnavore would make a good choice, but I think the blade is only 3.5 inches long.

The Benchmade Axis Lock 710(or 710bt) has a traditional blade shape, with a stylish false edge. It is available in your choice of aluminum handles, or g-10 handles over 420ss skeletonized liners. Owning one, I'm of course a little biased
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. It feals great in the normal grip position, and pretty good in the saber grip, too. It can be opened AND closed easily with either hand, with the dual thumb studs and ambidextrous locking bar.

The Carnavore, however, is available in Talonite! If only I had the green...
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The 710 series is available in multiple handle types? I have the (I think) traditional version: Stainless liners and G10 scales. Truth be known, the liners are skeleton by nature (you can see if you peek inside the knife, I was checking to make sure there was no blade bumping in there), but with some nicely textured G10 on them. I have yet to see anyone carry or elude to any other kind of Axis-Lock besides the kind I have. Lil' help?

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Robert Joseph Ansbro

If it can be written, or thought, it can be filmed.
-Stanley Kubrick, 1928-1999
 
There is a Mel Pardue designed Axis lock out there, the Model 720, which has- aluminum handles! I personally prefer G10, but that's only my preferance. If you are looking for a good price on a knife, drop me a line, I'm a dealer.
I personally carry -and recomend- the Benchmade 710 Axislock. Good knife, good price. And when you pay $35 for a folder at Wal mart, and $120 for a BM710, you are buying both a higher quality knife, and a whole different, and better(
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) level of service.
Spyderco offers those just getting into the carry of quality knives, and those who KNOW a good range of product. The first knife that I ever carried was a Spyderco Endura, really good knife. Spyderco also has a broader price range $35-190 for standard production pieces, depending on where you get them.
I'm not the cheapest dealer out there, but I am totally into customer satisfaction. If you're not happy, I'm not either(it's one of the reasons that I became a dealer).
Now that said, feel free to Email me, and I'll be happy to answer any questions that you may have.

Good Luck!

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Joe Glessner, owner
Sycotic Samurai Cutlery

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LINGUISTICS

The reason that phrase didn't look right is this... The word "another" comes from "an - other". But when you wanted to insert the "whole" between the parts, the "an" became "a"... Only instead of separating the WORDS in "another", which would have left you with "other", you sctrictly split it between LETTERS, which left you with "nother".

That bugs me every time I hear it.
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I'd always assumed it wouldn't/couldn't be done in writing, because it would "look wrong". I've also never seen/heard anyone else mention noticing it before.

Thanks for the info and the offer, but I'm not going to be buying soon and I haven't yet reached the stage of picking or even locating retailers.

Could you or anyone else please specify the nature of this superiority in product quality (other than the locking mechanism, I got that part) and service?
 
Well, the difference in quality between, say, a Gerber EZ-out(cheap Wal-Mart knife) and a Spyderco (Im using them because i have more experience with their products) is the quality in materials, workmanship and design. The design qualty is most apparent in the handle ergonomics and edge geometry. I got an EZ-out for my dad for his birthday and he thinks its great, and for him, it is. However, when I pick it up, it just feels bad in my hand, because im used to the well-designed handle of my Spyderco Delica. The difference in material quality is also apparent when you compare them. The finish on my Delicas blade is very polished, the Gerber has a very dull, rough finish. This is more than just a beauty contest, the smooth finish is much more corrosion resistant. Also, the ATS-55 steel used in the Spydie takes and holds a much sharper edge than Gerbers steel, I'm not sure what yhey use. The workmanship quality is mostly apparent in the fit and finish, but you'll notice that a Spyderco has a much smoother action than a Gerber. As to the better service you get from the company, you can go on to Spyderco's forum here on BF and read many posts of Sal Glesser's in which he is bending over backwards to make a customer happy. There was even an instance in which a guy clearly voided the warranty by grinding lines in the spine of his Delica with a dremel. A few days later he had a rusty crack in the blade, but it wasn't from what he had done to it, it was an imperfection in the steel. Sal offered to fix it without charge, even though he could have rightly said that the warranty was voided and he wasn't obligated to do so. If you really want a knife that you'll like and continue to like years down the road, a cheap knife from Wal-Mart just won't cut it. I think that you will be much more satisfied with a quality product from any of the manufacturers suggested in this thread. Hope this helps to clarify things.

