Why are the Chris Reeve Knives 25th Anniversary Sebenza 2500$? Too expensive

[ukknifer]

Hi
2500$ is kinda steep.
Is this after market price or is it the price CRK priced them?
They are made of the same material as regular sebenzas Right?

 

[Gareth Bull]

The ones you're referring to are the special edition and are VERY limited regardless of the materials, the rarity and inherrent collectable value dictates the price. The plain jane 25 will be out soon and will be back down to the normal price bracket.

 

[Bastid]

Basic economics. If it sells as a set price - it is not too expensive.

 

[singularity35]

Kinda like a pirate membership...exclusivity.

 

[outlaw918692000]

Only 25 be being made. And they are a prototype.

 

[Danbo]

Because they can be. Somebody will pay it. Not me, but somebody will. Therefore, it's not too expensive.

 

[Moses2792796]

Simple answer, if you price something high enough some people will think that it must be worth said price. Their loss, I don't give a damn about 'collectibility' and cannot even begin to fathom what goes through the minds of people who would pay this much for a knife.

 

[syntaxerrorsix]

Simple answer, if you price something high enough some people will think that it must be worth said price. Their loss, I don't give a damn about 'collectibility' and cannot even begin to fathom what goes through the minds of people who would pay this much for a knife.

There's another poster on another forum that feels the same way you do about a $50 knife.

Worth is a matter of perception and what the market will bear.

 

[Sonnydaze]

Less than six months ago, when I heard about Chris Reeve Knives, I swore I'd never pay that much for one of them.
I now have owned five folders. IMO, they are that good.
No, the model 25 doesn't interest me...yet.
Sonnydaze

 

[Hans17]

I'm convinced all CRKt's are about $200 overpriced and he knows it. But he wants it to stay that easy because he makes money off of the novelty/luxury out the knife.


My first CRK should arrive today, an umnumzaan. 3 Sebenza clones next week so I can compare quality for cost. And a small sebenza to come shortly after. These knives are great but don't get me wrong why are others able to produce an almost exact replica for $100 or less? I can't wait to get my real CRK but I'm seeing $85-$100 s35v blade Ti scales with ask the same features and looks but the real deal is $425 new.

The same goes for the wicked edge and edge pro. I just sharpened my spyderco tenacious on my $25 angle sharpener similar to the edge pro and it worked fantastic. I just don't see how the $165+ comes to be even with parts, labor and marketing.

Please understand that I will always be about supporting or local economy and buying American but sometimes when I just don't have the extra cash at the time and can get damn near the same product for dirt cheap elsewhere then I do. If I like the product and feel it's something worth the money then I save up and buy the real thing to support the inventor/business owner.

If the original product was more affordable people wouldn't even go searching for the clones. I'd gladly pay $50-$100 any day all day to support the man who invested his time, money, and ideas into a product. I plan to invent something and/or start a businesses in the future and would totally understand if someone was buying a similar item elsewhere at a lower cost but then I would be motivated to do whatever I could to get those customers back and keep them happy and loyal.

All about the real deal. About to upgrade to a wicked edge but I like giving the cheap stuff a gander. Curiosity and frustration I suppose.

Just my opinions and always possible that they might change. Feel free to agree, disagree, argue, enlighten, and support.

Ears open,
Hans

 

[syntaxerrorsix]

I'm convinced all CRKt's are about $200 overpriced and he knows it.........
Hans

The market sets the price. It is apparently in complete agreement with CR expectations. This I'm sure he knows.

So let me ask you this, you bought three clones for ~$300 but you shy away from a the real thing for another ~$100?

How do you intend to determine materials used in the clones?

 

[Moses2792796]

There's another poster on another forum that feels the same way you do about a $50 knife.

Worth is a matter of perception and what the market will bear.

Thing is, if you are seriously using knives as tools, (for me I'm mainly talking and woods use and basic EDC stuff), then you're probably going to have to spend upwards of $50 to get something that will really get the job done. However, I am certain that these knives will not outperform much cheaper folders enough to justify the price. It's more about the exclusivity of owning one, which is a psychology I cannot understand. To me the value of a tool is purely in how well it performs its function. There will always be people who will assume that because something is expensive it must be worth the money, this is fallacious reasoning but it provides a market for overpriced items.

