Which knives/styles do you plain dislike? For no real reason, rubs ya wrong, design, steel, handle, blade-shapes, brands. Judgement-free opinions.

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afishhunter said:
People who are unable to open a "normal" pocket knife, because of problems with their hands, or they are missing a hand.
Keep in mind, autos are nothing new. They date back to at least the 1880's. Long before modern one hand openers, and flippers were invented.
Schrade Cutlery specialized in autos from inception until the founder, George Schrade sold the company, and the US government started passing laws against them, in the pre-WWI days. Illegal to transport them over state lies may have been a Prohibition era law.
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I appreciate that info. I did see that they have been around long before I would have imagined. I just couldn't see why an out the side would not serve the same purpose.
 
@ Hashishiin Hashishiin - I'm loving the "judgement-free" aspect of this thread. I'm sure it's a good part of the reason it's collected this many pages of response. Being able to give an "opinion" without being piled on by whichever fanboy contingent, or derided because someone got butt-hurt because they see your opinion as some kind of weird direct challenge is liberating. :thumbsup:
 
Hashishiin said:
I would like to remind you, this is a judgement-free hate zone, so you can keep your common sense and logic out of here. 😋
No, I did challenge people to tell me if/why I was wrong. So, I'll take your opinion here just as seriously as I do the opinions of the Benchmade owners who I regularly heard reports of spring-loss, from something, from nothing...



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It's a bit of both. I do think a LOT of their folding knives, particularly with the drop-points, are kind of boring-looking. Standard, shall I say. And, I am also slightly wary of their Axis lock, and I've read enough reports from people who actually own Benchmade's knives to come to believe that their springs falling out is an issue, and have heard the advice "There are so many great aftermarket options! Xyz and Zyx on Etsy, had five springs loose, then none again!" the implication there being they recommend multiple clearly different sources of springs, so less likely to be shilling for one of them.

(Note: as this is a playful hate thread, I was riffing off the energy of other people, my "All.The.Time" was overkill and you wouldn't see me putting my trepidation in those kind of terms in any kind of serious way. This is not the thread to get your info from.)

So, you have some really good Benchmades. I have an excellent M4 Shaman. I'm not going to tell all the people who got wiggly, loose Shamans that they're wrong because I've used mine hard getting into trees and no wobbles with no tuning. So, I do take in both the negative, and the positive things you and others have to say. I believe you both, I think nobody is lying about their experience.

I take the opinions of people who actually own the knife seriously, which leads me into...


The answer to this question, is part because I'm not trying to poo on people's knives, that's why.

As soon as I feel someone actually starts going "Hey, hey now, I love my knives and XYZ" and then takes a pic of his favorite knives, what do you want I should do? Tell him how terrible they all are? Would that have been better, as it would be in keeping with the overall "Do not think I will buy, would try" opinion of Benchmade? I don't think it'd be nice. I really did appreciate the knives - not that I want them all, but I appreciate that he carries, uses, and loves his knives. The 940 and the one with belly really were sweet, though.

Some people think my reverse-S collection is ugly as all get-out, but they still "like" a photo of an update, because of how much I like them, and the passion I have for them. I admire that.

I have come to believe that aftermarket sellers make a better spring than Benchmade can. This is not fact. I don't know who - I don't have a folding Benchmade. Flippant request noted.


I take this just as seriously as the folks who have told me that Benchmade has gone downhill in QC, speaking over a period of 20 years! Why is their opinion better than yours/vice-versa? You seem to be a big Benchmade user. I see you post them.