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Just because I talk to myself doesn't mean I'm crazy. What's wrong with getting a second opinion?
 
You can't go wrong with the Axis. Military, or the AFCK. Better yet, get all 3, and then let us know which one you like the best.
 
Foxtail, the REKAT Sifu is not in production as yet. I have read that Bob Taylor is busy revising the rolling lock to handle the added stress of the longer blade.

As to a 4+ inch blade, you need to remember that they are illegal in many, if not most, jurisdictions and most manufacturers don't seem to want to make a model for such a limited market. If you go back through the Spyderco forum, you will see whare the president of Spyderco has said this a number of times in response to requests for karge balded folders.

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Ya, I had started gathering that impression about blade length... at least regarding availability, if not law.

But it doesn't matter, for two reasons. 1. I have taken a ruler and visualized the knife blade length range I want while holding the ruler with certain lengths left protruding from my hand (plus a bit for the end of the handle), to more accurately than before visualize what I want; and I'd have to revise both my minimum and my maximum downward by about an inch. 2. The BenchMade Model 710 Axis appears to suit my every requirement perfectly, and its blade is 3.9"... under my original loose "minimum" by less than an eighth of an inch that I'd never detect, nevermind care about.

I like the 710's blade, the shape and look of its handle, and what I've heard of its locking mechanism, as well as the price. (...with which I am surprised; Knifecenter.com lists the 710's suggested retail price at $120. I know that SRPs are often different from what the buyer will actually spend, but still, that's not bad no matter how you cut it.) I could look for another one instead, but the only kind of knife that I could even consider, according to the standards I've chosen for this purchase, would have to be one that's practically identical to the 710 anyway, so why bother? It's like the 710 was made to order, to match my specifications so precisely.

Now all I have to do is locate sources for buying the thing, pick one, and wait for a paycheck or two. (Fortunately, the next few weeks of pay will be about 100% profit, since I've paid everything for the month.)
 
It brings a tear to my eye whenever I see a "knife/person romance" work out like that. You've made a fine choice. Be sure to post after the "wedding" and tell us how it works out.

-Drew
 
Excellent choice on the Axis-Lock, the more I carry mine the more I WANT to carry it. As for purchasing, go directly to MJ&S Knives after you feel the piece, but before that it is up to you where you go to hold and feel a 710. May I also recommend the black teflon coating, it may not seem like much now, but if this knife is going to be a serious partner to you, it WILL get dirty. The steel that the Axis-Lock has is called ATS-34, and it has one flaw: Carbon. It's added to keep the blade sharper longer, but carbon = rust. The BT2 teflon based coating protects the blade from rust, thats why all (or most) blades made of rust magnet steel M2 (tool steel) have a teflon coating. Are you near any salt water? If so, or if you are ever going to be, get the BT2 coating. It costs like five dollars more through MJ&S and it also looks very cool... It adds lubricity to the blade also, opening and closing faster without messy liquids.

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Robert Joseph Ansbro

If it can be written, or thought, it can be filmed.
-Stanley Kubrick, 1928-1999
 
Hmmm, I never thought of carbon content as a steel's "flaw" before... I suppose in the sense of promoting corrosion it's a flaw, but it's also what makes it steel and not merely iron.

In my experience, ATS-34 will rust rapidly if any moisture or gunk is left on the blade. On the other hand, Benchmade's coating wears off terribly easily, and while it still protects after it appears worn through, it isn't very attractive. Your choice is between a knife that muct be cleaned often or one that will look pretty beat-up after only light wear.

-Drew
 
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