whose warranties cover unintentional abuse/breakage?

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I stand behind my orignal post...Strider Knives have the BEST warranty!

Why people choose to intentionally BREAK knives just to see if they can is beyond me. These are the same people that probably don't even NEED a knife in the first place.

If you somehow manage to break a Strider knife during actual USE, even if that could be called ABUSE, Strider WILL fix the knife for NO CHARGE other than shipping. They don't build knives for Armchair commandos to sit around and try to impress their friends that they BROKE a Strider knife. They are made for actual use in the Real world, Military and otherwise, and can take more &%#@ than most knives should ever be expected to!

If you don't own a Strider, I would seriously suggest getting one. That is, if you don't mind being spoiled in a way that MOST other knives cannot even fathom...

And NO, I do not work or have any affiliation with Strider Knives. I am just an individual who knows a quality product when I see it. I love my Sebenzas ALMOST as much, but for heavy duty use, and putting my life on the line, I will choose a Strider every time...
 
Fool4Blades said:
I stand behind my orignal post...Strider Knives have the BEST warranty!
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The BEST because you say that they do, or is there some other reason? Please, explain this further. Tell us how the warranty offered on Strider knives is superior to other similar warranty policies. You saying that it is the BEST without any sort of reasons why this is so is not too enlightening.

Intentionally stressing (and ocasionally breaking) knives may not make any sense to you, but to some people it is an interesting engineering exercise. I know guys who try to see how much torque they can put through a car's transmission before they scatter it, partially for the fun of it but partially to get a better idea of:
1)what designs work and what do not work
2)where the weak link is in various designs and how it could be improved
Of course, once you tear a transmission up on purpose you don't expect GM or Subaru to replace it for you.

Regardless of the (realtively meaningless) advertising that you've provided us with, a knife is just a formed piece of metal, like a transmission, or a doorknob, or a screwdriver. Claims of superiority require explaination and evidence, not anecdotes and hardcore lingo.
 
If you put your knife in a vise and slam on it with a sledge hammer, then you probably don't appreciate it enough to deserve it. Intentionally breaking materials that Mick spent hours grinding is a bitch move, and intentionally stressing his unconditional warranty is an even bigger one.
 
Isn't the definition of warranty -
A guarantee given to the purchaser by a company stating that a product is reliable and free from known defects and that the seller will, without charge, repair or replace defective parts within a given time limit and under certain conditions.
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So, if it wasn't a damn defect, then they don't really need to replace it. They have in the past, but if you're intentionally breaking blades, then you don't deserve a damn replacement.

Grow up.
 
In my first post, I wrote "I'm not talking about intentionally destroying a knife just to do it."

I'm asking which companies would replace a knife that was damaged in an abusive situation, where the knife is being over-used, but not just breaking it for kicks.

So far it sounds like Strider, Swamp Rat and Busse?
 
strider's warrantee doesn't work quite as you all are thinking.


they have an incredible warrantee as far as damaged/broken knives go. if you damage it or break it due to use or even abuse, it gets repaired/replaced, no questions asked.

however, if you choose to abuse their warantee in an obvious way, they will still fix/replace the knife as promised, but they stamp the handle under the cordwrap with something. afterwords, this knife cannot be replaced. this is how i understand it.

their definition of "abuse" is VERY forgiving. i think you would have had to do something in very poor taste to make them retract the warantee.



i once broke the tip off my strider, not intentionally, but definately doing something very stupid. it was replaced, no questions asked.


strider is still the best and my experiences are proof enough for me.
 
Midget said:
strider's warrantee doesn't work quite as you all are thinking.


they have an incredible warrantee as far as damaged/broken knives go. if you damage it or break it due to use or even abuse, it gets repaired/replaced, no questions asked.

however, if you choose to abuse their warantee in an obvious way, they will still fix/replace the knife as promised, but they stamp the handle under the cordwrap with something. afterwords, this knife cannot be replaced. this is how i understand it.

their definition of "abuse" is VERY forgiving. i think you would have had to do something in very poor taste to make them retract the warantee.



i once broke the tip off my strider, not intentionally, but definately doing something very stupid. it was replaced, no questions asked.


strider is still the best and my experiences are proof enough for me.
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Exactly correct. Strider builds one of the best products made in America today. Their warranty reflects that product. Others may have equally excellent products and warranties, but I have experience only with Striders.
 
Fool4Blades said:
I stand behind my orignal post...Strider Knives have the BEST warranty!

Why people choose to intentionally BREAK knives just to see if they can is beyond me. These are the same people that probably don't even NEED a knife in the first place.

If you somehow manage to break a Strider knife during actual USE, even if that could be called ABUSE, Strider WILL fix the knife for NO CHARGE other than shipping. They don't build knives for Armchair commandos to sit around and try to impress their friends that they BROKE a Strider knife. They are made for actual use in the Real world, Military and otherwise, and can take more &%#@ than most knives should ever be expected to!

If you don't own a Strider, I would seriously suggest getting one. That is, if you don't mind being spoiled in a way that MOST other knives cannot even fathom...

