Who likes the new Fred Perrin PPT?

Chandler69 said:
What is your point? Cat and Chicago were budget knives
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Point being that when the quality of Taiwan manufacturers are questioned the Spyderco faithful come to the rescue, arguing that one has no legitimate basis for having concerns over the locale of manufacture. Usually citing that: (1) Spyderco did not select the manufacturer based on cost, (2) Spyderco's quality standards ensure a quality product, and (3) pointing to the Sage 2 and others made there. While I find it difficult to dispute the quality of the Sage, GB, and others, I do not think that concerns over location of manufacture are completely baseless. Case in point, the Cat and Chicago. Irrespective of the price point, the two were unable to be brought to market and completely discontinued. The problems must have been significant and beyond reasonable economic repair for discontinuance. Spyderco selected the materials, the manufacturer, and decided the price point, so the fact that they were "budget" knives is irrelevant.

Further, I continue to find it incredible that cost is not a motivating factor in the selection. Location of manufacture is disconcerting on a philosophical level and I do not feel that I need to say much on this point, as you have described such concerns well in your post.
 
To me the weight issues are .
1.How well the clip carries the weight 2. how well the knife handles, balance, etc.
 
jurisprudence said:
Point being that when the quality of Taiwan manufacturers are questioned the Spyderco faithful come to the rescue, arguing that one has no legitimate basis for having concerns over the locale of manufacture.
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My understanding is that it was a new manufacturer--they presumably made a promise, they didn't keep it, they won't be making knives for spyderco anymore. I'd hazard a guess that the supplier of the maple for the Bushcrafts won't be getting any more orders either. I don't think that has anything to do with locale of manufacture. Spyderco took a gamble, lost. It happens.

jurisprudence said:
Further, I continue to find it incredible that cost is not a motivating factor in the selection. Location of manufacture is disconcerting on a philosophical level and I do not feel that I need to say much on this point, as you have described such concerns well in your post.
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Of course cost is a motivating factor, just not the only motivating factor. As I recall from Sal's post on the subject, knives get made that wouldn't otherwise be made because the cost to manufacture here or in Japan would be too high for the market to bear. Also, I think your observation regarding production capacity in Seki and Golden is on target.
 
I like it, because it is just different from a lot of other Spyderco knives aesthetically speaking. As for the weight, I could care less. I do not think this will herniate my discs or cause a hiatal hernia, I'm a big boy and honestly cannot tell the difference between 4.0 and 5.0 or 5.3 ounces in my pocket when I am on the move. The G10 looks awesome, glad to see something instead of FRN or run of the mill flat textured G10. This one looks like a winner for sure.

The deep carry clip is awesome (on this one), considering so many people cried about the Military and Para not having it, Sal finally delivers and it's rejected. Nice. Most people do not realize that a knife as long as the Military when closed, is harder to deploy with a deep carry clip, I tried it and it was not efficient on that knife.

The Gayle Bradley is made in Taiwan, with USA materials, USA design, etc. The profits from that knife go straight to Golden to improve their set up. That is something I can get behind. The GB is arguably one of the finest production knives made to date. Don't believe me, use one for a day. I'll probably buy this one later on, can't do it quite yet finances are pinched up something awful.
 
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It looks great, Id have to hold it in hand though to pay that much for a foreign knife. Sage1/2 Was great, so maybe I will give it a shot.
 
Very nice looking knife, I like that blade shape.

As for where it was made... I definately prefer to support U.S. economy when I can, but don't have a problems buying knives made in other countries (as long as I know it's a good product), as long as we don't have bad relations with the country it's made in. Granted, if I can find the same knife made in the U.S. for a reasonable price, even if it's a bit more pricey than one made in another country, I'd probably buy the U.S.-made knife.
 
It is on my list of knives to buy. I like the blade shape and the modern design.

I too like things made in the USA, but Taiwan is a ballsy place and the source of most good computer motherboards, my other 'bad habit' that costs money. Trade is good.
 
I'm certain this one is going a great edc.
It's evident, the ergos are going to be perfect.
The shape of the blade is a really good compromise between penetration and deep cuts.
You can trust old fred perrin for designing knives which cut deep and with attitude.
No no sense here and a great lock's idea.
Way to go !
I'll wait for my favorite retailer to be shipped with some of those babies !
Cheers
nemo
 
I love the design, but I'm concerned with how much space it would take up in the pocket in terms of width and thickness, as well as the weight.

I would love a closed pic next to a delica, and a shot of the handle next to a delica to gauge thickness.
 
jasong911 said:
I like the scales and don't mind the weight, I have the Gayle Bradley also...there is jimping pretty far up towards the tip, making for an interesting choke up mode...
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I'm curious about the weight, myself. The Native IV weighs in at 3 1/8 oz., and the weight has never bothered me for pocket carry in jeans.

This may just be good timing for me, since I've been looking around for a "Pocket Tank" folder for some time, even considering something like a Strider PT CC... But even those are under 3 oz.

Honestly, this may be another folder I buy to that ends up on B/S/T. I'm fine with that. :D :thumbup:
 
Nemo said:
I'm certain this one is going a great edc.
It's evident, the ergos are going to be perfect.
The shape of the blade is a really good compromise between penetration and deep cuts.
You can trust old fred perrin for designing knives which cut deep and with attitude.
No no sense here and a great lock's idea.
Way to go !
I'll wait for my favorite retailer to be shipped with some of those babies !
Cheers
nemo
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Agree, it will end up being similar to the GB. The thing I kind of noticed is that this knife is Spydercos answer (so to speak in a figurative way) to the Benchmade Rift. I've not held either one yet, but there is some sort of similarity...maybe?
 
Edited: to remove a drunken post from 2am that basically said I wouldn't pay $140 retail for this knife. :foot::o
 
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