Why a tanto tip?

[mossyoakpenn]

If I am in the woods and a bear attacks, I want to have a fast motorcycle to run away....

If a bear attacked you in the woods and you had a motorcycle, why would you run away?

 

[VanDro]

Wooooooo Go Americanized Everything ! ! ! ! ! ! !

 

[Lycosa]

HMMM....I think a Japanese blade a has a tad bit more experience, having a thousand year-old tradition and all.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Nothing changes? Nothing new works?
Stone tablets are more experienced than the internet for communication?

 

[Lycosa]

Improving a "classic?" Ask Coca- Cola.

 

[Zeasor]

Technology changes allowing for new designs. Whether form follows function or follows a myriad of other motivations is unimportant because we all have choices. Coca Cola could have sold their "new coke" if it was the only soft drink on the market. Choose the design that suits YOUR purpose, be it function (you are actually going to stab a truck or scrape decals) or form (it will look good hang on your wall/belt). Choices please the masses, just a fact of life/economy.

 

[Lycosa]

YEAH, Zeasor!!! YEAH!!!

 

[Goemon1973]

Forgive me.... I try to translate what I think, and I surely make mistakes....
How good is your italian ? ( I'm kidding )

Anyway...

I try to translate an Italian proverb:

It's better to get scared than to get beaten ;-)

 

[Goemon1973]

If a bear attacked you in the woods and you had a motorcycle, why would you run away?

( I referred to this one.... )

 

[nozh2002]

I've seen it stated in almost every discussion about tantos that they are great for penetration.In looking at them,I can't really see why a tanto would penetrate any better than a clip or spear point w/swedge or even say a double edged dagger type of tip.What makes the tanto tip so good?

First of all Tanto is creation of marketing which has nothing to do with Japanese short swords (Tan - short, To - swords). Tanto knife - is like short sword knife. About tanto point:

http://www.swordforum.com/sfu/japanese/americanized.html

So to me really there is no point to discuss further whatever marketing drons came up with...

Thanks, Vassili.

 

[Lycosa]

THANKS, Vassili!! These "Tanto" Threads drive me nuts! And that's a short putt!!

 

[SShepherd]

Traditional japanese knife for preparing Unagi

 

[Lycosa]

The Japanese blade did offer a straight edge point, true: fukura-kareru. The curved edge, fukura-tsuku, was more popular.

 

[topher]

I honestly doubt any other tip configuration would have handled so much silly abuse(stabbed some trees, too).
A dagger is "stabbier", and a good curved blade will stab better in reverse grip, but for plain toughness(and paint scraping), you can't beat a gool ol' Americanized Tanto tip.:thumbup:

One word: Razel ;-)

 

[nozh2002]

Traditional japanese knife for preparing Unagi

This example does not looks like traditional Japanese knife to me. Handle shape just way different then what they doing in Japan. To me this is bad imitation.

Here shot I made in Kukihide shop in Yokohama - nothing like this.

As well as www.dick.biz do not have anithing like this.

I really doubt this is real Japanese knife.

Now if you check any Leuku you may see same tip strong for penetration without this silly sharp corner, which make blade useless.

Thanks, Vassili.

 

[eatingmuchface]

sorry, I didn't read the whole thread, so... sorry if this has already been stated but...
all tips are different, some (clip or drop points) can be very thick like tantos, other may not be...
thats all their is to it.
and in general Tantos don't penatrate better.
as far as from what I've heard and read and discussed.

 

[eatingmuchface]

oh and about that "traditional japanese knife"...
why does it have an american Tanto tip?
real japanese Tantos are shaped much differently.

 

[Enjoy the blades]

So, if you are in the woods and a bear attacks wearing body armor, you want to have a tanto point. As others have said, the tanto design is a stronger tip less likely to break when piercing harder targets, hitting bone, etc.

Damn! I knew it! I told my girlfriend that stink'in bear looked like he was wearing a vest under his fur!

 

[SShepherd]

1 simple google search will come up with this:

http://www.mizunotanrenjo.jp/shop/search_e.cgi?&file=E.01&strings=EDOSAKI

http://www.japanesechefsknife.com/HSSeriesHonyakiGyokuhakukou.html

http://itkitchenknife.com/japanese.shtml

and finally...
http://www.practicallyedible.com/ed...s!opendocument&keyword=Unagisaki+Hocho+Knives

Unagisaki Hocho Knives

An Unagisaki Hocho Knife is a special knife for filleting eel.

The blade would be rectangular, except its nose is a straight 45 degree angle from top to bottom. This creates a sharp tip or piercing the head of an eel, and then dragging the knife along its body to slice it open along its entire length in one continuous motion.

The blade style varies slightly in Kyoto, Nagoya and Osaka.


Next time you doubt it, use google

 

[SShepherd]

This example does not looks like traditional Japanese knife to me. Handle shape just way different then what they doing in Japan. To me this is bad imitation.

Here shot I made in Kukihide shop in Yokohama - nothing like this.

As well as www.dick.biz do not have anithing like this.

I really doubt this is real Japanese knife.

Now if you check any Leuku you may see same tip strong for penetration without this silly sharp corner, which make blade useless.

Thanks, Vassili.

Just because the handles on santouko, deba and yanagiba knives have the same handle..doesnt mean ALL japanese kitchen knives are.
I'm sure you won't find his at that store either:
http://www.mizunotanrenjo.jp/shop/search_e.cgi?&file=E.01&strings=UDONGIRI
Thats used for cutting udon.