Why do most people like pocket knives?

Pocket knives to me are simply "functional male pocket jewelry."

Do I need to carry a knive(s) daily? no. But it makes me happy to have something uncommon to fiddle with every now and then, and when I get to use a sharp edge I've maintained myself for some sort of task I feel accomplished. The occasional comment or conversation started when a peer or co-worker sees me using my knife satisfies the human-natured wish to show off every now and then. I have no urge or expectation to use a knife in self defense. Just being honest.
 
I can only speak for myself on why I carry a knife. I carry it to cut stuff it could be a package or an apple but I have never said oh I might have to cut a person. I am buying my 16 yo nephew a knife for christmas because he just started a job washing dishes and this of course includes breaking down boxes and opening boxes at work. I let him use my Kershaw shuffle and he said that it really came in handy. Honestly I never realized how much I needed a cutting tool until I started carrying one and then forgot it. Honestly a knife fight would have to be last ditch stuck in a corner no other choice option. I think the point of knife rights is to change the opinion of people about what a knife really is intended for. Most people only see knives on movies and tv. They think people are gona pull out their switchbladed tie their arms together and have a fight till the death. When most likely a guys gonna pull out his knife slice their sandwich and have a lazy lunch.
 
I carry a pocket knife to cut stuff, a pistol for self defense. A big fixed blade when hunting or camping or backpacking in addition to the pocket knife and pistol. While I have had training in using a knife I'm also aware that the guy who wins a knife fight is the guy who bleeds out last. No thank you.

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Yup. My Glock is for SD. A knife would be a last resort SD option, and not a good one at that. I have only ever used my pocket knife for utility tasks. I do carry a fixed blade quite often as well, but again, not for SD. A knife makes a poor option for SD as you are already too close to the threat and you do need proper training to avoid hurting yourself. Looks like Indiana as fairly lax gun laws like many states including reciprocity with lots of states including mine. If you are serious about self defense you should get a license to carry.
 
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Some of the worst/bloodiest fights I've seen involving blades came from razor blades melted into toothbrushes. As a former prison guard, I'd say go with a small pistol for self defense. Blades make a bloody mess but in reality, unless your some navy seal guru, the attacker and most likely the knife fighter will both end up with little more than stitches.
 
I can't really add more than what's already been said. Pocket knives are tools...pretty simple if you ask me. Having to fight someone really isn't a big deal, but if you get in a situation where you need a knife to defend yourself you're pretty bad off regardless of whether you have a six inch blade or a three inch blade...
 
I've carried a pocket knife as a tool for over 30 years. I've moved to larger knives, but that's due to living rurally and working from home when not traveling. If I'm worried about security I carry a pistol or revolver concealed (have ccp).
 
A pocket knife makes my day a bit easier as does a flashlight and small multitool like the Juice. If I want to be armed, I'll take a gun, thanks.
 
I can't speak for everyone but there's probably a lot of reasons and is a per individual thing.

For one, many do not view a pocket knife as a weapon at all. It can serve as a self defense tool sure, but many carry a knife primarily as a cutting tool. There is no need to be walking around with a Kilingon blade.

Ease of carry... Do you see many gun carriers with full size pistols, shotguns, and rifles? No, they usually opt for single stack micro carry. Some just don't want to look like a nutcase in public maybe... Or look like a Mongol or Hells Angel with a sword hanging out their ass. And some, find it that they carry more often when the gun/knife is comfortable.

Many people live in urban areas and maybe as much as they want to walk around with a sword, they choose to fit in a little bit instead.

Doug Ritter's knife rights isn't aimed at making everyone carry a knife for self defense. You are missing the entire point, and what he's built up is to make knives become more UNDERSTOOD that knives are a tool. Not to be feared. An uphill battle for sure.

A well trained knifist can dice you up pretty bad with something like a Delica even btw.

....Okay, I understand workers' rights with knives. If that is true, then why is Doug Ritter's movement quoting the "Second Amendment"? I'm pretty sure...the 2nd Amendment isn't for slicing watermelons or cutting boxes open.....
 
Yeah, Cricket Dave is absolutely right, the romance of a knife fight needs to be abandoned... the nasty brutality of it is something else entirely. The only way one might be successful with a knife, w/o harm to one's self, is if one attacks by surprise or stealth... that is combat in times of war, otherwise it is assault with a deadly weapon and/or murder. I want no part of that...


