Why are people selling their CRKs?

asdf12345 said:
I hear praise ad nauseum for the Chris Reeve folders, so why are they being sold so often? I see several up for sale nearly every day. If the knives are so good in every way why are they being sold so often in barely used condition?
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You'll find a lot of people go through knives like car leases. The nice thing is that CRK hold their value well so if you buy one and don't really like it, you can generally recoup most of your money.
CRK are nice knives but they're not everyones cup of tea especially since they're pretty plain jane as far as high end productions go and you see people going for really busy designs with funky grinds
 
Quiet said:
Sweet, another Sebenza hater's thread! Always love when these roll around. :thumbup:

It's like a drinking game. Every time some goon uses the word "hype", TAKE A SHOT!
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I used the word "hype" in one of my posts without any negative connotation whatsoever. Does that merit a shot?
 
Tasmaniac said:
I used the word "hype" in one of my posts without any negative connotation whatsoever. Does that merit a shot?
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No, you're alright (and it's really too early to be playing drinking games anyway!). I just love how some folks (usually those with low post counts) have to slam what other people enjoy in order to make themselves feel better, so I always feel the need to make a snide comment in what, if we're being honest, is little more than a troll thread.

CRK has been around for a very long time, turning out quality products that ARE worth every penny they cost, regardless of what folks care to believe or not believe. They'll still be here doing so years from now. People know a quality product, and those who don't, well they're free to buy something else.

All I can say is, someone above made some comment about CRK's not being high quality (which the guy prefers). What a laugh, gotta love the attempted condescension. Not high quality? I'll put this knife:

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up against anything in that guy's collection and it will be as high quality or better quality than anything that guy owns.

Folks, if you don't like CRK's, that's fine. They're not for you, don't spend the money, and move on. But don't come in here and try to downtalk an exceptionally high quality product, because it just ends up sounding like sour grapes, or worse, that you have no idea what you're braying on about.
 
I always sell in order to buy, simple as that. As my wife puts it "pay to pet".
 
asdf12345 said:
I hear praise ad nauseum for the Chris Reeve folders, so why are they being sold so often? I see several up for sale nearly every day. If the knives are so good in every way why are they being sold so often in barely used condition?
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Great knives, but not so much better than cheaper options. So if funds need to be freed a Sabenza is not hard to sell. Not had to get either when funds are available.
 
I'm not sure what the intent of the OP was but I think some good answers have been given. I'll echo that the cost to 'try' the knife is low so if it's not for you then you can sell it and count the loss as a rental fee. I did that with Hinderer's, tried a few over the past few months and found the two that work for me. Didn't lose much, if any, in the process.

I would also add that these CRK's also SELL on the exchange. They don't sit around too long from what I've seen. Occasionally you'll have one that sits for a while but that's the exception and not he rule. Plus they can be refurbished so you don't know if they are NIB or have had spa treatment. Hope the owners are truthful though.
 
May I add that the Sebenza is one of the finest folders ever designed. Knife knuts will agree on this.
This alone, is worth owning a Sebenza, imo.
rolf
 
Tastes change and flow. I don't even know how many CRK's I've owned 6 or 8 maybe. I don't own one currently and I'm looking for an new Umnumzaan- second at least.

Since they hold their value there's little risk when evaluating them.

Mitch
 
Tastes change and flow. I don't even know how many CRK's I've owned 6 or 8 maybe. I don't own one currently and I'm looking for an new Umnumzaan- second at least.

Since they hold their value there's little risk when evaluating them.

Mitch
 
Quiet said:
No, you're alright (and it's really too early to be playing drinking games anyway!). I just love how some folks (usually those with low post counts) have to slam what other people enjoy in order to make themselves feel better, so I always feel the need to make a snide comment in what, if we're being honest, is little more than a troll thread.

CRK has been around for a very long time, turning out quality products that ARE worth every penny they cost, regardless of what folks care to believe or not believe. They'll still be here doing so years from now. People know a quality product, and those who don't, well they're free to buy something else.

All I can say is, someone above made some comment about CRK's not being high quality (which the guy prefers). What a laugh, gotta love the attempted condescension. Not high quality? I'll put this knife:

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up against anything in that guy's collection and it will be as high quality or better quality than anything that guy owns.

Folks, if you don't like CRK's, that's fine. They're not for you, don't spend the money, and move on. But don't come in here and try to downtalk an exceptionally high quality product, because it just ends up sounding like sour grapes, or worse, that you have no idea what you're braying on about.
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At no time did I question the quality or value of CRK. I was simply wondering why, if they are talked about with such praise, that they are sold so often compared to knives with similar quality and price. In any case a common answer seems to be that because of its easy resale it is considered a knife that is low-risk to try out and sell if it is not liked. This makes a lot of sense. Regarding your post, I would like to ask another question: if the product is so good why is any question of its quality or value met by opposition such as yours? "Worth every penny", "sour grapes", "unable to appreciate quality" and "reputation" are common themes. Or, as you say, everyone who detracts from the product (which I at no time did) has "no idea what they're braying on about"?
 
