Which knives/styles do you plain dislike? For no real reason, rubs ya wrong, design, steel, handle, blade-shapes, brands. Judgement-free opinions.

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Do you own a Deka? They work VERY well...
If it's just the aesthetics: that's why there are so many manufacturers...
 
brancron said:
I agree with you there. Hogue makes great quality knives but I just don't understand most of their design choices. (Maybe their design language is imported from the gun world?) Putting aside the Ritter RSK (which I agree doesn't count), their most "normal" knife so far is the Deka. But even that one has odd choices: the "G-Mascus" G10 on the Gen 1s, the compound grind on the wharncliffe one, the all-black hardware, the slightly weird and knobbly thumb stud, etc.
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It's a shame because I have heard nothing but good things about Hogue's production quality and prices. Like you said it's just the design language.

The Deka is definitely not as bad as most. I even considered picking up a clip point a while back because I wanted to try out MagnaCut. The strange thumbstuds turned me off though. I like being able to remove them for sharpening on a guided system, and plus they just looked kinda uncomfortable.
 
About the only thing that I really despise is the "fantasy knives" that seem to be all the rage on the big national discount sellers, usually from Tennessee. They have no value as a blade and they are ugly to the bone to boot. I could see their appeal to a six year old, but not to anyone old enough to afford one. They must sell them like hotcakes in the morning though, so I guess I am out in left field. Not unusual for me any more.
 
Since Hogue has come up, one thing that really bothers me is when a company makes a great knife but cheaps out on things like the clip, screws, etc. The clip on the Exploit is extremely weak and flimsy. Hogue actually replaced it under warranty.

Another example:

My ZT 0095BLKS90V--Handle and blade coated in DLC, but the clip is just painted black. How much more expensive would it be to DLC the clip. However, I replaced it with a deep carry from MXG, so I'm ok with it.
 
Too much loctite!!! Any folder blade is worthless if you can't clean it properly.
 
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Hashishiin said:
I have four knives with aluminum, two of them I do not have to worry about (PM2 aluminum machined scales - texture won't show scratches, and Boker Kalashnikov XL - it is a beater), but the other two, I baby for this reason (Microtech UTX-70 and PM2 with anodized/engraved Metonboss sclaes). Time will tell how I use these, how well I like them... No safe queens for me, though I do not mind it as a gentlemanly. dress-type knife that I don't drag through gunk. I am just going to start, sensibly, using that fancy engraved alum PM2 - if it holds up, it's worth it. If it looks terrible from use, then I buy once, cry once.


It isn't that I don't like them exactly, or that I think there's a problem (except spring worries), they are just slightly BORING to me, haha. Nothing wrong with a good old boring knife, my RAT is boring and I love it. That 940 at the bottom looks sweet, and the Mel Pardue at the very top is calling to me... but the one right above the 940 is what I mean when I say boring. The hollow grind on it looks super clean and useful, though!
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Except that's not what you said. You said:

Hashishiin said:
I'd say the BENCHMADE Axis lock is the one I avoid - and why I don't buy a Cruwear Adamas or anything. You hear them breaking. All. The. Time. From nothing! Other companies do it better.
Compare that to the CBBL, or even regular ball-lock, from Spyderco. Not as, "fidgety", but OHOable, will not break, and strong. That's what matters. Sure, I like to see a "hydraulic" looking drop shut, I like good actions (Sage 5 is standard I judge all comp locks on, 1990s Military is the best liner lock ever had by me) but, my slightly sticky Shaman has NO play, rock solid, and... it just doesn't have as smooth an action as a Sage! Nothing wrong with it, works A-OK, just will not drop open/shut. I am very happy with it.
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So, are they just "slightly boring" or is it because (as you claim) they break All. The. Time, "from nothing!"? That's patently and objectively false, by the way. I'm just curious at how you seemed to backtrack when someone posted a pic of some well loved Benchmades.

Also, who does the AXIS lock better? I'd love to know so I can have a look at their knives, so I appreciate you pointing me in the right direction.

Benchmade knives are excellent knives, and the AXIS lock is a great lock, especially if you enjoy fidgiting. Those of us who actually own Benchmades, all of us have at least two or three knives that have been "flipped" open and closed fifty thousand times or more, and the knife still locks up just fine.
 
I like ALL my Benchmades. Some of them are my most flickable knives. I've never had a failure on any of them.
(Currently about 23 knives.)
But the Hogue's ABEL-LOCK seems to be every bit as good...
 
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I would like to remind you, this is a judgement-free hate zone, so you can keep your common sense and logic out of here. 😋
No, I did challenge people to tell me if/why I was wrong. So, I'll take your opinion here just as seriously as I do the opinions of the Benchmade owners who I regularly heard reports of spring-loss, from something, from nothing...

