Why do knife snobs hate Cold Steel??

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cziv said:
Special Projects is the name on all of their catalogs dude. I think the CEO of the company knows what he's talking about?? The Special Projects catalog might have had a typo in it? Maybe.

As far as Fat Lynn, there's no reason for that crap waynejitsu. You talk about groundwork and hve "jitsu" in your username. You sound like some of the punk a** grappling students at my friend's school (Gracie Jiu Jitsu), who have a "few" skills then think they're bad a** and go around half-cocked, until one of the brown belts or black belts get out on the floor and crush their dumb a**es and maybe humiliate them to boot, if they have a history of going too rough on new students and whatnot.

Fat Lynn could probably kick the snot out of you, I've watched his training videos for too long. And you Waynewhatever do not conduct yourself like a martial artist but like a punk, and not just in this thread but in a few others where you've made an a** out yourself with your childish behavior.

If you're a martial arts practitioner then please turn it down a few notches, it's guys like you that make real martial artists look bad. :rolleyes:

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It is called confidence in your own ability to back up the words you are saying.
Your opinion is that, your opinion, everyone has one.
You are right, I should not have called him fat lynn.
What he is, is a marketing genius.
Feel better now:)

As far as "jitsu", martial arts have changed since the advent of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, it is no longer traditional bowing and kneeling. It is like it should be. Belts mean nothing. I have watched white belts trash black belts. (and no, it was not me nor am I a white belt)
People seem to love Shamrock (Ken and Frank and neither have a "belt".
A "belt" is to hold up your pants, not prove how you can fight.
And BTW, my fighting days are long past, I was in a bad accident, broken back in 4 places and a long list of other injuries and health problems.
HOWEVER, I still "feel" I can hold my own after 10 years of MMA:)
 
waynejitsu said:
Example-
Here is the scene of an accident.
Does the police get a statement from the eye witnesses or does he take the word of someone who was not there and did not see the accident at all?
An eye witness is legally NOT the best evidence, but it sure beats the heck out of getting any evidence from someone who never saw it.

Same thing here, you NEVER saw one so you can say it never existed. I had made posts about it when I had it, which can still be found on the web and a review of the knife is also on the web. While you are reviewing a product, let's say..., a knife, you know the steel it is made of.

Now..., you want to see it. Like I said in past posts, I SOLD or TRADED it already. Looks like I should have kept it, but that is too late.

Now- Let's get BACK ON SUBJECT, how about that for a novel idea.

For arguments sake, let's say I never even owned a Recon-1..., how about that, does that make you happy?

End of story and we are now back on original content:)
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The fact is the Recon 1 was never made in the USA, never was made By Camillus (The only way to get Carbon V back then).

If it was in fact a Recon 1 folder then it was a fake.....
 
waynejitsu said:
Example-
Here is the scene of an accident.
Does the police get a statement from the eye witnesses or does he take the word of someone who was not there and did not see the accident at all?
An eye witness is legally NOT the best evidence, but it sure beats the heck out of getting any evidence from someone who never saw it.
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Nice strawman...

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Say what you want about Cold Steel... but, at the end of the day, they make some cool stuff. All the specialty items are insanely fun, and pretty well-made for the money. War clubs and sjamboks? C'mon. That's awesome.

On the "fat lynn" note... I've been doing BJJ for a few years (I don't really bring it up on the forums, for the obvious reasons: "MMA/BJJ sucks!" type arguements) and I'm a fairly capable submission artist. And, I wouldn't go pick a fight with Lynn. He's a pretty big, stout looking guy and if you watch him move in his videos, he's quick and agile. I bet he can throw hands.

Damnit... when did I become a CS fanboy? :mad::p
 
Do you have to be a "knife snob" to dislike Cold Steel knives?

What happens if you dislike what you've seen of the fellas that run the place and you dislike their advertising but you think that now and then even a fool can make a good knife and that they make some good ones? Does that line of thinking make you a "knife snob"?

Also what happens if you don't really care about them one way or the other.

tipoc
 
tipoc said:
Do you have to be a "knife snob" to dislike Cold Steel knives?

What happens if you dislike what you've seen of the fellas that run the place and you dislike their advertising but you think that now and then even a fool can make a good knife and that they make some good ones? Does that line of thinking make you a "knife snob"?

