whose warranties cover unintentional abuse/breakage?

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whose warranties cover anything and everything that is unintentional? you break it in hard, abusive use and they replace it. I'm not talking about intentionally destroying a knife just to do it.
 
Himalayan Imports for sure (on most models), and I think that Busse, Swamp Rat and Strider as well. I'm sure there are others.
 
Busse Combat has such a warranty. And it applies if you are the first or the hundredth owner of the knife.

Swap Rat says that, for their fixed blades, you the purchaser decide what the warranty is.
 
Manufacturers with no questions ask warranties: Busse, Fehrman, Himalayan Imports, Strider, Swamp Rat Knife Works.
I think SRKW "No bullsh*t" warranty only covers their fixed blades.
 
I think SRKW has not yet descided on exactly the warrenty the Rat Trap will have, but I'm sure it will be very good.
 
Redguy said:
Does not have that type of warrenty. I broke one of their blades doing exactly the type of work they used to promote their blades and was raked over the coals by Mick and company. In contrast I have used khukuris from Bill much harder, blades from Busse, Swamp rat etc., with no where near that level of attitude. The warrenties are *NOT* the same in practice.

-Cliff
 
TOPs Knives are supposed to have a breakage replacement guarantee, but I've not needed to try it. Kinda hard to break 1/4 inch steel.
 
Cliff Stamp said:
Does not have that type of warrenty. I broke one of their blades doing exactly the type of work they used to promote their blades and was raked over the coals by Mick and company.

that kind of surprises me. do you mind posting the details?
 
I always have some weird feelings about warranty. If u use a knife for the purpose it is intended to, meaning cutting materials that is softer then the steel it is made of, in the direction of the cutting edge, and u use the knife as a knife how can u break a high quality knife? I think some people tend to get careless when they buy a knive with an unlimited warranty and they use it ,but not as a KNIFE. I have a CS Kukri, crappy thing, but sharp and it cuts wood good. I was cutting some wood and hit the concrete slab underneath the log. It made a small dent in the edge. Do i send the knife to Cold Steel? Do i start to complain? Do i yell CRAPPY knife? No, because knives are not designed to cut concrete! I was just stupid. I saw a test where they used a Busse to cut a brick. Wow, good steel, good knife, but what kind of a moron would use a Busse to break bricks IRL? People who do that should get their ass whipped with a Sjambok, because it is NOT a hammer! All steel will break, and will wear away sometime. I feel that the manufacturer should abuse their products to give it a safety margin where a knife will not break due to material failure under more then normal conditions to give the user a "safety margin". Why anyone would try to copy those torture tests just to see if they can break it, should NOT receive their money back. If i drop my Spyderco Civilian on a concrete floor the point will probably snap off, because i understand that dropping a Spyderco Civilian on it's tip on concrete is not considered as "normal use", and the Civilian, nor any other Spyderco product i know off is designed from the vieuwpoint that it should be dropped on concrete as a matter of normal use.

I see the Busse , SWRK, Striders as knives that have a "built in" safety margin that is higher then other manufacturers, and this translates into the design, size and type of steel, and the price!

These knives are designed for military, law enforcement, and special forces "operatives" or Survival situations that could need a knife that has to withstand higher then normal wear and tear. U will pay a higher price for it, and if u break such a knife under "wartime" conditions , freeing wounded personnel out of a burning car/ helicopter, collapsed trenches, fallen tree's, a bear attack or whatever ,your knife will be replaced by them. Not because you are an idiot who uses his knife because he is too lazy to get his crowbar out of the truck to move a 500 pound manhole cover.
 
The other thing about such a warranty is that it is in a way a Ponzi scheme. In the sense that revenues from new purchases are used to finance past warranty promises made. So what happens if a manufacturer stops selling knives?
 
cognitivefun said:
The other thing about such a warranty is that it is in a way a Ponzi scheme. In the sense that revenues from new purchases are used to finance past warranty promises made. So what happens if a manufacturer stops selling knives?

This statement assumes some things about: 1) numbers of "failures" of the product; 2) warranty claims; 3) administration of warranty claims; and 4) the cash flow of the business. You could be right - or wrong.

In any event, when manufacturers go down, warranty claims are often problematical. No promise is any better than the ability of the promisor to keep it. (See "Guaranteed Forever" [and laugh].)
 
Benchmade has a great warranty. They state that they do not cover abuse and misuse, and in some cases they don't, but they will go pretty far to take care of any problem regardless of how it happened.
 
BurkStar said:
Cliff, if I remember right, didn't Strider replace that knife for you?
I seem to have the same recollection.:confused:

Strider's warranty is one of the best in the business. They may get pissed when they have to eat a replacement for a knife seriously abused, but they do it time and time again.......
 
No they never replaced it as I never sent it in to them. It was given to me for a review in the first place and I would never seek a warrenty replacement on that class of blade. Plus I intended to load the blade until it cracked as I wanted to see how far it went and how it cracked. It broke as I expected it would for its type of steel.

After over a hundred reviews, and a fair amount of damaged knives, there have only been a handful of blades I actually attempted to use the warrenty (Tusk, Rtak, Machax, Survival Bowie, Buck/Strider folder are all that come to mind). I would only seek a replacement on a review knife if the maker thought it was a defect and wanted to have work done on a more representative blade. Same goes in general, unless I think its a defect I don't engage the warrenty.

However my point was their reaction to the work was to attack and insult, both me personally and the methods when they had done the *exact same thing* themselves for years and used other similar work to promote their knives in the past, and frankly were far more extreme at times. This is the same company that promoted thier knives as prybars specifically saying how other knives broke and thiers didn't and cut into metals and concrete, hit them with hard objects, pounded them into cracks in rocks etc. .

There is no way you can even begin to place them in the same class with regards to warrenty and customer service with Busse, Swamp Rat, HI, etc. .

-Cliff
 
Cliff Stamp said:
Does not have that type of warrenty. I broke one of their blades doing exactly the type of work they used to promote their blades and was raked over the coals by Mick and company. In contrast I have used khukuris from Bill much harder, blades from Busse, Swamp rat etc., with no where near that level of attitude. The warrenties are *NOT* the same in practice.

-Cliff

BALONEY! I don't believe that!
 
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