why does everyone hate gerber.

Gerber is actually the company that got me started into knife collecting (unfortunately through the China made Paraframe and some aluminum handled one). Sure, they didn't take an edge, but I was using them for carving dowel rods into spears and smacking zip ties off of steel pipe. They were alright for the price, which was under $30. The locked solidly, and didn't fall apart in my hands. And above all else, they are infinitely better than S&W/Taylor made/gas station knives. Mystery paperclip metal be damned, they were good beater knives.
 
I wanted a light weight, cheap folder for short day hikes. I'm partial to orange and I don't have a problem with serrations. I took a chance and picked up the Bear Grylls Scout Folder a few weeks ago. Best $20 I have spent in a long time. No blade play. Very sharp out of the box. Exactly what I was looking for. I don't know much about BG, so his initials and name on the knife were really no different than having the words Gerber on there for me.

At the same time I bought the BG fire steel combo. For the money, a good steel with a place for cotton and a basic whistle seemed like a good deal. Another perfectly decent purchase from Gerber with no regrets.

A week or two ago, just for the hell of it, I bought the Compact Scout BG folder. Not nearly the same feel of quality. I returned it.

I know Gerber gets a lot of hate on here and this Bear guy certainly isn't making it better for some of the other survival "experts" here, but my little experience with Gerber has been just fine and certainly put them on my radar as a good company with a decent product.
 
I have ran into a few different people who thought Gerber was the abosolute epitome of pocket knives. Needless to say, they had never been exposed to anything of better quality. Gerber makes cheap knives that work for "non knife people" or someone who just wants a beater.
 
Judging by how many Gerber knives I see in everything from REI to lots of big box sporting goods store, I suspect they sell more knives than Spyderco or Bemchmade.

Your statement is probably true. But it is not how many knives a company sells that is important; rather, how many owners of those kives remain satisfied with their purchase years down the road. Quantity does not always equal quality.

My main problem with Gerber, as many others have stated here, is that they most often fail to print on the package what blade steel the knife is made of. Would I buy a can of soup that did not have the ingredients listed? I feel that Gerber does its customers a disrespect when not listing the blade steel. If you're cool with that company attitude, then so be it. The customer puts up the money. The customer deserves to know what they are getting.

And some seem to think that they are a good knife at their price point, but if I pay ten or twenty dollars more for another brand of knife that will last me twice as long under use, who's really saving money? In the long run, you rarely save money by buying cheap, because cheap products often wear out or break in less time than a better made (and initially more expensive) item. And when a knife fails, it can cause injury to the user. If the lock fails and the blade folds shut on my finger, I may need stitches, and that will definitely cost me more than if I had initially paid more for a knife with a better lock design.

And I don't think Gerber expects one of their buyers to be all that knowledgeable about knives or wilderness survival. They play to the uneducated consumer. If you can watch Bear Grylls give himself a water enema (here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtIG4TuVnvg ) and you then want to rush out and buy a knife just because his name is on it, go ahead. A more educated consumer will realize that a true knife designer such as Ethan Becker probably knows a lot more about outdoor survival and actually designs the knives bearing his name appropriately. And he's on this site: you can literally go talk with him over in the Becker subforum. Anyone here from Gerber? Nah, as a manufacturer of knives, they can't be bothered with folks who are passionate about knives. Your average knife buyer at a big box store probably has not taken much time to learn the roles of a knife in a survival situation: do I need carbon or stainless, are serrations a plus or minus, is this blade length adequate for processing firewood, etc. They will buy a Bear Grylls knife because they think it looks cool and is endorsed by Bear Grylls. That same 50-60 dollars could have bought them a much better survival blade if they had taken the time to look online or at a true knife shop. But they were already in Wal-Mart to buy dog food, a new toothbrush and the latest Lady Gaga CD, so they pick up the Gerber. They don't care about the warranty or customer service that Gerber gives compared to different knife companies. But they'll learn the hard way on that one: through experience. A bunch of us, myself included, bought Gerber knives when we were younger, broker and not-so-educated. Do I still buy Gerber? Nothing in the last few years. Maybe Gerber's only current compliment is that it does at least introduce new comers to the world of knives.
 
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Don't knock the Bear Grylls fixed blade. Other than the stupid serrations, it is an excellent knife. Takes a good edge, holds s good edge, and fits the hand well. The sharpener on the sheath is also just an awesome design, and all companies should do that. You may not use that sharpener, but it's good to know you can if you need to. The fire starter in the sheath is also a good design, and should also be taken up for all survival knives. As another person said here, Gerber is a company with many bad knives, but a few hidden gems. I would have multiple of the BG fixed blades if they were available with a full fine edge, not the stupid combo edge.
 
