Who Else is having Staining Problems with CTS-XHP?

SBaker34 said:
How do you like it? The foundry is on my list
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Nice knife but I like it better now.

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I have had no issues with my Chaparral and it often cuts acidic fruits and vegetables in an extremely humid environment (100%).
 
I only have a couple of Spyders with XHP blade steel>> however I've not yet had any problem with patina, corrosion, pitting or rust on either one of my XHP blades. One of them is a C-36 Military with a rather large blade too.

Now I've been on top of corrosion problems with non-stainless blades and tool steel blades for some time now. The company that produces that excellent stainless steel polish known as FLITZ out of Germany also has a great metal wax that very few people are aware of. I've been using FLITZ's metal wax for at least 6 to 7 years now and I've had nothing short of excellent results with it.

Now do keep in mind that you want to follow their instructions for usage to the letter. I carefullly prepare and wash the metal of any oils, residues, fingerprints or any other stuff that might in due time corrode your blade. I've found that 91% Isopropyl rubbing alcohol does a great job most of them>> on some types of grease and oil it takes a hotter solvent sometimes. I've even used that FLITZ metal wax on guns and other stainless steel tools as well with great results.

I do encourage all of you to check out FLITZ's of great maintenance products.
 
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I have a kitchen knife in XHP. It gets used a lot, probably more than my other knives. It is hard to compare edge holding, but it doesn't seem any better than knives in VG10, but it does get used to bone chicken. This can be hard on a blade.
I wash and dry the blade after use, and it gets stored in a knife block. I have never seen anything other than a shine on the steel, after more than 1 year of use.
 
Yes I have had some corrosion/rust issues with my mule team 16 in XHP. It has a set of Halpern Titanium option 4 handles on it with a light coating of oil on the blade under the handles and on the G10 before installing about a year ago. I took it apart today to check and sure as can be there was some corrosion/rust starting, glade I checked. I have the same setup on a mule team 17 in K390 treated the same way and used for the same purposes as the XHP blade. The K390 had a couple of pin head size spots starting but not even close to what was going on under the handle scales on the XHP blade. I was a little surprised to say the least. I have not had any staining or corrosion issues thou with the XHP blade that is not under the handle scales.

Wayne...
 
No issues with any of mine. My Domino was etched, but even with the added surface area there were no issues.
 
Glad to hear most everyone is having no issues with XHP. Maybe it's something about how I've used my knives. I don't know what though and I do wipe them down if wet or dirty. The little brown spots is certainly no big issue for me.

bodog, I was insinuating that a lot of higher end knives don't actually see much if any use. A poor attempt at levity.

Thanks for all the feedback. g
 
I think Spyderco's use of XHP, M4, Super Blue, and other non-stainless steels is admirable, although it can be bad for PR. Not everyone is amenable to steel that isn't literally spotless.

Maybe a good marketing tactic would be to release two versions of every knife - one in non-stainless steel and one in 420 steel at a lower price. That way people who don't care about performance but only want it to look nice can have a cheaper alternative.
 
S90v is the only one that gives me problems. The other steels do what they are supposed to do. Apparently I forgot to wipe the spine of the blade down last time and it had some brown spots. I don't live in a humid area and I don't use the knife especially (940-1 btw), it's odd how it will spot from storage while all of the other knives I have are good to go.
 
I have a few XHP kitchen knives and like the steel.I consider it semi-stainless. I have read many times that XHP is a high carbon stainless = semi-stainless.
 
The spots that developed on my Techno in CTS-XHP after a year of merciless EDC duty while i was living in a Mexican beach town never ended up amounting to more than superficial brown spots...never any meaningful or worrisome corrosion.

It may not be pretty OP, but for what it's worth, my limited experience tells me you have nothing to worry about other than the cosmetic considerations. Hopefully that offers some reassurance.

I definitely wouldn't choose the microchippiness of s30v over XHP, but that's just my personal preference
 
CapitalizedLiving said:
I think Spyderco's use of XHP, M4, Super Blue, and other non-stainless steels is admirable, although it can be bad for PR. Not everyone is amenable to steel that isn't literally spotless.

Maybe a good marketing tactic would be to release two versions of every knife - one in non-stainless steel and one in 420 steel at a lower price. That way people who don't care about performance but only want it to look nice can have a cheaper alternative.
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No offense, but that's a horrible idea. If you want crap steel, Spyderco just is not for you. They aren't trying to appeal to every last person. Sal is a steel junkie. Even if you could make money with that sales model, I really doubt Sal would ever do that.
 
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I think Spyderco's use of XHP, M4, Super Blue, and other non-stainless steels is admirable, although it can be bad for PR. Not everyone is amenable to steel that isn't literally spotless.

Maybe a good marketing tactic would be to release two versions of every knife - one in non-stainless steel and one in 420 steel at a lower price. That way people who don't care about performance but only want it to look nice can have a cheaper alternative.
No offense, but that's a horrible idea. If you want crap steel, Spyderco just is not for you. They aren't trying to appeal to every last person. Sal is a steel junkie. Even if you could make money with that sales model, I really doubt Sal would ever do that.
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Yep. I agree with Cole.

I don't think the non stainless alloys Spyderco has used have been at all bad for PR judging by sales of the sprints and mules. They can be a PITA to find at times even when the runs are large ones. The small runs have caused the PR problems if that can be used to describe the reaction by people who were angry they couldn't get a knife without going to the secondary market. The runs have been larger lately and the mules are limited by customers to 1 or 2 each until the initial ordering frenzy is filled and customers have had a fair chance to get one. Then if a person wants to they can order more.

joe
 
nccole said:
No offense, but that's a horrible idea. If you want crap steel, Spyderco just is not for you. They aren't trying to appeal to every last person. Sal is a steel junkie. Even if you could make money with that sales model, I really doubt Sal would ever do that.
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Haha, I had a similar response typed up earlier, but decided not to submit it... was not sure if serious about actually making knives in 420, or if that was just a go at these people who freak out about carbon steels...?


If CapitalizedLiving really is worried about something that can "be bad for PR" for Spyderco, the last suggestion would be it! Just my opinion. :)
 
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