Who hasn't tried a high hardness carbon steel fixed blade knife?

LX_Emergency said:
I understand Mecha's concern. You post in the GENERAL forum with an insanely vague message and when people ask you questions about it you avoid direct answers.

Usually stuff like this is described as:

"Testers needed, people with experience. Please let me know if you're willing to put some serious effort into testing a couple of unusually hardened "carbon steel" blades. I'll make a selection for the testers"


This current message reeks of intrigue and Koolaid.
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That's not how I wanted to do it. When/if you decide to do something like this you can open it to whoever you want to. Once you see who's going to be testing them you'll see very quickly there's no kool-aid. As a matter of fact, if there's kool-aid involved, one or two of the testers will piss on the powder and make something nasty. That was the goal of trying to hand pick the judges. A variety of people who have a real need to use knives on the job and some guys are very familiar with steels along with a guy who is already a prolific tester of high alloy steels. It should be good. Why not just wait and see instead of trying to dump on it before it even happens? If I'm not mistaken you're a knifemaker, too. You could easily produce 4 blades to be scrutinized where the genuine quality of the steel you sell is tested and tested hard. Would you do something like that?
 
Om not dumping on anything nor implying anything.

All I'm saying is that I along with Mecha don't understand all the hush hush. Why not just bff open and transparent about it?

But hey it's your thing and you can run it anyway you like.
 
I am fairly certain that if Bodog started this thread with something along the lines of, I have 4 knives of w, x, y, and z steels each one is hardened to (insert value).

And then asked the following:
Who wants to use them in a demanding daily role and see how they perform?

He would have received a very high amount of people that just want to get their hands on a custom. Not people who are willing to actually test a steel with a certain HT protocol, while giving a (hopefully) unbiased review of how the knife and steel in particular performs over a variety of different tasks.

If you think the way he ran this didn't limit the amount of trash he had to wade through to find some people that He Thinks would be proficient and trustworthy, then why comment at all?

Why not just sit and see what comes of it since you don't have anything at stake? All you are doing is Choosing to involve yourself in this further and further with each post.
 
Hey, I'm just curious. That's all. Like I said I'm neither criticising nor implying anything.

You wanna do it this way I don't mind at all. But if you act mysterious be prepared to get some questions is all I'm saying. Especially on a forum of this magnitude.
 
Your curiosity is noted and understandable. The OP might be considered a bit vague in one aspect, the fact that it Might be seen as a veil to filter the ones deemed not helpful enough and/or not experienced enough.

I just don't feel that the OP in Any thread should have to explain themselves, especially if the subject is something that they are Hoping to see come to fruition and isn't set in stone yet.

Regardless of the size of the forum, what draws us together is an interest and a passion for all things edged. As long as there is something trying to progress the collective knowledge of the community, the wealth of information available here to the rest of the world, and a sense of common ground that allows us to have conversations like this, I am All for it.
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I am curious as to how we will compensate for the likelihood of the people involved having different sized hands while having to manipulate a knife under such varied conditions.
 
I don't know what kind of data you can get back in the big picture sense if your testers are green.

Have you ever driven a fast car? Yes/No? How fast is fast? Did you like it? Are you in jail now after a statewide high speed chase?

Vague and veiled questions tend to result in yelp level vague and veiled answers.
 
Danke42 said:
I don't know what kind of data you can get back in the big picture sense if your testers are green.

Have you ever driven a fast car? Yes/No? How fast is fast? Did you like it? Are you in jail now after a statewide high speed chase?

Vague and veiled questions tend to result in yelp level vague and veiled answers.
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Thank you for your concern. It's handled.
 
I was just having some fun with bodog and his mystery thread is all, no derision was meant toward the special knife testing once it was revealed. Humor is often lost in short type such as text messages and forums, sometimes resulting in arguments with girlfriends, forumites and the like. I should have added more green faces: :D Of course I look forward to seeing the real knife test thread when it starts. I'm sure lots of people are interested and will be watching closely. Very, very closely. :D
 
"high hardness" = "brittle". Witness a file. High hardness, carbon steel. Drop one and it is likely to break or shatter (been there done that. :( )
 
afishhunter said:
"high hardness" = "brittle". Witness a file. High hardness, carbon steel. Drop one and it is likely to break or shatter (been there done that. :( )
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Hardness and brittleness (low impact resistance) are not directly related in the hardness range for cutting tools like knives. There are many steels that have higher toughness (less brittle) at higher hardness. Even M2 at 65 HRc won't shatter if you drop it. Files are covered with notches. In the grand scheme of things, all steels used for cutting tools are brittle when hardened.
 
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