I have ran into a few different people who thought Gerber was the abosolute epitome of pocket knives. Needless to say, they had never been exposed to anything of better quality. Gerber makes cheap knives that work for "non knife people" or someone who just wants a beater.

You can't judge Gerber by the foreign made knives that are only related to Gerber by the etching on the blade.

Genuine Portland, Oregon Gerber knives are truly superb. The 154CM Covert is my favorite locking folder.
 
You can't judge Gerber by the foreign made knives that are only related to Gerber by the etching on the blade.

Genuine Portland, Oregon Gerber knives are truly superb. The 154CM Covert is my favorite locking folder.

So you are saying one of their higher end knives is good? To be expected. Gauge the quality of a company by the quality of their low end knives. The high end ones from every company will be their best, so you can't gauge their quality on their "best and brightest". If they make their low end knives total trash, then the company really isn't worth the time.
 
Cool another gerber thread, this will be probably a dozen or so that i have participated in:) at my house we have gerbers from various price points, from $15 to $60 or so and the ones we have are decent enough, no complaints... My Mini fastdraw has performed above any expectations i had for that little knife, gave it to my son a few years back, still kicking. The gerber profile fixed blade is a pretty good buy too, decent ergos, easy to sharpen, holds the edge okay not the best but for 20 bucks not too shabby. The bear grylls lock back is also a pretty good knife, my son bought one for running around in the woods and stuff, has held up good, would look better without the orange but thats just me. My freeman folder and hinderer rescue knife are both excellent F&F and the freeman is easy to sharpen and holds the edge well... all the gerbers we have lying around are imports, have never handled one made in portland, at least not yet!
I agree they arent forthcoming with the details knife nuts demand, but at least personally i try to judge each knife on its own. Gerber makes good and not so good, i havent handled one that i felt was dangerous or a complete piece of flea market garbage. Gerber has its places and they fill a niche.
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gene
 
It's because Gerber does nothing well. They are merely OK at everything. At every price range, there will be a better knife to buy than a Gerber one. $50 fixed blade? Buy The Original Ka-Bar. Folder? Spyderco, Cold Steel, SOG, any number of companies depending on price range and design.
 
It's because Gerber does nothing well. They are merely OK at everything. At every price range, there will be a better knife to buy than a Gerber one. $50 fixed blade? Buy The Original Ka-Bar. Folder? Spyderco, Cold Steel, SOG, any number of companies depending on price range and design.

depends on ones circumstances and opinions... i happen to think they've done a few of mine well, but what do i know i just own 'em and occasionally use 'em;)
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gene
 
This is news to me. Was there a petition I was supposed to sign?
 
This is news to me. Was there a petition I was supposed to sign?
:D NICE
We should compile a list of the number of times a hate/why hate gerber thread comes up vs. _______ (insert why/hate Manufacturer name Here) thread... Wonder how they'd do?
gene
 
ya it sucks there mostly made in china but there still good knives and the only chinese made knife i d ever buy. i have a profile that costs $15 and its better than my $50 american made ontario sp 15 spec plus lsa. and a $20 Evo thats as good a knife as a SOG flash 2.
 
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ya it sucks there mostly made in china but there still good knives and the only chinese made knife i d ever buy. i have a profile that costs $15 and its better than my $50 american made ontario sp 15 spec plus lsa. and a $20 Evo thats as good a knife as a SOG flash 2.

I don't want this to sound condescending but it doesn't seem like you have owned/used some of the nicer knives so that's why you think the Gerber is a good knife.

Sometimes nice doesn't necessarily equate to high cost, you can spend $30 on a Spyderco Tenacious or $70 on a Spyderco manix 2 and get a lot of knife for the money. Try one of those out then see if you still think Gerber is a good knife.
 
I don't want this to sound condescending but it doesn't seem like you have owned/used some of the nicer knives so that's why you think the Gerber is a good knife. Sometimes nice doesn't necessarily equate to high cost, you can spend $30 on a Spyderco Tenacious or $70 on a Spyderco manix 2 and get a lot of knife for the money. Try one of those out then see if you still think Gerber is a good knife.

Well that sounded pretty condescending:confused:
Can everybody please get over the fact that some people like their gerber knives, i have a couple i'm fond of and wouldnt hesitate to recommend. Live and let live.
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gene
 
Gerber is the Worst!!!
Gerber is the Best!!!

...Does not compute...does not compute....system failure.

Great you all just wrecked BladeForums!
 
I thought Gerber knives on the whole were great knives in the 80's and into the 90's. The good old LST for example, a slim little cutter that was hard not to like. Most of their other knives simply looked more..."real" back then. Nowadays when I see a Gerber they just look plain uninspiring and boring. The soul is lost somehow.
 
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