"Why do you need....?"

I honestly don't think most people who ask a question the way that the op described it really are open to any logical arguments or reasons. So I just automatically go full retard on them. Pretty much a default response on my part and generally a rather obnoxious attitude to go with the one they presented me with.

Also I have found over the years that the more overblown and ridiculous way you respond can have a great effect on whether they ever bother you again. For instance there was a very aggressive church youth group at my high school. A popular way for them to invite you to there church was to tell you that you turn or burn. Well I was already going to a good church and active there I had no interest in changing but they just wouldn't go away. So I adopted a different attitude, what I said when confronted for the last time by a few of them was this "I'm a neolithic pagan and we sacrifice virgins once a year to a volcano, leave me alone or this year your it" worked like a charm and gave my friends fits of laughter.
 
cricketdave said:
I honestly don't think most people who ask a question the way that the op described it really are open to any logical arguments or reasons. So I just automatically go full retard on them. Pretty much a default response on my part and generally a rather obnoxious attitude to go with the one they presented me with.

Also I have found over the years that the more overblown and ridiculous way you respond can have a great effect on whether they ever bother you again. For instance there was a very aggressive church youth group at my high school. A popular way for them to invite you to there church was to tell you that you turn or burn. Well I was already going to a good church and active there I had no interest in changing but they just wouldn't go away. So I adopted a different attitude, what I said when confronted for the last time by a few of them was this "I'm a neolithic pagan and we sacrifice virgins once a year to a volcano, leave me alone or this year your it" worked like a charm and gave my friends fits of laughter.
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No doubt the few examples you gave here and on the first page would probably make even the most ardent zealot cease their proselytizing. And since we currently get to argue from authority, this will suffice. I most often attempt to reach some sort of hegelian dialectic, willing to even concede on certain regulations (won't get into it), in order to of course get people to see my side. There are more and more people that seem to be willing to abandon freedom for security, and for us, lovers of dangerous things, that may not bode well.

Yet, we shall see, on to fight another day. But as someone who is younger (25), living in the northeast, I seldom find those that agree (well except on the fast cars everyone wants to keep those). But on the firearms and knives issues it is not uncommon to hear people in my social circles to completely disregard the right of anyone to own anything other than a musket. And they wouldn't have much of a problem doing away with that either.

EDIT: and not just the northeast I might add. I spent a few years in Cleveland and it was a true rarity for anyone on campus to agree with gun rights. Seriously. Very hostile for gun rights there I remember.
 
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Wow! When I started this thread I expected maybe three responses. Must have hit a common nerve.

It is amazing where threads can go, though. Never dreamed it would turn into a political rukus. My post was totally about the tendency of some to presume that they are qualified to tell others how they should live their lives, in the guise of an implied "you don't need that." I can now see how such a topic going political is almost inevitable, though, and I think it is time for a moderator to close this thread.
 
MikeH said:
Wow! When I started this thread I expected maybe three responses. Must have hit a common nerve.

It is amazing where threads can go, though. Never dreamed it would turn into a political rukus. My post was totally about the tendency of some to presume that they are qualified to tell others how they should live their lives, in the guise of an implied "you don't need that." I can now see how such a topic going political is almost inevitable, though, and I think it is time for a moderator to close this thread.
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Naaahhh leave it running i think the political rukus has died down
 
MikeH said:
Wow! When I started this thread I expected maybe three responses. Must have hit a common nerve.

It is amazing where threads can go, though. Never dreamed it would turn into a political rukus. My post was totally about the tendency of some to presume that they are qualified to tell others how they should live their lives, in the guise of an implied "you don't need that." I can now see how such a topic going political is almost inevitable, though, and I think it is time for a moderator to close this thread.
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Mike, I think that we're through with the politics, so let's give it another chance. No worries, I'm watchin'. ;):D
 
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