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Why do I hate Cold Steel?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by TravisL, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    I have no strong bias against Cold Steel (company). If they have something that appeals to me, I'll buy it.
  2. LEGION 12

    LEGION 12 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 8, 2009
    I like there shovels.
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  3. 353

    353 Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 20, 2015
    Bought a mini recon just to try out the triad lock.

    - Great steel, XHP.
    - Very nice ergos.
    - Strongest lock out there?

    - Very rough finnish on the scales, needs to be lightly sanded IMO.
    - Clip is way to stiff.
    - Hard to unlock.
    - A bit chunky to pocket(picture with the small21).
    - Studs have sharp edges and will rip your pockets.

    When it comes down to it, it's sitting in the back of my knife drawer. Poor thing, I might take it out for some tough jobs one day, a beater on stand by. But I'll more likely take a beater fixed blade come to think of it..

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  4. clovehitch


    Jan 8, 2018
    I saw those on Apostle P's youtube channel. They look amazing, but isn't it arguably a downgrade from their CTS XHP? And $50 more expensive? I kind of want to get one in XHP one day and sand the DLC off and mirror polish it.

    In other news, I recently got an Italian 4max ($279.99 from Midway). Fit and finish is near flawless. The lock is certainly harder to press but doable. The edge is ground fully and evenly, and will shave, however it is a relatively coarse edge that "needs" some stropping. I can see it being too large or too heavy for some, but it is truly a fantastic blade.
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  5. ursamajor


    Oct 27, 2010
    These folders are Demko designs. The 4Max is absolutely true to the Demko, save being a production knife.

    And their big San Mai knives are made by Hattori-the same maker of the Fallkniven Northern Light series. True master class blades.

    Their D2 Leatherneck in DLC can be had at dealers for less than $80-outstanding value. And they have several sub $150 fixed blades in DLC’d 3V, that are jaw dropping in what you get for your money.

    There are many knives in their lineup that do nothing for me. With that said, they have the most extensive catalogue of knives/designs, of any knife company-and by a wide margin.
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2018
  6. FullMetalJackass

    FullMetalJackass Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 10, 2016
    You hate Cold Steel cos you wish Emersons were sold at that price :D
    It's understandable.
    I hate them too, but I like some of their knives.
  7. ursamajor


    Oct 27, 2010
    You never know.


  8. b00n

    b00n Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 15, 2016
    Yeah, it's possible.
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  9. ursamajor


    Oct 27, 2010
    He was smart enough to bring Andrew Demko in, and make him the lead designer. Imagine if KAI or Benchmade had the foresight to make that move instead...
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  10. Mick_1KRR


    May 1, 2016
    In use so far i honestly can't tell a difference between the XHP and their S35VN, i think they are pretty good with their heat treats, if i notice any difference over time i'll post up my findings. And congrats on the 4max, such a slicing monster but feels refined at the same time.
  11. SharpieB

    SharpieB Basic Member Basic Member

    Oct 31, 2017
    Thanks for the great advice, you miserable bastard. ;):p

    I forgot the “drawer” part and left my ‘new today’ Recon 1 Serrared on my nightstand 1/2 open. Quite the shock when I reached over to set my alarm.:eek: Forgot to put it in the drawer.

    Like a friggin mouse trap...

    Damned thing are sharp!!!!

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  12. Murindo

    Murindo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 4, 2010
    I almost hate to chime in on such a long thread about a controversial issue but I will. Back in the day, 40 years ago, the Cold Steel Tanto was the best production knife on the planet. Many of the the other makers from back then are gone or have come in and out of bankruptcy one or more times. Thompson is like Trump. He is the real deal and isn't afraid to tell you how good his products are.

    If he really did steal others designs (Emerson, Spyderco,etc.) he would have been sued.

    Today, if you are on a budget, you can't find better performing fixed blades or folders than Cold Steel.

    I only own one CS folder, the 4 Max. I have many other high end production and custom folders but if I could only choose one and it had to meet any possible scenario, I'd choose the 4 Max.
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  13. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    I quite like some of the CS products.

    As you say, some are excellent affordable solid blades.

    But no politics, please.

    Lets make knives gr....., I mean, lets make it about the knives.
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2018
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  14. Floatingby


    Dec 22, 2016
    I ground off 0.010" of the middle portion of the lock spring(from 0.040" down to 0.030") and that did the trick for me, doesn't bruise my thumb when closing yet the lockup is still solid as heck.
  15. Minnesota Man

    Minnesota Man Basic Member Basic Member

    Sep 30, 2014
    She's officially yours now! Thank me later when you bond with her!
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  16. rschuch


    Apr 18, 2014
    I've had a couple and, while I don't hate them, they aren't on my "gotta get" list mainly because of the triad lock. I had a Counter Point XL for quite a while I was desperately trying to loosen up which never did. I could never flick it open and that dang lock just about broke my thumb every time I tried to disengage it. NOT user friendly, so I got rid of it. I was comically too large to carry, for me anyway. I like the aesthetics of the Counter Point and if I could find a #1 (4" blade) that was easy to open and unlock, that would be great, but I don't think I'd buy another online without handling it first.
  17. Valyrian steel

    Valyrian steel

    Aug 31, 2017
    No Politics. I don't come on here for that shit
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  18. colin.p


    Feb 4, 2017
    Sorry man, I shouldn't laugh, but that is funny.
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  19. johnnytoxin


    May 24, 2010
    I own an aus 8 American lawman, it’s a good knife. What I can’t get over is the names of the knives: broken skull, ultimate hunter etc....I just can’t stand them. Even the name cold steel bugs me. Performance wise I have nothing bad to say about them.
  20. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    Well ..., it is cold steel.

    And remember; there is always companies with more idiot blurb/front figures.


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