 

[dax0007]

Hans....

People gotta make a living and Mr.Reeves did it on his own! Man deserves to make a profit and knife guys want his stuff.. I am not crazy about buying clones however curiousty would make me wonder too.. I applaud you for support CR knives by owning a small and large one.. I dont feel their 200 over priced! However a 25th anniversary model for 2500$ yeah i guess its a tad over priced)....

However WE the buyers set the market and that the price you pay! Remember CR customer serivce is TOP NOTCH so i consider that when i spend 400-500 on a knife.. Their REFURN program is great!

Most important thing Chris Reeve knives have made it pretty darn clear they SUPPORT AMERICA so that along would make me pay the extra 100-200$ on their knife, but then again you still can compare a 400$ SEBI to any 200$ production model.. The SEBI is like a tank!

 

[syntaxerrorsix]

Thing is, if you are seriously using knives as tools, (for me I'm mainly talking and woods use and basic EDC stuff), then you're probably going to have to spend upwards of $50 to get something that will really get the job done. However, I am certain that these knives will not outperform much cheaper folders enough to justify the price. It's more about the exclusivity of owning one, which is a psychology I cannot understand. To me the value of a tool is purely in how well it performs its function. There will always be people who will assume that because something is expensive it must be worth the money, this is fallacious reasoning but it provides a market for overpriced items.

Well I suppose price justification is a matter of perception but I can assure you that better materials, tolerances and craftsmanship out perform lesser materials, tolerance and craftsmanship.

This would be true in nearly every product or service I can imagine.

 

[Moses2792796]

Well I suppose price justification is a matter of perception but I can assure you that better materials, tolerances and craftsmanship out perform lesser materials, tolerance and craftsmanship.

This would be true in nearly every product or service I can imagine.

True, but there is a level of quality beyond which one does not really require any more for the task at hand but simply desires it more for psychological reasons. I doubt that there is any reason why anyone would need a folder that cost more than say $200. Even that is probably being generous. Another example, a Busse would be nice for a large outdoors knife, but I've yet to come across a task that my Kabar Heavy Bowie couldn't handle so I can't justify spending money on a knife that I don't actually need.

 

[hardheart]

Well I suppose price justification is a matter of perception but I can assure you that better materials, tolerances and craftsmanship out perform lesser materials, tolerance and craftsmanship.

This would be true in nearly every product or service I can imagine.

Of course price does not necessarily reflect the materials, tolerances and craftsmanship. Unless a Nutnfancy Tenacious is equal/better than a PM2 before secondary market foolishness.

 

[syntaxerrorsix]

I hear a lot of free market haters.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. However, don't expect everyone to believe that A. Nutnfancy's reviews are anything more than opinion or B. The point of diminishing returns starts at your perception of "high dollar".

Don't argue with me, argue with the market which sets the price. If it's too rich for your blood or you don't desire a certain tool because the maker marked it out of your perception of value fine, pretending it's the makers fault or any other reason is silly. They aren't building these knives for any other reason than to sell them.

 

[hardheart]

Consumers giving their opinion on the value of goods isn't in any way hating on the free market. Buyers set prices, not sellers. Prices are just opinions expressed in currency, so their opinions have to be dealt with just like msrps. Complaining about complaining and disagreeing with valuation based on personal perception is what everyone is doing. Both sides ought to just deal with it.

 

[syntaxerrorsix]

I'm convinced all CRKt's are about $200 overpriced and he knows it. But he wants it to stay that easy because he makes money off of the novelty/luxury out the knife......


Hans

.............. before secondary market foolishness.

Consumers giving their opinion on the value of goods isn't in any way hating on the free market.

If you say so.

 

[hardheart]

Yeah that is what I say, because I'm not under the impression that the market is free for only sellers.consumers paying a price they are comfortable with is the free market.