Why do knife snobs hate Cold Steel??

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100eyes said:
yea, what would a guy who owns a damn knife company know about knives.
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He doesn't.

Cold Steel is a knife promotion company, unless you can point to one single knife they have ever actually made themselves. They're all contract knives with one company or another.

One of the things that gets under my skin is the way things are marketed. Take the Kudu for example, their take on the classic Okapi folder.

Quoting from the website: "In South Africa, an inexpensive ring lock folder is sold everywhere. It’s a good design, but it’s constructed from sub-standard materials, is poorly made, and is horribly overpriced."

An Okapi can be had for $10 from Ragnar. Its copy is $9 from CS. Hardly "horribly overpriced". My example has a carbon blade that takes a wicked edge, believed to be 1055, and sharpens extremely easily. CS's is Krupp 4116, same as in SAKs. CS isn't improving anything.

I've also been around to remember when they ridiculed those using AUS8A, and now that's what they're using.
 
Ankerson said:
That would be a given there, but then CPM 154 is one of those steels that is just that good. :thumbup:

It's really a shame we don't see much of it outside custom knives, at 61 ~ 62 RC it really shines. :D
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Besides your Demko what do you have with CPM154? I want to find something in that steel and wondering what others have.
 
HJK said:
I had a ColdSteel Trailmaster in Carbon V. I loved that knife. I used it in The Northwest Territories, the nahanni, Temagemi in Ontario and elsewhere. Damn thing almost crippled me on the first trip until I wrapped the handle, but it was a good chopper. It still is. It's in semi retirement now because it isn't in the same league ( as a chopper) for either my Busse BattleMistress and even the Steelheart II ( both original straighthandles). I don't denigrate the CS because I'm a Busse fan. I because a Busse fan because, for me, in my entirely subjective real world experience, it is not close.
Now, if I had to use one or the other as a fighter, the CS Trailmaster is, again, in my hands and for me, much superior: fast, balanced, wicked penetration and, to be blunt, it is a great looking knife!
But it won't outchop a big Busse.
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Fair enough!
 
I always liked the look of cold steel, but everything I bought from them fell apart. And the Voyager had the worst serrations of all time. They snapped off the first time I cut something. Literally the first cut!

... always liked the look of the Master Hunter though. I here that in Carbon V was one of the best knives they made ... wasn't it make by Becker?
 
Well guess what? I just got off the phone with Busse asking about the FFBM with a sharpened clip point and satin finish. I have to call back on Thursday to talk with the custom guy.

Maybe I will get one, just to see what the fuss is about..
 
Don't hate 'em, heck I have 'bout half a dozen rangin' from his early all steel Urban Pal to a Vaquero Grande,

I use 'em and love 'em, it's a personal choice not based on any videos but soley my direct experience with the models I own.

What I get tired of is every one startin' a CS thread without ever searchin' the subject or startin' a thread because they know it'll get rise outta the community.

Either your a newbie who likes to leap before ya look or your a troll, (I'm not sayin' you personally I'm sayin' people in general who start this specific kinda thread).

So that's MHO.
 
Well, I don't know anything about Lynn, and I don't pay attention to videos and marketing -- I use the products, and then I make my own decision. That said, about 6 or 7 years ago I bought a medium Voyager and used it to cut out two 4' x 4' pieces of carpet from one large piece of carpet scrap. The blade was almost totally dulled when I was finished. I sharpened it up and put it in my "utility" drawer. Then, about two years later, I had to repeat the process (I again needed two 4' x 4' pieces of carpet), and once again, I barely made it through the second piece of carpet and the blade was totally dulled. Needless to say, my opinion of CS knives dulled along with my Voyager, which has been relegated to the "miscellaneous" drawer in the garage.

I did, however, buy an Arc Angel Bali about 3 years ago at a gun & knife show. Flips nice, but never cut anything with it, and I probably won't. It's basically just a nice addition to my Bali collection.
 
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T. Erdelyi said:
Don't hate 'em, heck I have 'bout half a dozen rangin' from his early all steel Urban Pal to a Vaquero Grande,

I use 'em and love 'em, it's a personal not based on any videos but soley my direct experience with the models I own.

What I get tired of is every one startin' a CS thread without ever searchin' the subject or startin' a thread because they know it'll get rise outta the community.

Either your a newbie who likes to leap before ya look or your a troll, (I'm not sayin' you personally I'm sayin' people in general who start this specific kinda thread).

So that's MHO.
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Yeah I know what you mean. ;)

What gets me is all the complete BS that gets thrown around over and over again, same stuff just repeated over and over and most of it's not even true or only partly true.

I have no loyalty to CS, but it's sad to see a Company get attacked every time someone starts a thread.

It's gets so bad people make up stories and those are repeated over and over like they are facts.
 
I dont like the fact that their only a importer, they have no shop, no way to work on a knife, they just replace them...cause they are cheap enuff to do so, far better choices out there.
 
Beyond You said:
I dont like the fact that their only a importer, they have no shop, no way to work on a knife, they just replace them...cause they are cheap enuff to do so, far better choices out there.
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They do have a shop. ;)

They do repair knives.

Were do you think all their prototypes are made?

They are made here in the USA, one of a kind Customs.
 
They may have a bucket of screws and some replacement parts but they dont build anything, dont think anyones talking about their prototypes or customs, imagine those are just for them to send off as build plans.

Cold steel and, customs sounds embrassing in the same sentence ...
 
Beyond You said:
They may have a bucket of screws and some replacement parts but they dont build anything, dont think anyones talking about their prototypes or customs, imagine those are just for them to send off as build plans.

Cold steel and, customs sounds embrassing in the same sentence ...
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Better check into it because they do build their own prototypes. ;)

The Mans name who builds their Prototypes currently is Andrew Demko.

I have a Trail Master that is now a Semi Custom that they fixed, the guard came loose because of a defect and they fixed it putting on a Custom fitted Guard, it's now one of a kind.
 
Yes ive seen your vids and countless threads about him and your American law man you have is nice, but it doesnt change their image and practices.

Talented maker just went with the wrong company.
 
Beyond You said:
Yes ive seen your vids and countless threads about him and your American law man you have is nice, but it doesnt change their image and practices.

Talented maker just went with the wrong company.
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Most of their Image as you say is from Sour Grapes, hearsay and out right BS that gets spread around.

Anyway, here is the TM they fixed.

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sharp lupo said:
Well guess what? I just got off the phone with Busse asking about the FFBM with a sharpened clip point and satin finish. I have to call back on Thursday to talk with the custom guy.

Maybe I will get one, just to see what the fuss is about..
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Outstanding!:thumbup:
 
Two 154CM knives I own, the mini Grip with baby blue handles (its actually the wifes) we call the scalpel, a TOPS Screaming Eagle, which besides its ever so subtle name it actually a quite nice knife on the hip, if I were in the service, it would be a tough choice between this and a SY Regulator. I think that's it right now, 154 cm is really a fine steel choice, it would be awesome if more companies used it.
 
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