Why do YOU care what OTHER PEOPLE think of your knife?

[craytab]

Of course this is because of the fixed knife that they see on open display... Which is why it is a boatload of hassle to carry a fixed knife openly by its belt loop... For an officer to find a concealed knife on you he has to do a lot more than just stop you on the street...: He has to actually arrest and search you: What on earth could you possibly be doing that would require that?

Completely false. You never heard of a pat down? Of course you have. You contradict yourself in your own post:

If your behaviour has ever led an officer to search you, then you probably shouldn't be carrying any knife ever...

The trouble is, by carrying a fixed blade openly in an urban environment, you practically force the officer to at least do a token gesture about it... So you you are just wasting both his time and yours. If you are searched without probable cause, the search results get thrown out... The law is amazingly strict on this...

So which do you think is simpler?

Gaston

More garbage theory regarding your "theory" of carrying a fixed blade. Sorry, but not one person should listen to this.....

 

[Bobby3326]

Completely false. You never heard of a pat down? Of course you have. You contradict yourself in your own post:






More garbage theory regarding your "theory" of carrying a fixed blade. Sorry, but not one person should listen to this.....

The liberalism is strong with this guy.... Everyone should place his garbage anti fixed blade carry propaganda on the ignore list.

 

[zzyzzogeton]

Naw it's probably just the biker persona and the fact that if you're willing to show everyone a 10"blade they didn't wanna find out what they couldn't see, so they just kept their cool lol had you been driving a prius and been in plain clothes those cops would have surely harassed you according to Gaston.

Yep, those Prius drivers are a sketchy bunch. I mean, those cars are so quiet, the owners must be sneaking around, up to no good.

I resemble these remarks. I am one of those notorious Prius drivers who routinely carry MULTIPLE fixed blades openly. When I leave home, I have a pair of 5-1/4" bladed Kabar 125X, a BK11 and a pair of Buck folders. The Bucks are for when I need a small blade for a small task. The BK11 is for medium sized tasks and the Kabars are for anything else.

As an aside. I also drive trucks, tractors, fire trucks and passenger vehicles while openly carrying fixed blades on a daily basis with ZERO hassles by LEOs.

In Texas, I can, and do, carry any legal blade openly or concealed because the only thing that matters here is if the knife is legal or not. I take into consideration the circumstances and will carry other knives as I deem appropriate, not what I think other people want me to carry.

Take last night for example - I was invited to the quinceanera of the daughter of my sister's housekeeper. I packed along my Bucks, the BK11 and a pair of Kabar 1232s in pocket sheaths IN MY POCKETS not on my belt. My knives would have gotten in the way while dancing with the various women in attendance - ranging from 10 to 80. Two events happened while there that REQUIRED a knife.

First, whoever bought the beer accidentally bought non-twist-off cap DOS XX beer. All the other beers and soda were twist-off or pop-top. To compound the problem, no one involved with the drinks brought a bottle opener. Guess what opened all the DOS XX beers until a bottle opener was bought at a store and brought back to the fiesta??? My poor little FIXED BLADE BK11 with its built-in bottle opener. So much for being a moron or stupid or idiotic for carrying a fixed blade. Lots of folks down in Houston would disagree with those comments today. A whole bunch of Kabar/Becker BK11s are being bought today because of last night.

The second knife moment last night where a knife was required was when the Senorita Quinceanerita was presented with a surprise gift that was taped tight enough with enough clear packing tape to survive a nuclear detonation. He father was wearing a tight tuxedo and had chosen not to have a knife. Fortunately, several of her 8 uncles present DID have knives. She had her choice of at least 3 fixed blades, several folders and a switch blade to choose from. Rather than favor any particular uncle, she chose to use a different uncle's knife for each seam cut. Smart little 15 y.o. there.

I carry fixed blades for a variety of reasons.
1 - They are easier to use. None of this fishing them out of a pocket and opening it. Yeah, I know all about one-handers, AOs, OTFs, switchies and balis. An FB is still easier to "open".
2 - They are easier to clean and maintain. No slots, hinges, springs, button to oil/clean.
3 - They are inherently stronger that a folder. No pivot pins to break, slip out of position, gum up with dirt and oil. No locks to fail.

Know what I find way more moronic than carrying a fixed blade openly? People who don't carry fixed blades and make judgement calls on people who do.

Edit to add ---

4 - BECAUSE I CAN!!!

 

[Bobby3326]

I resemble these remarks. I am one of those notorious Prius drivers who routinely carry MULTIPLE fixed blades openly. When I leave home, I have a pair of 5-1/4" bladed Kabar 125X, a BK11 and a pair of Buck folders. The Bucks are for when I need a small blade for a small task. The BK11 is for medium sized tasks and the Kabars are for anything else.

As an aside. I also drive trucks, tractors, fire trucks and passenger vehicles while openly carrying fixed blades on a daily basis with ZERO hassles by LEOs.

In Texas, I can, and do, carry any legal blade openly or concealed because the only thing that matters here is if the knife is legal or not. I take into consideration the circumstances and will carry other knives as I deem appropriate, not what I think other people want me to carry.

