Whisky Question

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  1. AntDog

    AntDog Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Apr 3, 2001
    Is this whisky or bourbon?

  2. Greykilt


    Dec 12, 2013
    Well which ever it looks delicious...

    Methinks this is bourbon

  3. Other Doc

    Other Doc

    May 28, 2015
  4. Dopic1

    Dopic1 Irredeemable wood purveyor Platinum Member

    Apr 1, 2013
    Yes inquiring minds want to know?
  5. 1066vik

    1066vik Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 28, 2009
    I'm going to vote "no".
  6. Benchmade92


    Apr 6, 2010
    Since its been charcoal filtered it is considered whiskey. All bourbon is whiskey but not all whiskey is bourbon.
  7. Danke42


    Feb 10, 2015
    It's a Whiskey, not a Whisky.

    They added an e because the Scottish stuff wasn't as refined as US spirits.
  8. Wicked Sharp

    Wicked Sharp Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 20, 2007
    Not just ANY whiskey..., but "TENNESSEE WHISKEY" and the preferred drink of Sinatra and Lemmy.
  9. Fubarski


    Apr 11, 2009
    Strictly speaking, bourbon can only be made in Bourbon County, TN, and Lynchburg isn't in Bourbon Co.
  10. SpyderPhreak

    SpyderPhreak Rocketman for hire Platinum Member

    Apr 13, 2004
    Neither. That's the stuff you mix with Coke. ;)

    j/k :p Here's some pics from last time I was at the JD distillery.

    Main entrance


    Statue of Jack staring at you as you walk in


    Jack keeping watch over the spring where all the water to make his Whiskey comes from


    This is what makes it "Tennessee Whiskey"


    Some pics from the museum



    A display of knives!!! :D



    You're welcome James!!! :D
  11. hhmoore

    hhmoore Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 7, 2014
    I don't know where you came up with that; but, strictly speaking, your statement is incorrect.
  12. Wilsonhome

    Wilsonhome Professional Chupacabra Tamer Platinum Member

    Oct 11, 2014
    I think Kentucky would disagree with you. :D
  13. TimmyJ


    Dec 20, 2015
    Bourbon has two be aged for two years in an oak cask....JD is whiskey.
  14. Insipid Moniker

    Insipid Moniker Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 28, 2011
    It's all good if you like some Tennessee whiskey, but it sure as heck ain't bourbon.
  15. Dopic1

    Dopic1 Irredeemable wood purveyor Platinum Member

    Apr 1, 2013
    For a whiskey to call itself bourbon, its mash, the mixture of grains from which the product is distilled, must contain at least 51% corn. The rest of the mash is usually filled out with malted barley and either rye or wheat.

  16. Morrow

    Morrow Don't make this weird

    Apr 11, 2007
    This made me giggle a bit.....
  17. zzyzzogeton


    Feb 17, 2013
    The following is from Jim Beam's web site---

    Five Facts About Bourbon

    All bourbon is whiskey, but not all whiskey is bourbon. A strict set of standards from the government regulates what’s what. Learn more about what defines “America’s native spirit” below.

    Fact 1 - Bourbon is kind of like whiskey’s “sweet spot.” Because corn is a sweet grain, the more corn, the sweeter the whiskey—and bourbon needs to be at least 51% corn. Tennessee whiskey? Not bourbon. Canadian whisky? Nope. Scotch? Definitely not bourbon… you get the idea.

    Fact 2 - In 1964, under President Lyndon B. Johnson’s administration, Congress declared bourbon "America’s native spirit". Today, bourbon is recognized around the world as America’s native spirit, led by Jim Beam®, the world’s No. 1 bourbon.

    Fact 3 - The only thing that can be added to bourbon is water (and only to bring it down to proof). Other whiskey makers can add colors (often caramel) and flavors to their products. But then, they can’t call their whiskey bourbon.

    Fact 4 - By law bourbon must be aged in NEW charred oak barrels. Scotch whisky often recycles barrels first used for bourbon. Perhaps they’re hoping to steal some of the bourbon’s deep flavor and complex character.

    Fact 5 - It can’t say “bourbon” on the label if it’s not distilled and aged in the United States. It can’t be “Kentucky Straight Bourbon” unless it’s distilled and aged in Kentucky for at least 2 years. And it can’t say Jim Beam® unless it’s been made by seven generations of one family.

    And some more Bourbon fun ---

    Made of a grain mix of at least 51% corn.
    Produced in the USA.
    Free of additives (except water to reduce proof, where necessary).
    Aged in new, charred oak barrels.
    Aged for a minimum of two years to be called "straight" bourbon.
    Distilled at no more than 160 proof (80% ABV).
  18. james terrio

    james terrio Sharpest Knife in the Light Socket

    Apr 15, 2010
    Lots of half-understood old wive's tales and outright bullshit floating around here. :rolleyes:

    JD is definitely not whisky, because that's the traditional Scottish spelling... and JD is NOT Scotch whisky. Nor is any other bourbon.

    True Scotch is never made with any American corn/maize; bourbon is always made with at least 51% American corn, usually a much higher percentage.

    That's the whole point... when scots/irish settlers came to what we now call Appalachia and the Middle South, they brought their highly-developed skills and technology with them, but found very little barley (or peat, for that matter). So they used plentiful, easy-to-grow and ferment/distill maize to make their liquor, instead.

    Is JD bourbon? Yes. Actual laws and trademark rules require anything labeled "bourbon" to be made from at least 51% corn, among other very specific guidelines. Jack Daniel's fits within all of those guidelines, so yes, they could call it bourbon without telling a single lie.

    JD is very much a "Tennessee whiskey", and there are even stricter laws and rules for that. Mostly involving charcoal-filtering, and aging requirements, as well as the grains used in the mash and other techniques.

    So the upshot is, Yes all Tennessee whiskey is (technically) bourbon. But not every bourbon is Tennessee whiskey.

    Untrue. First of all, Bourbon County is in KY, not TN. More importantly, there is no legal or even cultural "rule" that bourbon must be made in Bourbon County.
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2016
  19. Aias


    Aug 1, 2012
    That is my understanding too... Drink on!
  20. james terrio

    james terrio Sharpest Knife in the Light Socket

    Apr 15, 2010
    Thanks! I have not yet visited the JD distillery, although I fully intend to.

    More fun facts about bourbon... I mentioned the requirement that bourbon must contain at least 51% corn. Most bourbon is all corn, but that leaves a good deal of leeway for different mashbills, to achieve different flavor profiles. For instance, I'm sometimes in the mood for the dryer, more "peppery" flavor of rye whiskey, and there a number of distillers who include rye in their bourbon to achieve that. Sometimes I do not want the "sour" classic bourbon taste, so I choose a "wheated bourbon" ... which is exactly what it sounds like,,, traditional bourbon distilling/aging, but with a good amount of wheat in the mash. That gives the finished product a much sweeter, smoother aspect. :)

    Wrong. Charcoal filtering is only required for Tennessee whiskeys. Most whiskey makers do not employ charcoal filtering. Google "the Lincoln County process" for more details.

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