freaking amazingly sharp is very subjective! i though i had sharp edges from the lansky system i had but then I never felt a really sharp edge before. trust me you cuold have much sharper edges in much less time!
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why are you people not using paper wheels?
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freaking amazingly sharp is very subjective! i though i had sharp edges from the lansky system i had but then I never felt a really sharp edge before. trust me you cuold have much sharper edges in much less time!
1: you can afford it and the time and energy it saves in the long run will be worth it
2: using paper wheels is a type of freehand sharpening.
3: good lord how long did that take (unless the old knife was already sharp but even then, it must have taken a while)
4: ok that may be a good reason but then again, why not sharpen your knfie before you go on the road? unless your cutting thru bone, a good edge should last until you get back home.
your right, i didnt mean it as starting a fight but i can see how it might. I guess im still pissed that i got tricked into buying a crappy sharp maker which is total crap and i realy dont want others to fall into that trap.
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some of use actually do care that their house is in a pretty good shape.
and have a nice girlfriend
I'd get in trouble for that
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The Spyderco is great to take when visiting friends. Very portable. In the bathroom? Really !! I guess your not married.
The paper wheel is a great sharpening system along with others. I have most all out there and use most of the ones I have. Enjoy the paper wheel, but its not for everyone.
The paper wheel is a great sharpening system along with others. I have most all out there and use most of the ones I have. Enjoy the paper wheel, but its not for everyone.
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Again, aside from saving time (and I enjoy freehand sharpening) I can't imagine it saves me any energy. Any calories it saves me will be burned up 10 fold every time I turn on my "tailed apprentice". Then there's the loud hum, the dust...
I guess. If you had good freehand skills you wouldn't have bought the paper wheels (unless you're doing large quantities of knives or have a physical limitation). And now that you're good with the wheels, how much better are you at any other media?
Took less than 10 minutes, with subsequent touch ups taking about 30-40 seconds - would've taken me an hour to drive home and back, and the job I was working on (cutting a large amount of DOW "supertuff" fiberglass insulation board) was dulling the knife up every 1/2 hour or so. Haven't you seen Murray Carter using a cinderblock? This isn't rocket science.
What if I know I'll have time later, but not right now. I toss the patient in my gear bag, toss it in the car, and its ready to go when /where I am. Besides, with the ability to freehand, I can make use of all manner of unconventional materials in a pinch, instead of standing there with a dull knife saying "if I had my grinder I'd...and it would be..."
I'm glad you like your set-up, but as Unit pointed out the attitude could be toned down a bit. There are plenty of ways a knife can be gotten sharp enough to skin a cat.
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What trap? That something that takes skill also takes patience to learn?
If it takes hours and hours for you to get a good edge you're simply doing it wrong and lack the necessary skill.
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I believe i was thinking of something else, now that I see it on my screen I feel kinda dumb...oh well!
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Sounds like you be a single fella, judging by the bolded part.
"Hon, I'm gonna stick this here grinder in the bathroom...we didn't need room for towels in here anyway, right?"
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Freehand sharpening is a very relaxing exercise for me. I find that spending time with my stones is a very satisfying experience. Paper wheels always seemed like cheating to me. Apparently anyone can learn very quickly to use wheels but it takes lots of time and patience to master freehand sharpening. I like the idea of mastering a skill that not many people have patience for. Also with solid freehand skills you can put an edge on a knife in a pinch with almost anything you have laying around like a rock, car window, pocket stone etc. Lastly, my grandfather used stones so that is what I will use!!
today it took me all of 5 mins to put a razor edge on the back of a hacksaw blade and then I used it to shave my face, arms, and legs.:thumbup: I really cant understand how people are still using sharpmakers in the attempt to get a half ass crappy edge which takes hours and hours or labor!seriously?:jerkit: why god why?
Just because you can't use it, doesn't mean it doesn't work.
The expensive part is the dedicated grinder. The total cost is more in the $60 to $80 range, depending on the grinder brand and size. What will you do if the power goes out, or at summer camp, or an extended hunting trip, etc.? The paper wheels work, bench stones work, the Sharpmaker works, belt sanders work. You're really coming across with a "my way or you're an idiot" attitude.
Some folks don't want to live (or bathe) in a workshop
So 'time spent sharpening' is an issue for you? Not for most members of BladeForum. We enjoy the process, not just the result.
If you're going to sharpen professionally, and need to turn over a dozen or more knives every day, speed becomes important. It shouldn't be for the hobbyist.
Judging from the hundreds of posts from Sharpmaker users who said that this device was the best thing that happened to them, I don't see much of a 'trap.' I see an effective sharpening tool for them.
There are many effective sharpening tools available. Sharpmaker, DMT Aligner, GATCO, Lansky, RazorEdge, EdgePro, WickedEdge... and EVERY ONE of those will put a shaving edge on a knife. Even a pack of sandpaper will do it. None of these require permanent setup, and most are quite portable.
There is nothing wrong with using a paper wheel, but certainly nothing especially right about it either. It's just another effective sharpening tool. But like any tool, there is a time and a place for it. You don't use a hammer to put in a screw. It will work, but there are other tools available that may be better.
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Seems to me that it boils down to a point of view that "if I" (that would be you, eccvets) think that it (whatever it
might be - in this case, paper wheels) is great, I'm going to tell everyone else that they ought to be doing it, too.
Perhaps you have a thing or to to learn about not forcing your preferences on others. A lack of understanding that concept is how "great" ideas like nationalized health care get rammed down your throat.
might be - in this case, paper wheels) is great, I'm going to tell everyone else that they ought to be doing it, too.
Perhaps you have a thing or to to learn about not forcing your preferences on others. A lack of understanding that concept is how "great" ideas like nationalized health care get rammed down your throat.
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Maybe I'll try a paper wheel then. I don't know anything about them, though.
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Power tools and diamond sharpeners are a good step forward. They open the doors to the possibility of more widespread use of 9% and higher vanadium steels like S90V, S110V, S125V, etc.
I'm personally hoping S125V will finally present me with enough of a challenge so that I can be justified in shelling out money for those Micro-Mesh diamond belts for my Work Sharp:thumbup:. Indeed I'm keeping my fingers crossed for much more exotic steels like something with 15% vanadium in a stainless steel
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I'm personally hoping S125V will finally present me with enough of a challenge so that I can be justified in shelling out money for those Micro-Mesh diamond belts for my Work Sharp:thumbup:. Indeed I'm keeping my fingers crossed for much more exotic steels like something with 15% vanadium in a stainless steel
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I hate dropping $2.50 on deodorant, I don't need to spend a fortune on sharpening stuff, my $5 hardware store stone and $5 chef's steel works fine for me so long as I don't get frustrated and wing it at something.
Hey, hey, hey. He didn't say he was putting the grinder on the towel racks!