Take last night for example - I was invited to the quinceanera of the daughter of my sister's housekeeper. I packed along my Bucks, the BK11 and a pair of Kabar 1232s in pocket sheaths IN MY POCKETS not on my belt. My knives would have gotten in the way while dancing with the various women in attendance - ranging from 10 to 80. Two events happened while there that REQUIRED a knife.

First, whoever bought the beer accidentally bought non-twist-off cap DOS XX beer. All the other beers and soda were twist-off or pop-top. To compound the problem, no one involved with the drinks brought a bottle opener. Guess what opened all the DOS XX beers until a bottle opener was bought at a store and brought back to the fiesta??? My poor little FIXED BLADE BK11 with its built-in bottle opener. So much for being a moron or stupid or idiotic for carrying a fixed blade. Lots of folks down in Houston would disagree with those comments today. A whole bunch of Kabar/Becker BK11s are being bought today because of last night.

The second knife moment last night where a knife was required was when the Senorita Quinceanerita was presented with a surprise gift that was taped tight enough with enough clear packing tape to survive a nuclear detonation. He father was wearing a tight tuxedo and had chosen not to have a knife. Fortunately, several of her 8 uncles present DID have knives. She had her choice of at least 3 fixed blades, several folders and a switch blade to choose from. Rather than favor any particular uncle, she chose to use a different uncle's knife for each seam cut. Smart little 15 y.o. there.

I carry fixed blades for a variety of reasons.
1 - They are easier to use. None of this fishing them out of a pocket and opening it. Yeah, I know all about one-handers, AOs, OTFs, switchies and balis. An FB is still easier to "open".
2 - They are easier to clean and maintain. No slots, hinges, springs, button to oil/clean.
3 - They are inherently stronger that a folder. No pivot pins to break, slip out of position, gum up with dirt and oil. No locks to fail.

Know what I find way more moronic than carrying a fixed blade openly? People who don't carry fixed blades and make judgement calls on people who do.

Edit to add ---

4 - BECAUSE I CAN!!!

I'll make sure to notify all Houston leo's to bolo for the crazy prius driving fixed blade monster...or perhaps Gaston would like the honor?

 

[Steve6387]

I care because I'm considerate.
I kinda like people and don't go out of my way to be provocative simply because I can .
I do carry a knife with me pretty much all the time. I simply try to be discreet and thoughtful about what knives I carry and brandishing them in public.

 

[NG VI]

The liberalism is strong with this guy.... Everyone should place his garbage anti fixed blade carry propaganda on the ignore list.

That's not liberal that's authoritarian, look at how he writes off any person ever patted down as a threat to society.

 

[Etna]

I care about what others think because the world and my country's rules do not revolve around me.

A year back there was a case of some nut in my country who got caught with a folding blade in his pocket while shopping. While the knife was legal to own, he was prosecuted and charged with a felony because our laws are very clear on the carrying of any knife; if it's not for work, recreation (think fishing or camping) or for religion, it has no lawful purpose outside of the home, period. Claiming self-defense is an instant charge for unlawful intention since the owner already has the intention of using it as a weapon. Claiming utility purposes in the event a need arises was not accepted as a credible defense as well; the judge ruled that cutting food is no excuse because most workplaces have pantries with kitchen knives, and there's no reason a package cannot be brought home to be opened or opened on the spot using keys as a makeshift cutting tool.

 

[strategy9]

If your behaviour has ever led an officer to search you, then you probably shouldn't be carrying any knife ever...

Dare I say it, my behavior has actually led a police officer to search me, more then once even... I even have been arrested, and (*gasp), spent time in the both the drunk tank AND the county jail!!! I'm certainly no saint, not by any stretch...

Never for anything violent persay, more stupidity then anything, and mostly on my younger days, but low and behold, it has happened...

upon release from the police station, AND also the county jail, it's funny how they always bid me farewell, tell me to stay out of trouble and to not come back, even tell me to have a nice day: and then.... Believe it or npt, they handed me back every one of my Knives, every single time...
"(It is different for being detained from court sentencing, obviously you dont carry a bunch of knives into court, but one time I was picked up on the street and placed immediately into custody, It was amusing upon being released from jail with 5 or so other guys, "criminals" mind you, when the guards are giving everyone back their personal belongings that they came in with to see the look on their faces when they're handing the 6'3" 200+lb tat'd up and bearded white guy, who was typically calm as can be, a "nice guy" the entire bid despite my appearance (unless provoked), a pocket knife, a large folding knife, and a 5" fixed blade)...

Anyways, I guess I should never carry any type of knife, ever (again), but seeing as how my Knives never got me in trouble, never aggrevated additional charges, and because i am not forbade to, I'm going to opt to continue carrying...

Fwiw, I'm not an anti cop type crook, I still have a good rapport with (most of) my local leo's, even those who have arrested me previously... If we cross paths in the street we chat and laugh, even though I have at least one knife in view be it a fixed blade and/or the clip of my folder... Same with the majority of c.o.'s from the jail, they all know I'm not a common criminal, and despite my past, and many flaws, I'm a good old fashioned and honest blue collar guy, who cares about his family...

