Why are people selling their CRKs?

Quiet said:
I wasn't referring to you with my comment on quality, but on another post on the second page. Like, come on, who are we trying to kid here? CRKs are absolutely high quality, there's a reason why they continue to win so many awards, and hint: it's not "hype". That's not opinion, or "hype", that's a fact.

To answer your question, the simple answer is because I don't like people using poor logic. Tell me, which is a better way to say something?

1. "Eh, that item isn't to my taste, but I understand that others like it."
2. "That item is totally not worth the money, and people who think it have bought into the hype!"

Do you see my point? The tone of your other posts in this thread you started tell me that you probably won't. You're a huge fan of loaded, leading questions, so here's one I think you should be asking yourself: "Man, with all these common themes*, wonder if there's something there after all?"

Look, I'll be blunt. Your initial post demonstrates a poor train of logic. In short: "Well, if something is so awesome, why do people get them and sell them? Huh??? Maybe they AREN'T awesome, huh??". Actually, what's not awesome is the poor deductive reasoning that led to your position, an insinuation that because people sell something, then it must be not-as-good-as-everyone-says-it-is.

That's essentially the point you tried to make, and therefore, you shouldn't be surprised when some of us have easily seen through to your actual purpose for creating this thread (trashing CRK knives), and responded as such. If you don't like them, here's an idea. Follow suggestion #1 above and take the high road.




*To use your term.
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You are putting words in my mouth and then attacking those words. You criticize my tone for insinuating that the product is not good, but your tone insinuates that I have an agenda against you and your knives. Can you address the question of why CRKs are so fiercely defended? Why is it deemed necessary? I have heard so much about CRKs that they really should speak for themselves at this point and no commentary should be necessary.
 
Quiet said:
That is a pretty disingenuous of you, to try to backtrack when the tone of your posts have made it clear what your actual position is. You're off to a tremendous start here, new guy. :thumbup:
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Let's say there's a car that everyone who knows anything about cars talks about constantly. They talk about what great mileage it gets, how smooth the transmission is, how it almost never needs service, how it will last for a long time, and how it is beautiful and truly worth the price. And then you go onto Craigslist and almost 1/3 of all the cars sold is that very car. Wouldn't this seem a bit odd to you regardless of how well the product lives up to its reputation? If someone asked you, "Hey, how come all these guys are selling their cars with almost zero miles on them", would you tell them, "Hey, don't trash the car. It's a good car".
 
asdf12345 said:
You are putting words in my mouth and then attacking those words. You criticize my tone for insinuating that the product is not good, but your tone insinuates that I have an agenda against you and your knives. Can you address the question of why CRKs are so fiercely defended? Why is it deemed necessary? I have heard so much about CRKs that they really should speak for themselves at this point and no commentary should be necessary.
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Can you answer the question of why you keep asking loaded, leading, insinuating questions?

asdf12345 said:
Let's say there's a car that everyone who knows anything about cars talks about constantly. They talk about what great mileage it gets, how smooth the transmission is, how it almost never needs service, how it will last for a long time, and how it is beautiful and truly worth the price. And then you go onto Craigslist and almost 1/3 of all the cars sold is that very car. Wouldn't this seem a bit odd to you regardless of how well the product lives up to its reputation? If someone asked you, "Hey, how come all these guys are selling their cars with almost zero miles on them", would you tell them, "Hey, don't trash the car. It's a good car".
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No, I'd tell them that there are any number of reasons, and your insinuations* that the car must not be as good after all, are poorly thought out.

I mean, are you serious with this nonsense? Why do people sell ANYthing? Poor logic is poor logic.

Anyway, enough of my time has been wasted on a trolling member with an obviously throwaway username, so I'm done here.





*That your repeated denial doesn't change the fact of
 
asdf12345 said:
I hear praise ad nauseum for the Chris Reeve folders, so why are they being sold so often? I see several up for sale nearly every day. If the knives are so good in every way why are they being sold so often in barely used condition?
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Maybe they cost just enough that many are uncomfortable using them. They invest in a tool they are scared to damage.
IMO, high end knives like they are(deservedly !), are bought by many that truly cannot afford them.
Too many people cannot manage their money, and like other high end item, they find they must sell them once the bills start adding up. Luckily, CRK retain value.
 
asdf12345 said:
Let's say there's a car that everyone who knows anything about cars talks about constantly. They talk about what great mileage it gets, how smooth the transmission is, how it almost never needs service, how it will last for a long time, and how it is beautiful and truly worth the price. And then you go onto Craigslist and almost 1/3 of all the cars sold is that very car. Wouldn't this seem a bit odd to you regardless of how well the product lives up to its reputation? If someone asked you, "Hey, how come all these guys are selling their cars with almost zero miles on them", would you tell them, "Hey, don't trash the car. It's a good car".
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You've obviously never shopped for cars. Ever looked at BMW?
 
