Why does Victorinox play hard to get with the perfect SAK?

Discussion in 'Multi-tools & Multi-purpose Knives' started by DoctorAutomatic, May 18, 2018.

  1. PirateSeulb

    PirateSeulb Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 6, 2017
    In absence of tweezers I just use the tip of the blade to dig things out but that is me.
  2. Stelth


    Jul 15, 2007
    If you want tweezers, put a pair of Uncle Bill's Sliver Grippers on your keyring. They are superior to what Victorinox makes and then you have no reason to eschew the Alox models. I've had a pair for about 20 years that I bought from Brigade Quartermaster. I've used them countless times and they actually get splinters out.
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  3. Etna


    Jun 17, 2015
    Not a chance. Our officers are quite strict on what we should not bring outfield for training in the forests, with keys and wallets being near the top of the list. So no keyring-attachable tweezers.

    Victorinox is going to have to pry the tweezers from my SAK out of my dead cold hands. :p
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  4. Stelth


    Jul 15, 2007
    I'm sorry your regulations have doomed you to settling for inferior personal care gear.
  5. L. Richard

    L. Richard

    Dec 20, 2006
    I don't need a "perfect" SAK. I enjoy most of the single and double layer Victorinox models. If I need a knife blade with a particular type of steel, or a special tool such as a magnifying glass, I can buy exactly what I want and stick it into my pocket, along with a SAK.
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  6. riversidedep

    riversidedep Basic Member Basic Member

    Nov 27, 2007
    The "perfect" SAK was made. Back in the 1980s. But they only made one and they sold it to a guy named "MacGyver."

    That knife could do anything.......
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  7. Etna


    Jun 17, 2015
    I love one-layer SAKs. Heck, I have all of the large one-layer SAKs (Sentinel series and Alpineer series).

    But under ideal circumstances, if I'm going to choose between a one-layer SAK or a modern folder, I'd much rather pick the modern folder. I feel like the one-layer exists to fill a huge need where people want to just carry a basic folding knife that has a Swiss cross logo on it to make it look more acceptable and less intimidating to non-knife people and authorities. Unfortunately, we live in a world where appearances matter, so the one-layer SAK is a godsend.

    The two-layer SAKs are perfect for a lightweight multitool but I can't get over how it feels sorta unbalanced when using the blade. The layer housing the blade is usually somewhat heavier than the underside, which make overall feel just that little odd.

    The three-layer is a mixed bag. Those can be horribly unbalanced to near perfectly balanced, depending on the types of tools installed in each layer. For aesthetic reasons, I love three-layer SAKs which have the blade installed in the middle layer. Most of my large three-layer SAKs are models featuring a center blade.
  8. Etna


    Jun 17, 2015
    Bah. Soldiers don't need to know about personal care. They just need to know how to fill the enemy with bullet holes. :D

    I kid. But in all seriousness, standing orders are there for a reason and I have no desire to question them. Although I do subvert some of the more outlandish orders. Discreetly, of course.
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  9. L. Richard

    L. Richard

    Dec 20, 2006
    When I carry a (single layer) Vic Bantam, it is not because it looks non intimidating; it is because it has a bottle opener and screwdriver. I may opt to carry a heavier GEC Boys Knife Crown Lifter or a Case Mini Trapper bottle opener model instead, or I may carry a Bantam in addition to a traditional slipjoint folder.
  10. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    I looked up your Uncle Bill's Silver Grippers. I suspect they work well, but I'm not going to add another occasional use item to my pockets that already have too much junk in them. I'll stick with the Vic SAK with it's tweezer limitations. It isn't like I use the tweezers every day or even every week.

    I also like the Bantam. I also carry it primarily for its tools along with a larger slip joint that has no tools.
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  11. jazzz


    Feb 1, 2009
    This annoys me a lot. The Classic, Signature, Executive, etc. I can't enjoy them properly this way. I love the key ring, but on the opposite side as the main blade, please.
  12. tiguy7

    tiguy7 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2008
    image.jpeg I use the SAK toothpick for spearing hors d'oeuvres. For dental picking work, I much prefer a curved, tapered stainless pick. It can push and pull to dislodge stuck food.
  13. Pomsbz


    Jul 31, 2015
    Can anyone confirm this? If true someone nearby could set up a service taking custom orders, fulfilling them at the store and mailing them out. I'd be a customer! I've modded a couple of SAK's but there is stuff I'd love to do which requires modding skills that I don't have. My current dream is an alox 93mm version of the Spartan with the thicker 93mm blades (big and small), a pruner blade instead of the can opener and the correct back tools. I'd be paying for it through the nose if I ever commissioned one, that's some considerable custom work, especially as the thicker small blade no longer exists on any model and the springs would have to be made from scratch.
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  14. jmh33

    jmh33 Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 16, 2003
    Small Tinker with a serrated main blade and serrated scissors....:D:p:D
  15. Frailer

    Frailer Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 25, 2009
    I don’t know if this *was* true, but as I understand it the Victorinox store in Mall of America has closed.
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  16. Rich S

    Rich S

    Sep 23, 2005
    Victorinox isn't playing games. There is no "perfect" SAK to satisfy everyone and I have 68 of them :-(
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