Just food for thought.

 

[Insipid Moniker]

The liberalism is strong with this guy.... Everyone should place his garbage anti fixed blade carry propaganda on the ignore list.

Honestly, when you post political junk outside of the proper area you're a lot more likely to end up on my ignore list.

 

[Bobby3326]

Honestly, when you post political junk outside of the proper area you're a lot more likely to end up on my ignore list.

Don't talk about it, be about it.

 

[craytab]

Honestly, when you post political junk outside of the proper area you're a lot more likely to end up on my ignore list.

Political junk is just that :thumbup:

 

[Hawk45]

A knife is a tool, I carry the tool that works best for any situation I am going. If one tool is cooler looking that another, I will probably grab the cooler looking one. Cooler is subjective, so my GEC 73 may be considered not cool to some, as would my Spyderco Military be considered not cool to others. What counts is usefulness, and that is how I choose.

 

[NG VI]

A knife is a tool, I carry the tool that works best for any situation I am going. If one tool is cooler looking that another, I will probably grab the cooler looking one. Cooler is subjective, so my GEC 73 may be considered not cool to some, as would my Spyderco Military be considered not cool to others. What counts is usefulness, and that is how I choose.

Bang, something for everyone, that's enthusiasm!

 

[gonebad395]

While in Japan I asked a guy for a knife to cut a thread off my jacket this is what he pulled out seemed legit to me just saying.

 

[Akapennypincher]

In my long life I have learned not to let other influence my thinking. Had I listen to other who said I was nuts, had no chance, would starved to death. I would have never taken a chance and went for my dream career. I took the chance, survied the first year, and did ok for almost 25 years have the most fun job I could imagine.

If people want to tell you how to live your life, or what knife to buy extend your hand, and say the money for that please. Is easier just being your own person, and you will never make everone happy who you are.

JMHO

 

[Morrow]

The silly back and forth will stop.

 

[puukkoman]

I like to present an image of myself to the public, of a handy guy, a responsible user of tools, who uses the right tool for the job, and does it with a certain measure of class or style. I don't choose my knives based on what others might think, but I do avoid unnecessary overkill that might alarm the people around me. For example, I don't need to use a 4"-bladed, black-coated, combat-ready flipper to open a box, when a small Schatt & Morgan slipjoint will do the job. Also, on the other hand, I often carry a larger, pocket-clipped one-hand-opener, because it comes in handy when I need to access a knife quickly & with one hand during a job at work.

 

[draggat]

I must say, this is an interesting topic and for years, I never gave a rip about what others thought of the knife I was carrying or using. Recently, I realized that some of my own family members are frightened of some of the knives I use. The other day, my mom cried out about the 'weapon' I was holding..... my wife and I use a linoleum knife like this one to open and break down boxes..... I was pretty surprised because she even carries a knife in her purse. It hasn't really changed my attitude about carrying whatever I want, within the law of course. It's interesting what other people construe to be a weapon, even when it was never made to be a weapon and typically isn't used as one..... at least I don't think linoleum knives are used as weapons much. Of course, I could be wrong.



I have a few really nice smaller hawkbill blades, but these larger fixed ones work really well.

 

[Seriousbladeno1]

I've noticed an alarming phenomenon among members of this forum-set.. The concept of 'sheeple friendly'... I see people not picking certain knives because of how other people might percieve the knife. I see things like 'people get nervous when I pull out x knife'.. Or 'I use this knife when people are around because its not intimidating'.. Or something along those lines..
Why would you let someone elses stupidity/fear/ignorance dictate what choice you make for a cutting tool? If you were going to do that 'for realz' you would have to forgo carrying one at all.. Because maybe someone you might see, or that might see you with your knife wouldnt be comfortable around ANY knfe.
As a knife person, I have never once given any thought to what people NOT carrying MY KNIFE might think if they see it get whipped out and used, so this concern for other people's 'comfort' is completely alien to me.

Whatchu talkin bout, Willis? How do you justify it? Why bother? Whats wrong with growing a set and carrying what you like?

I never cared what other people think of knifes I bought, because I bought them entirely for purpose or pleasure (collection), as since young age I was a knife junkie, just really loving blades and hiking or bushcraft. Every knife have different spectre of use,some are actually only wallhangers, others can serve well in every conditions and be abused and used without scratch

 

[Akapennypincher]

I have a very good friend who did four back to back tours in the RVN. He was a Army SF Advisor who work with the RVN regular Army. Never got wounded, so there was no Purple Hearts on his pocket. Never did anything that was written up giving him a "V" on his single Bronze Star that was earned for meritorious service, not valor.

He considers himself "lucky" as the Purple Heart could have been postomious, or some other higher awards for heroism could have also been postumious.

Retired from the Army after 28 years, as a Master Sargent, now he battles prostate cancer from exposure to Agent Orange he is a hero.