I believe our lousy economy is also a factor as I feel that many would not sell their CRKs if they did not need the money.
 
And it's a win for keyboard boy. 67 sincere answers to the crap stirrier's obvious troll. Oops. Make that 68.
 
MSgt said:
I believe our lousy economy is also a factor as I feel that many would not sell their CRKs if they did not need the money.
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I agree.

A few moths ago I was in a bind for cash and contemplated selling off my Sebenza and a few Striders.
I needed cash quickly and most other knives I own only retain a fraction of their value.

( I eventually came to my senses) :)
 
There are some great points in this thread and all seem very relevant, but I think to answer the OPs question it boils down to 3 things;

Resale Value: Everyone already said it and it's true. A sebbie will sell for most of what you put into it. There is little risk to buying a sebbie just to check it out.

Refined Tolerances: This is where most are underwhelmed(including me). Tight tolerances doesn't mean shocking style(Carrillo) or invigorating lines(GTC). The sebbie could be called "graceful" in its own way. It's a highly produced midtech. It's shows exactly what a midtech is supposed to, the tremendous ability of machines to produce identical knives with tight tolerances. The Sevenza will always be a high quality knife machined to exacting standards.

Cutting power: Most users will not be able to tell the difference between a Sebenza and a Spyderco in daily cutting chores. The same argument can be made for many other knives but that is where style and intriguing design come in to play. Both of which could be summarized as lacking in the sebenza.
 
Funny how all those terrible knives get purchased. Funny how those low quality knives almost always win the quality award.
 
It blows my mind how many people get upset about the way someone else spends their money.
 
I have one for sale now, its not a coincidence..... I state right in my thread that i bought some other knives and want to recoup.....whatever doom and gloom point you are trying to prove i dont get. I bought mine used. I have owned several. I sell them to continue what i believe is a fun hobby. They are great knives ........awesome knives that hold their value quite well............i will buy another im sure.......and im sorry that me trying to sell one annoys you, but the guy who buys it will be happy.
 
I absolutely love Sebenzas large and small, Mnandis, Insingos, inlaid, fancy or plain…….but I have never owned one and have no plans to ever own one. What I love about them is the fact that I have made many, MANY fully leather lined exotic leather pocket sheaths both with and without a pocket clip to help keep them in as pristine condition as possible while being used. Long live CRK!;)

Paul
 
Nice Paul, and one thing to point out, this is just a SMALL corner of the knife world we are in, while we deem this place cool and neat, there are so many people that never get here and do buy CRK's to keep. I doubt that CRK store is relying solely on our resources to keep them afloat ;)

It's one of those 'step back and take a look' kind of things.

and I have owned many many Sebenza's but I pay as I go and if I don't have funds for that next gem, something in the collection is sacrificed as I don't buy on credit, just never seemed like a good idea to me, so pay as I go is the rule and to do so, things need to be sold.

G2
 
asdf12345 said:
No one has still explained why so many are sold, and of those, why so many are near mint and "barely used". Are there that many people who try the knife out and decide it's not for them? And if that is the case why are they so highly regarded? .
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I'll take a stab at it. The products have a build-quality responsible for their reputation. The Sebenza is a knife that is frequently mentioned on grail-lists. It's a knife rarely seen at gunshows, or knife shops,where the sub-$100 products rule. Thus, I'm betting that Sebbies are largey ordered sight-unseen.

Now, when one gets their Sebbie, they may find they don't care for the feel of it in some manner (me). Don't like bare Ti scales as they thought they would. Think it's underwhelming in the 'bling' aspect. Can't see what all of the fuss is about, or any combination thereof....particularly at that $400 range they are priced at. Thus, they are back on the market.

Same reasoning can apply to a whole host of other knives that are likely only available to most of the masses via mail-order.
 
OP, you must not be reading all the posts in your own thread because I've read loads of reasons why people have decided to sell theirs.

Do me a favor - read through them again and stop posting the same damn question every time you post.
 
I've never owned a Sebbie but they sure look like damn fine knives. I'll probably never be able to afford one, but that doesn't make me feel any resentment towards those who can (damn cake-eaters :p)

Oh and I'm just gonna leave this here...

 
Sebenza's are pretty easy to obtain if one wants to pay full retail, also very easy to sell (high demand) and buying second hand one can save money, it's a win win..I know many CRK owners that own double and some triple of the same model, and end up flipping one or two to purchase other things they are collecting or need..CRK retain there value really well..It would be one thing if there was sebenzas all over the for sale section and none were being sold, but that is not the case, they get picked up QUICK..trust me, I missed out on getting a sebenza 25 four times in 2 weeks, lucky for me I found one and I slammed my name on it QUICK LOL..
 
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