Recommendation? Which lubricant does it all?

Has anyone had experience with FrogLube? According to this review comparing 42 lubricants and rust preventative products, FrogLube was in a class of its own in both lubricity and rust prevention. Astonishingly, it is a food grade product. Here's the link to the test. review-comparison-gun-care-products
 
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Has anyone had experience with FrogLube? According to this review comparing 42 lubricants and rust preventative products, FrogLube was in a class of its own in both lubricity and rust prevention. Astonishingly, it is a food grade product. Here's the link to the test. review-comparison-gun-care-products
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i have not, but others have said it didnt work for them. now that could have been a install error where they used far too much frog lube, but... take that with a grain of salt.

the test in that link they applied a very thin layer.

i have a bottle of "Birchwood Casey Barricade Rust Protection Aerosol" and "Hornady One Shot Gun Cleaner with DynaGlide Plus" in my wishlist. next time i make a purchase i will pick one or the other up and see how well it does as those were the leading choices in that very link. not food safe but who knows how well they will do. certainly will provide rust protection based on those results. hopefully they will provide good enough lubrication.
 
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Has anyone ever run some sort of friction test on all of these lubricants? I use tiny amounts of nano oil on my pivots, tuff glide on my detent ball and track and sentry bp-2000 for lock bar stick. I know fhe bp2000 works for that process. The others???. I have no idea if the other lubricants are the best. I know they are somewhat effective but I do not know if one is better than another. I too think that nano oil is snake oil but its better than no oil at all. (although some pivots do not need any lubricant IMHO)
 
@ulileann What you are looking for is in the link two posts above.

A friction test was part of the link that I attached. The lubricity I mentioned was measured and expressed as the coefficient of friction in a graph. The formula for friction is: Force of friction = coefficient of friction X force perpendicular to surface. The lower the coefficient of friction, the better the lubrication. Remember that excess oil or lubricant increases the friction. Only a light film is needed. [Trust me, I taught Physics and spent my career in industrial and nuclear physics].
 
I wouldn't recommend Ballistol for traditional knives with brass liners, it might damage the brass over time.

Frog Lube is good but has a funky odor (to me anyway).

I use a product called Slip 2000 EWL for most of my folders, I use a needle oiler to get in tight spots..but it's a little thin.

Gunfighter Gun Oil, 100% synthetic and odor free that is working pretty good so far, it doesn't leave any residue.

Eezox seems to help on stainless pistol slides, but it leaves a residue.

I loved and used G-96 for years but it's been difficult to find around here, it has a pleasant odor and I never had an issue with corrosion on the many firearms I owned at the time. It didn't harm walnut stocks either.

My son works in a gun shop so gets plenty of samples of new products for testing, none of them are heads and shoulders above the others.
 
Really?

All this unicorn juice?

Lubriplate.
SFL-0
FMO 350-AW

Been around benchrest shooting and weapon smiths my whole life.
All you need (other than dedicated copper remover/solvent)
Great slip, great boundary lubrication.
Food safe, non toxic.
Stays put.
If it slides it gets grease, if it rotates it gets oil.

I've been using these for a long time.
Knives are buttery smooth on the oil, but like velvet on the grease.

Here's a link showing the tech

http://www.grantcunningham.com/2006/05/lubrication-101/

I'm sorry to say this...
But...

If there were something better, the lubrication industry would know about it LONG before the knife/gun/flashlight geeks of the world.
 
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So far no mention of any of the dry lubes?? I really have good results with the SENTRY SOLUTION product called "BP-2000" >> I find it far better than about other dry lube I've used to date.

Speaking of the SENTRY SOLUTION products there used to be a lot of the guys here at BF that really liked their products but I don't hear much mention of them anymore for some unbeknownst reason. I've had really good results with all their products I've used.
 
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I use Tuf Glide on my folders. Works great, last forever and doesn't attract dirt.
 