Hey, are you always this hard-nosed, though, Quiet?
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Ok, so what I've taken from all this (which I admittedly skimmed) is that you made a factually incorrect comment and admit that you don't really know who makes a better AXIS, sorry, a crossbar lock, just that you know others have done it better, and that's the reason why you don't like a knife brand. Alright then. :thumbsup:

For what it's worth, I'm not a Benchmade fanboy, although they've completely won me back after something like a decade or so, by making a lot of amazing knives back to back. If I was a fanboy of anything, it'd be GEC, and a ton of folks in here don't like 'em. Doesn't bother me at all. :D

I have no issue with folks liking what they like, or not what liking what they don't like. But when objectively false statements are pushed and used for justification for not liking something, in a thread where new members might read it, that's where I draw the line, and will step in to say something. Benchmade has entirely valid reasons not to be liked as a company, or some of their products over the years. But their locks aren't a statistically significant issue. It'd be like coming in here in 2022 and claiming that you don't like Zero Tolerance because their ELMAX is trash. Hmmmm...sounds like something that someone who read a comment about ZT knives back in like, 2014 and then never read another word about them and ignored all the positive feedback from owners of ELMAX knives since then would say! That's the only point I'm making here.

Oh, and to comment on your first comparison, I would absolutely say something to someone if they came in here like "All Shamans are trash because mine was wiggly". I mean, first thing I'm going to ask is "Did you bother to try to tighten the pivot or nah?"

Lastly, aftermarket springs are generally for the same people who will put Skiff bearings in all their knives that already came with bearings, it's an entirely subjective result as a metric. I've flipped a few Skiff bearing Hinderers and was left asking "Why did you bother, this doesn't feel any different than the standard Hinderer Tri-Way Bearings (the guy had both knives on the table for comparison).

But that's neither here nor there.
 
I don’t trust assisted opening knives. I know lots of people use them without issues but it’s not riding in my pocket.
Buck ruined their 300 series when the went to the edge 2000 thing.
 
I’ve tried to like Tanto knives, but I just can’t. I understand the utility, but I just can’t seem to get one back into my pocket.
 
Can't come to grips with this one.

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Anything from China that looks suspiciously like something not made in China.

The PM2. Blade to handle ratio is low and the pointy tip is too delicate for my needs. Also the S30v is soft.

Most tantos.

Expensive knives in marginal/outdated steel like VG10, AUS8/10 etc.
 
DMG said:
Anything from China that looks suspiciously like something not made in China.

The PM2. Blade to handle ratio is low and the pointy tip is too delicate for my needs. Also the S30v is soft.

Most tantos.

Expensive knives in marginal/outdated steel like VG10, AUS8/10 etc.
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soft like kelsea ballerini???????????????????????????
 
ac3boyz said:
Out of curiosity and the inability to find the answer on the google, what is the purpose of an auto?

Personally, I love a protech out the side. Easy to deploy and feels solid when open.

I didn't care for the Microtech OTF I had. It was cool to play with but it just felt flimsy and cheap.
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The otf autos can open AND close automatically. The side load can open auto with a button but has to be closed manually.

I like being able to one hand the knife for open and close, so to me, side auto is pointless..I can open a thumb stud, hole or flipper just as fast as an auto or near ot but can't close quickly

I'm not sure of microtechs I never handled one. I do have the kershaw launch side auto but I never use it because of the manual close issue
 
slyraven said:
I like being able to one hand the knife for open and close, so to me, side auto is pointless..
. I do have the kershaw launch side auto but I never use it because of the manual close issue
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I have a Launch 7, and really dig it. One-hand closing? Push the button, and close it by pushing the blade's spine against you leg!
 
Two particular knives I came to dislike intensely while I had them:
1. CRKT M21-14SFG
2. SOG Flash II tanto.

The CRKT I thought was cool when I bought it. I came to hate the fiddly lock, the Veff serrations, and the overall size and weight of the thing, not to mention the cheesy holes in the handle. It got stolen and I never wished it back. It came back to me anyway, sort of. I bought a car in South Dakota and the seller left a very similar M16-something under the seat.
The SOG annoyed me for two reasons. 1. The cheap feel of the plastic handle, and the tinny sound it made when opening. Plus it was a tanto. The knife had a lot of fans, not here particularly, but on the Smith and Wesson forum. I gave it away there.

I have had worse knives, but none I disliked as much as those two.
 
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