Which One of these is best for Hunting?

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gadgetgeek said:
Also, a small note, the handle should be cut from a 2x6, just for the added strength.

As a serious question, could you peen a pin from stainless cable? I mean, it would need some sort of collar countersunk into the scale to hold it. Or am I just an idiot who stumbled face first into how mosaic pins are actually made and everyone else already knows this? Just thinking of coat hanger mosaic pins and then wandered off to steel cable.
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I don't think stainless cable would hold. Never tried it, but I just don't think so.
 
Horsewright said:
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Sonoran Belt Knife/Caper on top, Sonoran Hunter next and Sonoran Skinner on bottom. Designed with the help of a world travelling hunter/writer and torture tested at a game ranch where numerous animals were processed daily from first of Oct through the end of Mar. At the end of Mar they asked if they could keep the test set and sent me their own money (not the outfits but personal money), for more. If you're looking for an all rounder look hard at the hunter design. A2 at 62 RC. Do not use 1/4 stock for this project. These are ground so thin they are sharp before I grind the secondary bevel.

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they all look very nice. I love A2 because of the thin edge you can get with it.
 
SpySmasher said:
It's pretty self-evident but I will make a list if I half to:

1) Stronger.
2) More pins.
3) Repurposed.
4) Better for hunting.

That's just the first four.
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Gotta side with 22-rimfire and rodriguez7 on this one. You said the 2nd design was better, while impugning the opinions and knowledge of a number of other posters who responded - which I personally found a little harsh but let it go. When asked to substantiate your claim, you give the following reasons:

1) Stronger - Not in itself a determinant of better design. If strength was a factor of superiority in this case, then a blade made from 1" thick steel would be even better.
2) More Pins - Again not a indicator of better design. Using your reasoning, a knife with 50 pins would be the better design. With many scales attached with Epoxy, pins are often more decorative than structural in their function at this point I should think.
3) Re-purposed - Philosophical choice, not a valid indicator of design superiority. While it is laudable and essential that we alter the American habit of disposable everything, it hardly qualifies as an indicator of a better design. One could re-purpose a plastic drinking straw to be a scale pin. Apart from being an improvement against corrosion, I can't think of a single BF member mentioning re-purposed plastic straws as a desirable trait on a knife.
4) Better for Hunting - This is just restating your original statement - which is an opinion. Definitely not providing any evidence or even other substantive opinions to justify your original claim.

I am definitely not trying to be a d*** or confrontational. Just saying that you haven't actually responded to 22-rimfire and rodriguez77's request that you back up your assertions made in your earlier post. I too would love to hear why the OP's design is so vastly superior to the other. I am eager to learn more about great knife design.
 
Just a point of clarification, with regards to the functionality of "being better for hunting". Does that statement denote that the knife will
A:Only excel at hunting related tasks such as primary butchering?
B:Only excel at direct hunting when used as the primary "weapons system"
C: Provide some additional skill to the hunter by way of some effect, placebo or otherwise, as a talisman
D: Give some other advantage to the user during a hunting situation that I am not aware of, such as concealment/ camouflage, noise/scent control, or provide some level of animal attractant/bait?
Just wanting to be clear on all terms, I know this debate is getting a bit heated, just wanting to be sure I'm not unintentionally misreading it.
 
Dan of Bazz Clazz said:
Gotta side with 22-rimfire and rodriguez7 on this one. You said the 2nd design was better, while impugning the opinions and knowledge of a number of other posters who responded - which I personally found a little harsh but let it go. When asked to substantiate your claim, you give the following reasons:

1) Stronger - Not in itself a determinant of better design. If strength was a factor of superiority in this case, then a blade made from 1" thick steel would be even better.
2) More Pins - Again not a indicator of better design. Using your reasoning, a knife with 50 pins would be the better design. With many scales attached with Epoxy, pins are often more decorative than structural in their function at this point I should think.
3) Re-purposed - Philosophical choice, not a valid indicator of design superiority. While it is laudable and essential that we alter the American habit of disposable everything, it hardly qualifies as an indicator of a better design. One could re-purpose a plastic drinking straw to be a scale pin. Apart from being an improvement against corrosion, I can't think of a single BF member mentioning re-purposed plastic straws as a desirable trait on a knife.
4) Better for Hunting - This is just restating your original statement - which is an opinion. Definitely not providing any evidence or even other substantive opinions to justify your original claim.

I am definitely not trying to be a d*** or confrontational. Just saying that you haven't actually responded to 22-rimfire and rodriguez77's request that you back up your assertions made in your earlier post. I too would love to hear why the OP's design is so vastly superior to the other. I am eager to learn more about great knife design.
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I am not "impuggning" anyone. I am just saying that it's totally obvious that the second kinfe is the better kinfe to anyone with even a modicum of kinfe knowledge.
 