By the way, what's up with the hole on some of the Sebenza folders? Some of them have a hole on the frame..
 
asdf12345 said:
At no time did I question the quality or value of CRK. I was simply wondering why, if they are talked about with such praise, that they are sold so often compared to knives with similar quality and price. In any case a common answer seems to be that because of its easy resale it is considered a knife that is low-risk to try out and sell if it is not liked. This makes a lot of sense. Regarding your post, I would like to ask another question: if the product is so good why is any question of its quality or value met by opposition such as yours? "Worth every penny", "sour grapes", "unable to appreciate quality" and "reputation" are common themes. Or, as you say, everyone who detracts from the product (which I at no time did) has "no idea what they're braying on about"?
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I think tone is something lost in virtual communication. Your devils advocate responses to people's answers to your question seemed, to me, to contain a bit of an agenda. It's hard to determine what's someone's motives are when you don't know them and lack face to face interaction. You're new here so people don't have a gauge on your personality. I say read around for a bit and add to conversations and let people get to know you before you come in guns blazing. Nice to have you here.
 
asdf12345 said:
At no time did I question the quality or value of CRK.
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Not explicitly but rather implicitly. The "ad nauseum" snarkiness in the OP is a dead give away that you feel the product is overly defended by its aficionados.

asdf12345 said:
Regarding your post, I would like to ask another question: if the product is so good why is any question of its quality or value met by opposition such as yours? "Worth every penny", "sour grapes", "unable to appreciate quality" and "reputation" are common themes. Or, as you say, everyone who detracts from the product (which I at no time did) has "no idea what they're braying on about"?
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Again, you are cleverly disparaging the product's quality here. If I had any doubts as to the trollish nature of this thread they are long gone now.
 
Tasmaniac said:
Not explicitly but rather implicitly. The "ad nauseum" snarkiness in the OP is a dead give away that you feel the product is overly defended by its aficionados.



Again, you are cleverly disparaging the product's quality here. If I had any doubts as to the trollish nature of this thread they are long gone now.
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Could you please reply with actual answers? Why do you think everything I say is an attack on the product?

The purpose of this post was just curiosity. I am in the production folders for sale forum a lot and I constantly see CRKs. I don't have a problem with CRK. I like CRK knives too and in fact I might get one come Christmas. But I just thought it was odd that so many were being sold if their quality is talked about with no end in sight. Every knife thread: Sebenza, sebenza, sebenza. Just because I think it's a little nauseating that the knife is talked about so much doesn't mean I have a problem with the knife itself.
 
asdf12345 said:
At no time did I question the quality or value of CRK. I was simply wondering why, if they are talked about with such praise, that they are sold so often compared to knives with similar quality and price. In any case a common answer seems to be that because of its easy resale it is considered a knife that is low-risk to try out and sell if it is not liked. This makes a lot of sense. Regarding your post, I would like to ask another question: if the product is so good why is any question of its quality or value met by opposition such as yours? "Worth every penny", "sour grapes", "unable to appreciate quality" and "reputation" are common themes. Or, as you say, everyone who detracts from the product (which I at no time did) has "no idea what they're braying on about"?
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I wasn't referring to you with my comment on quality, but on another post on the second page. Like, come on, who are we trying to kid here? CRKs are absolutely high quality, there's a reason why they continue to win so many awards, and hint: it's not "hype". That's not opinion, or "hype", that's a fact.

To answer your question, the simple answer is because I don't like people using poor logic. Tell me, which is a better way to say something?

1. "Eh, that item isn't to my taste, but I understand that others like it."
2. "That item is totally not worth the money, and people who think it have bought into the hype!"

Do you see my point? The tone of your other posts in this thread you started tell me that you probably won't. You're a huge fan of loaded, leading questions, so here's one I think you should be asking yourself: "Man, with all these common themes*, wonder if there's something there after all?"

Look, I'll be blunt. Your initial post demonstrates a poor train of logic. In short: "Well, if something is so awesome, why do people get them and sell them? Huh??? Maybe they AREN'T awesome, huh??". Actually, what's not awesome is the poor deductive reasoning that led to your position, an insinuation that because people sell something, then it must be not-as-good-as-everyone-says-it-is.

That's essentially the point you tried to make, and therefore, you shouldn't be surprised when some of us have easily seen through to your actual purpose for creating this thread (trashing CRK knives), and responded as such. If you don't like them, here's an idea. Follow suggestion #1 above and take the high road.




*To use your term.
 
asdf12345 said:
Could you please reply with actual answers? Why do you think everything I say is an attack on the product?

The purpose of this post was just curiosity. I am in the production folders for sale forum a lot and I constantly see CRKs. I don't have a problem with CRK. I like CRK knives too and in fact I might get one come Christmas. But I just thought it was odd that so many were being sold if their quality is talked about with no end in sight. Every knife thread: Sebenza, sebenza, sebenza. Just because I think it's a little nauseating that the knife is talked about so much doesn't mean I have a problem with the knife itself.
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That is a pretty disingenuous of you, to try to backtrack when the tone of your posts have made it clear what your actual position is. You're off to a tremendous start here, new guy. :thumbup:
 
not2sharp said:
Don't feed the troll.

n2s
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+1

Asdf12345, don't know if you came to this forum to share in a common interest or stir the pot. Your user name could suggest the latter. If it's the former then take my advice from above as your question has been answered and move on. Either way good luck to you.
 
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