Why do office people freak?

I wonder what would be more of an issue...
If i walked around in hunting clothes with my shotgun on my back and my sword on my belt.
 
On a related note: I worked at a hospital once where local off duty deputies were hired for security. Hosp. administration requested that they not carry their weapons...the sheriff said the gun was part of the uniform and that it would be carried.

When the hospital started its own security service the "guards" could not even carry a big flashlight because it was "threatening". All they could have was a cell phone to call for help.

Some people (administrations) are just too stupid to help.

Any time my knife might be a problem I just put it down in my pocket out of sight.
 
well when a guy comes in and starts shooting or stabbing people and you can't do anything about it to protect yourself...AND if you survive... it is your duty as an american to sue the hell out of the company you work for not letting you exercise your constitutional RIGHT...YES I said RIGHT...AS IN THE BILL OF RIGHTS....to be able to carry a gun or weapon for self protection.
 
I have a small, custom made Brisa blade/sheath that I tuck into my belt in front, and just wear my sweater over.

For me, I never advertise that it's there.

The blade is 2 7/8".

When I don't wear a sweater, I just tuck it in a front pocket.

No one needs to know that I carry it.

A very wise man once told me it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
 
It's been my experience that most people that go off like a fool in a work environment are just yanking your chain because they're bored and they think it's funny or clever.
 
If I have to use one at work I pull out a Buck 301 or a Camillus tl-29. No comment about them. The Kershaw Assisted opener stays in the pocket at the office. In the field nobody cares.

Carry a sheeple friendly one if you can, a SAK is considered fairly safe.
 
I've carried a knife in office settings for years. Over this time I've assembled my own list of common sense guidelines I use. I don't know if you'll find them useful, but they've worked for me...


1. Keep the knife appropriate to the setting. For an office, I always keep the blade <3 inches, sometimes even smaller. No uber-tactical knives. Try and avoid assisted opening knives. Knives with damascus, embellishments, etc. are more likely to be seen in a positive light than a black coated blade with "Commando Death Dealer" emblazoned on the knife.

2. Use the knife to help others. When someone is struggling with opening something, I make a point of using my knife to help, so that they can see the utility of having one and so that they associate a "warm fuzzy feeling" with the use of a knife. They've always been very courteous and thankful for the help. I've also offered to sharpen kitchen knives for folks -- something that is really appreciated.

3. Be careful how you deploy the knife. While we don't think twice about unclipping a knife, opening the blade with the thumbstud, cutting the intended item, and returning the knife to our pocket all in a few seconds, I've noticed that the speed of this event can freak people out. If you do it more slowly, they tend to react more positively to the whole experience. Their brain has time to process the event and the knife didn't "come out of nowhere" and surprise them. It also sometimes helps to deploy it two-handed, like you would with a knife without a thumbstud.

4. Let them handle the knife. When someone starts to freak out, I make a point of handing the knife to them and letting them hold it. This takes away some of their fear, and it subconsciously turns them into the knife person. It changes the perceived balance of power between the two of you. They find that they can hold the knife and amazingly it doesn't hurt them. It also gives you a chance to explain how the lock works (a huge mystery to most of them), that the frame is made of titanium (very cool to most people), the type of scale material, and other neat features.

5. Choose your knife terminology carefully. When I tell someone that I collect knives, I always use the term "pocket knives." It is more readily accepted by others, since I think it conjures up images of Grandpa's slipjoint, instead of the more "deadly" knives they fear. Also, NEVER tell them how many knives you have, unless you want to immediately be labeled a nut job.

6. Give knives to others. I make a habit that when someone expresses interest in my knife, I often will give them a small SAK to keep. I have a few on hand for these times, and it officially makes them one of us.

7. Be discreet. Never flaunt the knife or randomly play with it, even if you are by yourself in your cubical/office. Leave it in your pocket until it's needed, then use it, and put it away. You have lots of time to play with your knives at home, on the trail, and in other more appropriate places.