Quiet said:
Except that's not what you said. You said:



So, are they just "slightly boring" or is it because (as you claim) they break All. The. Time, "from nothing!"? That's patently and objectively false, by the way.
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It's a bit of both. I do think a LOT of their folding knives, particularly with the drop-points, are kind of boring-looking. Standard, shall I say. And, I am also slightly wary of their Axis lock, and I've read enough reports from people who actually own Benchmade's knives to come to believe that their springs falling out is an issue, and have heard the advice "There are so many great aftermarket options! Xyz and Zyx on Etsy, had five springs loose, then none again!" the implication there being they recommend multiple clearly different sources of springs, so less likely to be shilling for one of them.

(Note: as this is a playful hate thread, I was riffing off the energy of other people, my "All.The.Time" was overkill and you wouldn't see me putting my trepidation in those kind of terms in any kind of serious way. This is not the thread to get your info from.)

So, you have some really good Benchmades. I have an excellent M4 Shaman. I'm not going to tell all the people who got wiggly, loose Shamans that they're wrong because I've used mine hard getting into trees and no wobbles with no tuning. So, I do take in both the negative, and the positive things you and others have to say. I believe you both, I think nobody is lying about their experience.

I take the opinions of people who actually own the knife seriously, which leads me into...

Quiet said:
I'm just curious at how you seemed to backtrack when someone posted a pic of some well loved Benchmades.
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The answer to this question, is part because I'm not trying to poo on people's knives, that's why.

As soon as I feel someone actually starts going "Hey, hey now, I love my knives and XYZ" and then takes a pic of his favorite knives, what do you want I should do? Tell him how terrible they all are? Would that have been better, as it would be in keeping with the overall "Do not think I will buy, would try" opinion of Benchmade? I don't think it'd be nice. I really did appreciate the knives - not that I want them all, but I appreciate that he carries, uses, and loves his knives. The 940 and the one with belly really were sweet, though.

Some people think my reverse-S collection is ugly as all get-out, but they still "like" a photo of an update, because of how much I like them, and the passion I have for them. I admire that.
Quiet said:
Also, who does the AXIS lock better? I'd love to know so I can have a look at their knives, so I appreciate you pointing me in the right direction.
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I have come to believe that aftermarket sellers make a better spring than Benchmade can. This is not fact. I don't know who - I don't have a folding Benchmade. Flippant request noted.

Quiet said:
Benchmade knives are excellent knives, and the AXIS lock is a great lock, especially if you enjoy fidgiting. Those of us who actually own Benchmades, all of us have at least two or three knives that have been "flipped" open and closed fifty thousand times or more, and the knife still locks up just fine.
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I take this just as seriously as the folks who have told me that Benchmade has gone downhill in QC, speaking over a period of 20 years! Why is their opinion better than yours/vice-versa? You seem to be a big Benchmade user. I see you post them.

Hey, are you always this hard-nosed, though, Quiet?
 
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slyraven said:
I dont like metal handles of any kind. I dont like out the side autos as it defeats the purpose of an auto.
Don't like auto assist..just needless.
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Out of curiosity and the inability to find the answer on the google, what is the purpose of an auto?

Personally, I love a protech out the side. Easy to deploy and feels solid when open.

I didn't care for the Microtech OTF I had. It was cool to play with but it just felt flimsy and cheap.
 
🤢FROST 🤢🤮 If you have enough of them in a canvas bag, they might make a serviceable anchor for a float tube, made of an old 10.00x20 truck inner tube.

United Cutlery fantasy "knives" (note quotes) like 'THE SHARK' and other things worn on the arm and that have "blades" (sharpened or not) that are more a danger to someone trying to use the thing, than anything/anyone else. 👎
 
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afishhunter said:
🤢FROST 🤢🤮 If you have enough of them in a canvas bag, they might make a serviceable anchor for a float tube, made of an old 10:00x20 truck inner tube.

United Cutlery fantasy "knives" (note quotes) like 'THE SHARK' and other things worn on the arm and that have "blades" (sharpened or not) that are more a danger to someone trying to use the thing, than anything/anyone else. 👎
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Frost, Kissing Crane, Timberwolf, all those BudK knives, that are the same offenders making knife-like-objects you mention below, and these often fool people into thinking real (SAKs, Leathermen, good traditionals) are "junk". I have met some people with that opinion who needed to be handed a real Victorinox or something depending on the case to see, "No, it's a real thing, you just got a junk version".

Look at this 3cr13 steel "Executive" Buck 110 auto rip - only $80, belongs on the desk of any executive, they say 😂 Executive manager of mall security, maybe.
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ac3boyz said:
Out of curiosity and the inability to find the answer on the google, what is the purpose of an auto?
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People who are unable to open a "normal" pocket knife, because of problems with their hands, or they are missing a hand.
Keep in mind, autos are nothing new. They date back to at least the 1880's. Long before modern one hand openers, and flippers were invented.
Schrade Cutlery specialized in autos from inception until the founder, George Schrade sold the company, and the US government started passing laws against them, in the pre-WWI days. Illegal to transport them over state lies may have been a Prohibition era law.
 
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