Which Trap for small game??

Hey Pict;

The coolest trap they use here is a killing trap used for birds. They take a sapling and stake it down on the thick end, flat on the ground. The other end is free to be lifted up like a big spring pulled up away from the ground. When released the pole will slap downwards with great force.

Alongside this pole/spring they build a fence of bamboo stakes that limits the birds approach to the bait from only the trigger side.

The trigger is a long thin stick resting against a toggle release. When the birds perch on the stick to feed on the seed at the base of the bamboo fence, and there is enough of them, the end of the trigger "perch" slides off the end of the toggle release and the pole/spring slaps down.
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Sounds like an interesting trap. Any chance of a diagram of the trigger mechanism?

(arapuca):

The Y is placed under the lifted edge of the trap. On the side of the Y facing away from the trap you need to cut a small notch. Into this notch is placed a support stick.
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How far, below the bottom of the fork, is the notch?

Thank you in advance,

:) DOC-CANADA :)

Postscript - I posted this just before the forum went down and Pict, you may have missed this so I brought it back to the top. Your help would be appreciated. Doc
 
the promontory peg deadfall is far easier to construct than, either, a figure 4 or paiute, hands down.

this trigger only requires two sticks, that's it.

Alan
 
Doc, it is almost a reverse figure 4 the trigger stick is actually the perch, under the trap. it really is quite ingenious.

Alan
 
Halcon said:
Doc, it is almost a reverse figure 4 the trigger stick is actually the perch, under the trap. it really is quite ingenious.

Alan
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Which trap are you referring to?

:) Doc :)
 
the arapuca, is the one i was refering to, however the promontory is great, as well.

alan
 
The Arapuca is clear enough, except I'm interested in how far below the 'Y' the notch is cut in the 'Y' stick.

What I'd like to see more info on is:
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The coolest trap they use here is a killing trap used for birds. They take a sapling and stake it down on the thick end, flat on the ground. The other end is free to be lifted up like a big spring pulled up away from the ground. When released the pole will slap downwards with great force.

Alongside this pole/spring they build a fence of bamboo stakes that limits the birds approach to the bait from only the trigger side.

The trigger is a long thin stick resting against a toggle release. When the birds perch on the stick to feed on the seed at the base of the bamboo fence, and there is enough of them, the end of the trigger "perch" slides off the end of the toggle release and the pole/spring slaps down.
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:) Doc :)
 
Yes and no. I've seen it in WW, but I haven't got out and played with it yet. In fact, I was just thinking about doing that very thing. I think it is also discussed in BPT if I'm not mistaken.

In any case, thanks for the response.

Hopefully, Pict will see this and get back to me.

:) Doc :)
 
Doc, here is a deadfall I came up with, you might find interesting, it is similiar to the arapuca and promontory

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trigger.jpg
 
As a matter of fact, i caught a squirrel in it this morning. of course, I was using the crate.

Alan
 
thats a slick lil trap I will have to try that it looks pretty easily executed....I was wondering is the figure 4 as hard as I am making it or is there a trick to it? I have not been able to make the notches fit exact or somethin.
 
Halcon said:
Doc, here is a deadfall I came up with, you might find interesting, it is similiar to the arapuca and promontory

full_trap.jpg


trigger.jpg
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Hi Alan,

Yesterday, a buddy and I, among other things, went out and played 'trap triggers' :) We built your trigger, but had a problem with it (perhaps I'm missing something). When the trigger stick is hit sideways, no problem, worked fine, but when the stick was hit downwards, more times than not, the support stick caught the basket and stopped it from falling. Now if you're using it for squirrels and such, it works fine because the trigger stick is going to be hit sideways, in any case, but I was thinking about using it for birds. Maybe not a good application.

I guess you got your idea from the Promontory Peg.

We set up the Promontory Peg several times, and it worked fine, but my buddy, Phil, makes the trigger a bit different - he doesn't cut an angle into the support stick (despite admonitions to the contrary) but rather puts a bevel on the bottom of the lower stick, and it works great. It also negates the necessity of making a rough cut so that the upper stick doesn't slide out.

Also set up the Arapuca - works great!

And the San Bushman bird snare.

All in all, a very enjoyable day, but then again, what day outdoors isn't?

Doc
 
hey doc, try changing the angle of the upright here is an image. notice how it changes the support angle of the crate. also, see how much shorter the trigger is

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I also, cut the notch on the trigger support a little low, try cutting it a little higher up.

let me know if I can help

Alan
 
Hey Guys..

I absolutely suck and constructing most traps,, so I stick with the very simple,,and those are snares..

Snares can be VERY effective if placed in the proper spots..

I've taken many rabbits on bunny trails by simple using a head snare...

Can work on larger animals as well,,such as deer again if placed properly in the right locations...

ttyle

Eric....
 
I had some problems with skunks in the mid 90's. I found that if you shoot skunks in the upper back ; they hardly ever spray. I think it breaks their back.
used a 22 rifle. I got pretty god at hitting them without them spraying. I know this is a trap thread. Hope you don't mind the post. Dealing with a skunk in a live trap has proven to be very smelly.
 
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