Dan of Bazz Clazz said:
Gotta side with 22-rimfire and rodriguez7 on this one. You said the 2nd design was better, while impugning the opinions and knowledge of a number of other posters who responded - which I personally found a little harsh but let it go. When asked to substantiate your claim, you give the following reasons:

1) Stronger - Not in itself a determinant of better design. If strength was a factor of superiority in this case, then a blade made from 1" thick steel would be even better.
2) More Pins - Again not a indicator of better design. Using your reasoning, a knife with 50 pins would be the better design. With many scales attached with Epoxy, pins are often more decorative than structural in their function at this point I should think.
3) Re-purposed - Philosophical choice, not a valid indicator of design superiority. While it is laudable and essential that we alter the American habit of disposable everything, it hardly qualifies as an indicator of a better design. One could re-purpose a plastic drinking straw to be a scale pin. Apart from being an improvement against corrosion, I can't think of a single BF member mentioning re-purposed plastic straws as a desirable trait on a knife.
4) Better for Hunting - This is just restating your original statement - which is an opinion. Definitely not providing any evidence or even other substantive opinions to justify your original claim.

I am definitely not trying to be a d*** or confrontational. Just saying that you haven't actually responded to 22-rimfire and rodriguez77's request that you back up your assertions made in your earlier post. I too would love to hear why the OP's design is so vastly superior to the other. I am eager to learn more about great knife design.
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Whatever. You're probably just a knife snob with like 500 stridors.
 
SpySmasher said:
I am not "impuggning" anyone. I am just saying that it's totally obvious that the second kinfe is the better kinfe to anyone with even a modicum of kinfe knowledge.
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OK, pass on this knowledge of yours. I fail to see what is "obvious". Previous posters have asked you to give your reasons for that claim, and I am adding my voice to theirs. What facts do you base that claim upon? You have yet to provide a single fact or basis upon which to make your argument a valid one.
BTW, when you state that others who do not agree with you do not know knives - that's called impugning.
 
SpySmasher said:
I am not "impuggning" anyone. I am just saying that it's totally obvious that the second kinfe is the better kinfe to anyone with even a modicum of kinfe knowledge.
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I have carried kinfes since my first Webelos kinfe. A better hunting kinfe is always the one that looks better, and my kinfes are the best looking ones around.
 
What is with the "kinfes" spelling? Am I missing something? It has been repeated several times. I viewed it as a typo in SpySmasher's post. Maybe I'm wrong....

I guess the main reason I asked for reasons something is better is because of the universal statement that it suggests that anyone that doesn't agree, don't know their "kinfes".

I think the original knife (#1) could use another pin. Not a big thing to me if the handle is held securely as designed. Re-purposed materials mean absolutely nothing to me.... is this the end of the world kind of thing? 0.25" is too thick for a hunting knife and one used for cutting meat based on my experience. The strength that this steel thickness provides is totally unnecessary and only detracts from it's function of cutting meat.

As far as the saber shape or grind, that is purely personal preference. I prefer this shape overall for most everything because I like a sharp point and find the extra belly unnecessary for such things even for skinning or field chores where folks seem to prefer a drop point design.
 
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What are we going to hunt though, I think that’s the most important deciding factor here. If it’s animals, I’d go with the first design, just ffg. If it’s other humans, then go with design number two, more pins means less chance of your knife falling apart in a knife fight. And make sure you black that sucker out. If you’re hunting bananas or other produce, however, you’ll need a tanto in vg10
 
What I like most about the 2nd design is the clear and informative labelling. The designer here isn’t just telling what he wants, but also why he wants it! That passion and commitment really makes the 2nd design the clearly superior kinfe. And the pins, which would strengthen the handle greatly in the case of close combat with a wounded grizzly.
 
22-rimfire said:
What is with the "kinfes" spelling? Am I missing something? It has been repeated several times. I viewed it as a typo in SpySmasher's post. Maybe I'm wrong....

I guess the main reason I asked for reasons something is better is because of the universal statement that it suggests that anyone that doesn't agree, don't know their "kinfes".

I think the original knife (#1) could use another pin. Not a big thing to me if the handle is held securely as designed. Re-purposed materials mean absolutely nothing to me.... is this the end of the world kind of thing? 0.25" is too thick for a hunting knife and one used for cutting meat based on my experience. The strength that this steel thickness provides is totally unnecessary and only detracts from it's function of cutting meat.

As far as the saber shape or grind, that is purely personal preference. I prefer this shape overall for most everything because I like a sharp point and find the extra belly unnecessary for such things even for skinning or field chores where folks seem to prefer a drop point design.
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As Alpha Male of the Entire Universe, I have chosen "kinfe" as the correct spelling.

It's the end of the world as you know it, and you know it. Extra strength of knives is necessary for fending off the giant battle pigs.

If you take sides with Kyle, you will be destroyed! And if you take sides with Tyler or Tucker, you will be destroyed even more! I have warned you!! I have warned you with extra exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lots of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Pilsner said:
What I like most about the 2nd design is the clear and informative labelling. The designer here isn’t just telling what he wants, but also why he wants it! That passion and commitment really makes the 2nd design the clearly superior kinfe. And the pins, which would strengthen the handle greatly in the case of close combat with a wounded grizzly.
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Finally someone who gets it!

You are imbued with great wisdom. I may have to google "imbued" now, and then come back and replace it with another word, but for now, you are imbued with great wisdom.
 
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