And NO, I do not work or have any affiliation with Strider Knives. I am just an individual who knows a quality product when I see it. I love my Sebenzas ALMOST as much, but for heavy duty use, and putting my life on the line, I will choose a Strider every time...
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Posts like these really annoy me. Not enough explanation. For one thing, in order for you to assess the warranty of a company you must have used the warranty before. If you haven't then you really have no experience of their warranty other than what's stated on a website or brochure. How you came to the conclusion that STRIDER has a better warranty than Swamp Rat or Busse i have no idea. Have you owned knives by Swamp Rat or Busse and claimed their warranty?

What i would have said is that Strider has one of the best warranties in the business. But so does Busse and Swamp Rat. Swamp Rat even claims that if you actually spoil it doing any of the tests/demonstrations that they have done they will replace it. Even if you were chopping a concrete block like they did in one of the demonstrations!

You can't say something is the best if you haven't tried the rest!

If you have, then i stand corrected.
 
It dosent get better than a Strider....I just own to many knives and always drift back to my striders when a hardcore blade is needed :-) To funny :-). Im a big Busse fan as well BUT Mick is king of the hill as far as durability and Customer Loyality are concerned.... IMHO.
Loandr.
 
I don't want to get into a debate, because I trust the warranty on my Swamp Rat and HI stuff just as much as my Strider, but if I know one thing it is that if I have my SnG in my pocket I can tackle anything. If there is a problem afterward, then I can take it up with Strider.

Use (or abuse) is one thing, stress testing is another.
 
Midget said:
their definition of "abuse" is VERY forgiving.
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Hardly, it doesn't even cover the promoted use. They were the guys pounding on them with sledges into rock faces. Don't claim it if your knife can't do it. That isn't the best warrenty. If you break a Busse, or HI, or any of any number of makers doing what the knife was promoted to do, you don't get the same reaction from Strider that I did.

It also doesn't make them the best just by saying it. Compare their knives to others and see what happens. Sorry but S30V isn't the toughest steel on the market, it isn't even close. It has low flexibility and impact toughness. if you think otherwise you simply have not used much steel.

-Cliff
 
Boy I don't know about knives but I destroyed a zippo by running it over with my truck and I sent it back to them, well I sent the pieced back to them and they replaced it no questions asked, even sent me 3 new flints.

Sorry I know this reply is OT... Oh well ;)
 
Strider Knives have the BEST warranty!
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If you say so... :rolleyes:

In my experience, Swamp Rat Knife Works has the most complete warranty in the bussiness.

I broke a Battle Rat about two years ago and had a new one in less than a week. No conditions, no marked blade, just honorable service.

I have not had a reason to use the Strider warrenty, but I would expect the same treatment from Mick and his people.

On a side note, I like what Cliff Stamp does to knives, even if it is a little hard to watch sometimes. It shows the point at which a given blade can be expected to fail. This is invaluable information and could save your life.
 
Since there is so much Strider talk in this thread I have a Strider question that maybe someone can help me with. I lurk a lot on many of the knife related forums and I do a lot of reading on performance and I've never seen any testing information posted by Strider on their knives. I've looked for testing data and supporting pictures that show what can be expected as far as performance goes with Strider knives.

I've found information about many of the other hard-core type knives, Busse has posted information about their testing. Fehrman posted some info last year on lateral flex of one of their blades. Even Swamp Rat frequently posts their testing info and pictures, but I've never been able to find anything like this for Strider.

If anyone can post some links to such data I'd love to see it.

Thanks
Joel
 
nelsonmc said:
Boy I don't know about knives but I destroyed a zippo by running it over with my truck and I sent it back to them, well I sent the pieced back to them and they replaced it no questions asked, even sent me 3 new flints.
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Zippo's warrenty is what its all about. My wife and I were going to Niagra Falls a couple years ago and stopped by the Zippo/Case factory to check it out. My wife had an old broke zippo in the car so we got it out and handed it to them with our address and it was waiting on us when we returned home like new. They also had some zippos on display from warrenty repairs. I wouldn't believe some of the ones that were returned to this place, but they all get repaired/replaced, no questions asked.


I never knew Case and Zippo were affiliated until we stopped by.
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TheBadGuy said:
I never knew Case and Zippo were affiliated until we stopped by.
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Case was going to go out of business and get bought up by a Japanese company when Zippo bought them out. Case helped Zippo get started, so Zippo returned the favor and saved Case when they were in trouble.
 
In 2001 my home was burglarized, in the process the idiots tried to use my cold steel voyager to pry open my gun safe. All they accomplished was to break the tip off the knife. They were all caught i am glad to say and no one was harmed.
A few months later i called cold steel up and was ordering a few knives and mentioned what had happened to the fellow taking the order. He said since it wasnt my fault he would gladly replace it at no charge, just to mail the old one in to them.
I thought this was a very nice gesture on their part.
Reminds me of Smith and Wesson whose customer service isnt matched by anyone that i know of and i have had several dealing with them in the past.
 
Hmmmmmm.

Interesting thread.

Ginsu knife guarantee says:

"if the knife ever breaks, is damaged or becomes dull, even if the damage is your own falult, it will be replaced for as long as you live." ;)

Kia has a better guarantee than Mercedes or Lexus. :rolleyes:

It is just my opinion (don't flame me), but maybe there is more to the "Warrantee thing" than meets the eye.

sal
 
Sal Glesser said:
Ginsu knife guarantee says:
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It is easy to put a heavy warrenty on a knife which cost 0.50$ to make. When the price is $150+, it means something a little different.

-Cliff
 
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