Knife fights really are steeped in folklore and legend. Not that people never engaged each other with knives but knife fighting is mostly the stuff of Hollywood and an interesting prop for martial arts devotees. Even in times of war, actually having to call on a knife or bayonet as a weapon is not common. It rarely happens with bayonets, knives even less so. Like civilians, soldiers use knives primarily as tools, not weapons. That's just reality. You would be hard pressed to find anyone who pulled out a knife in combat for defense or offense. It has happened but only in rare extreme circumstances. Most of people's examples will come from movies.
 
I know the cool thing to say here is that folders just make more sense, as we don't need a 7" SEAL knife to open a box or perform similar daily tasks that actually happen on a regular basis. And I agree with that too, but I'm going to also agree-ish with the OP. And I believe, in re-reading his post, he is specifically talking about the use of knives for self-defense/protection, and he's asking why he keeps seeing folders as the poster knives when this specific use of knives is talked about/advertised/etc. I don't know that I have personally experienced what he's talking about there, but if he has, he's got a point.

Again, he's not asking why would anyone carry a folder if where you live, you're allowed to carry a nice sized fixed....he's asking why use a folder instead of a fixed for self defense, or situations where self defense is a distinct possibility. I totally agree with this, and yes, I even have a personal story to go along with my opinion! About a year and half ago, I was taking a walk thru the neighborhood with my family - lovely Wife & our 5 kids - and our neighborhood is a rural foothills town in No. CA btw. I NEVER take such family walks without a fixed blade (and honestly, I'm one of those dorks who prefer EDC-ing a small to medium-small fixed anyhow...& where I live there is no length limit at all as long as it's open carry). Not so much because of bears or mountain lions or even crazy mountain-men, all of which we have in our area, it's really for dogs (lots of very protective dogs in my rural area, as the people up here tend to prefer privacy & discourage "visitors") & because I feel cool & think I look pretty cool with one of my favorite fixed blades on my hip. So, back to the story, we're walking along, nice sunny late morning day, and all of the sudden a very aggressive pit bull runs up to us, stopping just about 10 feet short and growling & barking like crazy (we were walking in a residential street BTW, on the opposite side of the one lane little street from the house this dog ran from...a dog that always runs up and barks at all cars, including us, when they drive past her house). I immediately put my arms out stopping any of my family from getting in front of me & "asked" my wife to get in front of the kids, which was already doing....I don't recall doing it, but I got my knife into my hand & ready to use...the dog's owner comes out after about a good solid minute of terror, and says "don't worry, she won't bite ya". 3 seconds after she says that, her dog charges at me. Luckily, I was mentally prepared for it, kinda, & put my shoulder into her as she kind of half jump-lunged at me...I was able to deflect her head off to the side of me w/my left shoulder & plunged the relatively long bird & trout (4.5" cutting edge, about 9" OAL) I was walking with, into the dog's neck...right above where her shoulders start. Because of my crazy high levels of whatever chemicals course thru one's body in such times, the entire 4.5" penetrated this very powerfully built, all-muscle dog...& even though the bird & trout was only about 1" wide at it's very widest point & not the very best choice for protection really - but I was carrying it because I just bought it & wanted to wear it...it was enough to prevent the dog from engaging any further. She let out a heartbreaking cry of pain/defeat, & shuffled back to her house, into the arms of her owner. This woman was already in full tears & screaming "he killed my baby, he killed my baby!" The dog ended up surviving btw, & she doesn't seem to be impaired physically, though she does act much differently...PTSD is the best way I can describe it. Her owner, in case you're wondering, never once offered her apologies....nor has she said anything negative to me or my wife...just nothing....& I understand her love for her dog, I do not understand how she seems to be cool with her dog nearly killing children, which she of course would have done if she could have.

Anyhow, this story got longer than I wanted, sorry guys, but I guess my point is, or one of them anyhow; the OP has a point, when you look at the precise wording of his post...I certainly prefer fixed (though I prefer 3" - 5" edges mostly) over folding for self-defense situations (& all situations, as again, I'm one of those annoying fixed blade lovers), which are exceedingly rare....to the point of most of us here on BF will go our entire lives without ever once having to defend ourselves/loved ones in such a manner. But I did, & I often wonder how differently that situation would have turned out had I only been carrying a folder or no knife at all. (my oldest boy, 13yo at the time, had a fixed and a hickory walking stick on his person too BTW...so we try to be prepared, as this wasn't the 1st time a dog had barked at us)
 
Knife fight = everyone bleeds. Better off with a 2 foot stick than a 6" "combat" knife. Having had guys attempt to rob me twice its been my experience that spitting at them and running works great and avoiding shitty areas works even better, get a CCW if you can't avoid the shitholes.
 
