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Why a swedge or clip point with false edge, makes no sense??

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Houlahound, Jul 4, 2019.

  1. Houlahound


    Aug 2, 2017
  2. SVTFreak

    SVTFreak Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 8, 2011
    Cause it looks good. If everyone liked the same thing, there would be one knife, no options, nothing. Strictly a matter of taste.
  3. Rykjeklut

    Rykjeklut Basic Member Basic Member

    May 23, 2018
    ^that. Like it on some knives, don't like it on others.
    Steve6387 likes this.
  4. A.L.


    Jun 27, 2007
    Because it makes makes better piercer, even without edge. Marginally.
    AntDog, cwsmith17, Alberta Ed and 2 others like this.
  5. Houlahound


    Aug 2, 2017
    If folks like the look have the best of both worlds and put a sharp edge on the false edge.

    You maintain the same look and gain functionally - not even anyone can deny.
  6. GIRLYmann


    Nov 7, 2005
    "the spear point is essentially for piercing... a swedge would enhance penetration...
    however a sharpen swedge impedes batoning ... "
    The above would be a sufficient enough explanation to most folks;
    but the real reason behind the false edge is probably
    a way of skirting legalities to enable commercial sale.
    Alternatively, this edgeless swedge condition exist purely
    as a result of some age old dark conspiracy
    secretly agreed upon by manufacturers
    which somehow winds up today
    as some form of widely accepted manufacturing practice
    which is now simply misconstrued by many
    as some wise after thought of commercial decision
    for survivalist to somehow baton with :)
    Besides nobody has time for any additional form of sharpening
    as it just takes all away the fun of actual use!
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  7. Houlahound


    Aug 2, 2017
    ^ I think you are on to sumthin.

    Also these survival types need to learn that wood splitting is best left to an axe or hatchet.......like every pioneer and frontiersman everywhere knew for centuries then viola man lands on the moon and every weekend warrior starts cutting down trees and splitting logs with knives.
  8. GatorFlash1

    GatorFlash1 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 28, 2012
    It makes the knife lighter to carry.
    GIRLYmann likes this.
  9. b00n

    b00n Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 15, 2016
    And you don't want a sharpened swedge sticking out of a folder with that style of blade.
  10. jmh33

    jmh33 Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 16, 2003
    This gave me a chuckle this am..:D Thanks for that!!!;)
  11. Mick_1KRR


    May 1, 2016
    Why a crowned spine?
    Why jimping too smooth/shallow to have traction?
    Why overly thick stock?
    Why bearings when washers work just fine?
    Why carbon fiber when g10?
    Why coloured g10?
    Why do Benchmade make $1200 cigar cutters instead of bringing out actual knives that are worth a dam?
    Cos it's a hobby and variety.
    And a touch of insanity...... Benchmade
  12. Insipid Moniker

    Insipid Moniker Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 28, 2011
    Double edge can be illegal or impractical. And a LOT of this hobby is driven by aesthetics without practical applications. I love harpoon-style points and I have no earthly reason to use one, just dig 'em.

    But, if properly done, a swedge can also give the end user the option of sharpening it up. I'm currently drooling over a Buck 212, so I'm in no place to criticize those who like a nice swedge. ;)
    AntDog, Hackenslash, craytab and 2 others like this.
  13. CVamberbonehead


    Nov 6, 2017
    It lightens the blade, looks cool and thins down the point for better piercing while retaining some strength. Supposedly. Lol
  14. eveled

    eveled Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 11, 2016
    Better for piercing stronger tip. Lightens the blade. Looks good. Biggest plus in my book. It leaves the option open to the end user to sharpen it or not.

    No reason not to do it other than batoning.

    Makes me wonder if it is a message from the manufacturer “Do Not Baton”. A froe is for batoning.
  15. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    This reflects my thoughts. A sharpened swedge IS a double edged knife. The purpose is mostly piercing and the wound associated with that. A false edge is mostly for looks and allows for a sharper point. Example > clip blade. A bowie knife is essentially just a bigger clip style blade.

    I doubt that batoning a knife was a big concern for outdoorsmen 100 or 200 years ago as they had a hatchet or axe. But I would be willing to bet that knives have been batoned for ages.
  16. gazz98

    gazz98 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 3, 2008
    I agree with IM. A sharpened swedge can be considered double edge and that is illegal here in MI.
  17. McFeeli


    Feb 13, 2017
    Swedges are one aspect I love on my knives. Especially traditionals. They look great and are functional. I’ve always liked needle point tips, and swedges do the trick. It allows for a thinner tip while keeping the blade stock the same, so it’s a win-win in my eyes.


    Did I mention they look great?
  18. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    Are daggers legal where you live? They aren't here and we have fairly favorable knife laws. Something to consider.
  19. Lesknife

    Lesknife Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 31, 2018
    In some applications that swedge or false edge also makes it easier to slip the tip under a tight fitting strap or narrow opening to cut or relieve pressure. On clip points I find it’s better for making more precise round hole cuts in various materials where as the flat top clip point makes more of a rough gouge. I like them.
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  20. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
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