Also what happens if you don't really care about them one way or the other.

tipoc
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1. No

2. No

3. Nothing :D
 
I am guessing you did not read the thread, so I am posting again...

waynejitsu said:
For arguments sake, let's say I never even owned a Recon-1..., how about that, does that make you happy?

End of story and we are now back on original content:)
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There, it never happened..., AGAIN.
I never owned a Recon-1
I never owned a cold steel
I don't even have a knife or sharp piece of metal...
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cziv said:
Here are some real steel snobs and they haven't said a word about Cold Steel. In fact, the term AUS8 hasn't come up at all except when I listed it. :thumbup: :p

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=759591
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The title of the post is-
"Recommendation? The BEST knife steel "

Cold Steel never mentioned.
AUS8 never mentioned

You are correct, in a post looking for good knives and good steel, CS was never mentioned:)
 
Like I said, I mentioned it! Nobody got onboard though - darn steel snobs! :D
 
waynejitsu said:
The title of the post is-
"Recommendation? The BEST knife steel "

Cold Steel never mentioned.
AUS8 never mentioned

You are correct, in a post looking for good knives and good steel, CS was never mentioned:)
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AUS8 is a good steel. Is it the best steel? Nope. But, that doesn't mean it's not good.

Your personal dislike of LT aside, what do you not like about Cold Steel knives?
 
cziv said:
Here are some real steel snobs and they haven't said a word about Cold Steel. In fact, the term AUS8 hasn't come up at all except when I listed it. :thumbup: :p

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=759591
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I guess I could see myself as a steel snob. I haven't broken the $1000 mark yet but soon will once my RW stainless Hawk is finished. That should lend some credibility to my endorsement of Cold Steel.
 
EMT_Lee said:
AUS8 is a good steel. Is it the best steel? Nope. But, that doesn't mean it's not good.

Your personal dislike of LT aside, what do you not like about Cold Steel knives?
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It is not that I do not like him. LT is a genius.
He is able to sell knives with a cheaper steel at a premium price. He is an absolute marketing genius!!

At one time, many years ago, I "thought" there was no other knife than CS, that was a long time ago.

I followed CS for years and years. What I noticed was the knife descriptions in his catalogs (before internet).
I took the words as gospel. They would say things like "this is the best steel for this type of blade", then, the steel would change, but ALWAYS to a cheaper steel.
After years and years of being loyal to CS and never even considering another knife or company, a business opened in town. They carried Emerson, Benchmade and other quality knives. He showed me the differences in steel, in quality, materials and build and I was still not convinced (although I saw it with my own eyes, I just did not want to believe all this time all I did was buy into marketing hype). It was true. After purchasing my first set of Benchmade knives, a Mini-Grip, then 440C and a 943. They were MUCH, MUCH smoother, better steel, better fitting, and a whole lot smoother.

A good friend of mine was carrying a CS. I gave him a Kershaw Cyclone and he now carries the Kershaw.
He has told me all he has done to the Kershaw and it holds an edge so much better than the CS.
CS- AUS8,
Kershaw- 13C26

Anyone who has ever compared knives, honestly compared them will admit CS is a lower quality knife and most of the money is in marketing instead of the product.
That is what I have noticed over the years. Years being about 20 of following the Cs knives.
I first saw them advertised in Guns & Ammo (the Tanto series) and always lusted after them, but could not afford them at the time. Well, over time I did quite good financially for a few years and had money to burn and bought all the Tanto series knives. It was one of those things I always wanted and was now (then) able to buy anything I wanted and did:)
They are still hanging on the wall, next to some of my martial arts certificates, etc on the wall, they just look cool, but have never cut even a hair, I just like how they look.
Tired of reading yet, LOL!!

I did like Carbon V, it was CS best, but it is gone now.
(Trivia- does CS even make knives or are they all farmed out and made by contract by other companies and CS just "markets"?)
 
Charlie Mike said:
I guess I could see myself as a steel snob. I haven't broken the $1000 mark yet but soon will once my RW stainless Hawk is finished. That should lend some credibility to my endorsement of Cold Steel.
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I don't think the amount of money you spend is what they define as "steel snob". I take it to mean you -only- like the latest, greatest highend steel. But, you never let a chance pass (real or imagined) to brag about the money you'll spend. :p
 
Look at the size of my collection. I have approx 10 folders and 4 fixed blades. I like quality over quantity.
 
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