Yeah, Cricket Dave is absolutely right, the romance of a knife fight needs to be abandoned... the nasty brutality of it is something else entirely. The only way one might be successful with a knife, w/o harm to one's self, is if one attacks by surprise or stealth... that is combat in times of war, otherwise it is assault with a deadly weapon and/or murder. I want no part of that...

I strongly disagree and consider this argument to be in the same vein as the "why would you carry a gun to defend yourself? Do you want to have shootouts in the street?" argument used by antigunners. It's another tool. A secondary tool for all who have any sense, but a tool nonetheless.
 
Good story Vandammet. I too carry SD tools to defend against animals and pitulls specifically. We have a lot of want to be thugs who have them around here plus about once a year some sort of rabid animal even though we are in a dense city. That said, I carry a gun for primary SD and would have no problem putting down somebody's dog if it threatens my family.

I strongly disagree and consider this argument to be in the same vein as the "why would you carry a gun to defend yourself? Do you want to have shootouts in the street?" argument used by antigunners. It's another tool. A secondary tool for all who have any sense, but a tool nonetheless.

The only problem is that the people you are disagreeing with for the most part encourage the carry of a hand gun. There is no doubt that when legal a gun is a far more effective SD tool. This is the point.
 
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....Okay, I understand workers' rights with knives. If that is true, then why is Doug Ritter's movement quoting the "Second Amendment"? I'm pretty sure...the 2nd Amendment isn't for slicing watermelons or cutting boxes open.....

There is a lot you are clearly not understanding though, very common sense type thing as a matter of fact. There is a lot of ognorance by way of just not knowing and the inability for you to really extrapolate the "why" portions of your many questions. I'd recommend you calm yourself down a bit and we can discuss this and hopefully get you some answers that will satisfy and in a way which you can understand.

I'm going to say this one time, if anyone posts in this thread to troll or be a douche, you will get an infraction. Enough is enough. So don't think about it.
 
Good story Vandammet. I too carry SD tools to defend against animals and pitulls specifically. We have a lot of want to be thugs who have them around here plus about once a year some sort of rabid animal even though we are in a dense city. That said, I carry a gun for primary SD and would have no problem putting down somebody's dog if it threatens my family.



The only problem is that the people you are disagreeing with for the most part encourage the carry of a hand gun. There is no doubt that when legal a gun is a far more effective SD tool. This is the point.

Right. Exactly... Certainly not anti-knife or gun for that matter... but "anti" the romanticism (mostly Hollywood inspired as BubbaGump said) that comes with the knife-fight image. I love my knifes and enjoy carrying them and using them... and that does not need to be as a weapon.
 
the romance of a knife fight needs to be abandoned...

The other thing that needs to be abandoned is the image of two guys duelling with knives.

Most times, it ain't like that.
A guy here in Windsor successfully defended himself with a knife outside a strip club...well, actually this time it was against two people, one of whom had a knife, and one of whom had a gun. He stabbed and killed the guy with the knife, then ran away before getting shot.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/accused-tells-murder-trial-stabbing-was-self-defence-1.1066084

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/brown-not-guilty-in-leopard-s-lounge-stabbing-death-1.1014270

The other one--outside the same strip club--involved a "melee" (level 3 melee weapon, +1 column shift versus drunken lout... :D)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/windsor-strip-club-stabbing-arrests-1.974481

http://windsorstar.com/news/accused-found-not-guilty-of-attempt-murder-in-strip-club-melee

And neither were found guilty of a crime.

Moral of the story: carry whatever knife you like...and stay away from Leopard's lounge. ;)
 
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From looking at OP's site or blog (whatever that abortion is), he's all about the mall-ninja scene.
 
From looking at OP's site or blog (whatever that abortion is), he's all about the mall-ninja scene.

Ooh, then maybe he should go to leopard's lounge!
It could be his personal Mos Eisley. :D

Actually, despite all the stabbings, it's usually a pretty cool place, from what I hear.
Free all you can eat barbeque on Wednesdays (I think that's the day) all summer long. :)
You just have to buy a drink and watch the fully naked women dance around...I suppose there are worse ways to spend an evening.
 
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