Razor said:
What is snake oil?
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yeah that's a new one on me too :rolleyes: I didn't realize that most snakes even needed to be oiled o_O

Actually that's an old cliche they used to describe those fake elixirs that con artists years ago used to go town to town on a horse and buggy to sell to an unwitting public :(

Basically the old adage "Snake Oil" is descriptive of something fake and/or very low quality. And I do tend to agree with the guy who posted that description that there are a lot of lubrication products on the market that are not what they claim they are. Like I said previously I've yet to find anything that beats the "Militec" and Sentry Solutions products.
 
when you make a bunch of claims without data to back it up. or you make claims and you use things that convince people that it actually does something when it actually doesnt. basically fabricated data or data that support your claims but has nothing to do with your product. you use the advantage to sell the product to folks who dont know any better.

in the oil industry there is a test called a Timkin tester. it does not simulate oil in an engine what so ever. but pop up oil compaines use this test to pull the sheet over peoples heads to prove there oil is the best thing since sliced bread (even tho huge important companies that depend highly on the latest and greatest in oil dont even use (eg military, nasa, boing etc).
example https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3150338

most lubes are advertised as machine oil, or clock oil, or whatever, they dont make huge claims like some do.
 
I bought both the grease and oil from Geissele for my guns and have had really good luck with them in knives.

Look up Bill Geissele's video on the lube, he is a guy that does nothing half assed
 
rod tak said:
I bought both the grease and oil from Geissele for my guns and have had really good luck with them in knives.

Look up Bill Geissele's video on the lube, he is a guy that does nothing half assed
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Not bad maybe I'll pick some up and see how it stacks up. Non toxic is good, but are they food safe? One review says it kinda smells like crayons which probably smells better than most stuff. Not a bad price for the quantity. how do we know it's not made in his basement with house hold ingredients? Any info on the company that makes it?
 
Geissele is one of the most precision oriented companies in the firearms industry, and they have the highest quality machining of just about any company out there. Best triggers and optics mounts on the market. Nothing they do is half assed, so if there's one guy I can trust the integrity of its him. In the video, I believe he explains the process in which they tested it and came up with it, I think he said he only developed it because they used it for a stress test machine that needs very high-end lubrication for thousands upon thousands of repetitions. It is non-toxic, but food safe I'm not quite sure so I'm cautious. I like the grease in particular because it's a quadruple zero rated grease it is very thin but stays in place very nicely. Since it's for guns you get a decent amount for the price, it would last you forever in regards to Knives
 
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rod tak said:
Geissele is one of the most precision oriented companies in the firearms industry, and they have the highest quality machining of just about any company out there. Best triggers and optics mounts on the market. Nothing they do is half assed, so if there's one guy I can trust the integrity of its him. In the video, I believe he explains the process in which they tested it and came up with it, I think he said he only developed it because they used it for a stress test machine that needs very high-end lubrication for thousands upon thousands of repetitions. It is non-toxic, but food safe I'm not quite sure so I'm cautious. I like the grease in particular because it's a quadruple zero rated grease it is very thin but stays in place very nicely. Since it's for guns you get a decent amount for the price, it would last you forever in regards to Knives
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This is a bit dated, but wow https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Geissele-Automatics-RVW5376298.htm
 
Try something like one of these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Handy-small...764638?hash=item569aa61b1e:g:1TsAAOSwv0tU7LbM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-1-2-OZ-PR...262102?hash=item3f547a9fd6:g:KjYAAOSwFnFWBbPL

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-PACK-1-2-...537161&hash=item3f544d185d:g:glcAAOSw9r1WBbNl

PirateSeulb said:
For my knives I stick to Food Grade Mineral Oil I just need to find and get something to help with the application of it to tighter spots. It won't go rancid unlike most other oils you may having in your kitchen @That_Knife_Guy
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I was a dyed-in-the-wool Sentry Solutions guy for many years. I live in a tropical environment northern Thai jungles) where even plastic rusts! (Almost.) I used their 'Marine Tuf-glide' on my pocket knives and on my fencing weapons. But as the fencing weapons are constantly being bashed about, I discovered that the blades would spot up with rust within a day or two of play. The contact points, where two blades hit together would begin to rust. All was fine as long as I cleaned the blades after a match and re-applied the Marine Tuf-glide.

So I switched to 'Frog Lube.' That was almost two years ago. When applied to a warmed-up blade, 'Frog Lube' claims to penetrate the metal. I really don't know how it could... but I do know the results I see on my weapons. I've gone as long as two weeks without cleaning some blades that were used heavily in bouting, just as an experiment, and not a single spot of rust on any of them. I'm sold. As a rust inhibitor, 'Frog Lube' gets my vote. As a lubricant... well... the action on my EDC doesn't feel any different than when I used ordinary mineral oil with PTFE. It's smooth and it doesn't collect pocket dust. Perhaps if it were put onto some sort of super-sensitive testing equipment in the lab there may be some difference. But I don't experience any difference. And to me, that's all that matters. The stuff works. Period.
(P.S. I like the smell. :) )


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