We should never be ashamed of carrying a knife, but a little common sense goes a long way in portraying knifeknuts as rationale, thoughtful people who mean no harm, but simply choose to carry this tool.

- Mark
 
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3. Be careful how you deploy the knife. While we don't think twice about unclipping a knife, opening the blade with the thumbstud, cutting the intended item, and returning the knife to our pocket all in a few seconds, I've noticed that the speed of this event can freak people out. If you do it more slowly, they tend to react more positively to the whole experience. Their brain has time to process the event and the knife didn't "come out of nowhere" and surprise them. It also sometimes helps to deploy it two-handed, like you would with a knife without a thumbstud.

7. Be discreet. Never flaunt the knife or randomly play with it, even if you are by yourself in your cubical/office. Leave it in your pocket until it's needed, then use it, and put it away. You have lots of time to play with your knives at home, on the trail, and in other more appropriate places.

- Mark

I usually go with these two. Seems to work out well, even with larger folders.:thumbup:
 
Even though I have some irritations like many here have with non-knife people, it's not an us and them problem to me. It is one of education. The non-knife people are part of our world and we interact with them sometimes by choice sometimes by neccessity [as in a work environment] and just like all human interactions there can be friction. My take is that we must recognize a partial duty to allay the fears of others although it would not neccessarily be our imperative duty, or even their right [as in a right to not be scared, they need to take charge of their fears like we all do].

If we saw someone with a shotgun or a bat walking down the street we would certainly take notice and be interupted by the sight, this is how the "sheeple" react to a knife, in most cases unfairly but such is life.
I will rarely if ever walk in public with a visible sign of a knife, clip or whatever, there are pocketable sheaths and IWB sheaths out there for most knives. The world and society have changed so I must change my ideas or face stagnation like a snake that does not shed it's skin dies.
 
I have a Para in D2 and Green G10. I also have a Mili in S90V and CF.

Many times I've pulled out the Para in the office for something and people exhibit no fear and usually ask to see the knife.

If I pull out that black Mili people dive for the windows. There is a HUGE difference in how people react. One inch more blade and a black handle and poof its a weapon!

Scott
 
Knives are not really a problem over here in the Netherlands.
My co workers are getting used to my knives but I scared one girl ones.

When she saw the knife she said "You can kill someone with that!"
I told her that a pen or my bare hands would also do the trick, you should have seen her face :D
 
Guess which one you can't legally have at work?

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Once I had funny situation with my manager. When I pulled my Leek to open the box, she seemed to be little confused.

Dialog:
Mng: Knife you are carrying is dangerous!
Me: Oh really? :rolleyes:
Mng: Yeah... you might stab someone or ...
Me: <pulling out 10" kitchen knife from under her desk> Ekhem... MY knife is dangerous?
Mng: ...

To be honest. About 80% of employees (about 2k people!) in our factory are carrying typical carpet cutters, and still security policy has a statement about "dangerous weaponry restriction", even when company itsels is providing the blades to the employees :D
Hopefully, nobody cares about it, and most of people are not reacting nervous.

A bit of OT colored with irritation :grumpy:
I don't know why law / internal policies or other s**t are restricting or even banning pocket knives with automatic deployment / one hand opening / lock or other "EXTREMELY DANGEROUS FEATURES", while you can get a 10" fixed blade for 5 bucks in every shop behind the corner :mad:
Paranoia, what more can I say.

I hope that law in my country will never-ever be changed :cool:
 
You are in an office, you don't need a folder. Just use a pair of scissors or a box cutter.

I don't know about you Tenacious, but I feel absolutely 'nekkid' without a folder on me. Perhaps the answer is a smaller deep pocket carry knife? Heck, I even kept a small folder in my vest pocket when I wore a 3 piece. Or, I could just be obsessive. ;)
 
I understand how people love carrying folders on them but in an office environment those 2 things would do anything you need. I hate to say it but rules are rules no matter how stupid they seem to be.
 
I set my office PC desktop wallpaper to my favorite blade shot.
It scares them to some extent, although it is just a laptop peecee :D
 
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