Why doesn't anyone make knives that compete with Cold Steel?

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Well, sounds like it's just Cold Steel for you then. Every suggestion so far has something about it you don't like. Nothing wrong with that, but doesn't look like any surprise suggestions are going to appear out of the woodwork at this point.
 
Look at the Spyderco, compared to a large Sebenza. Looks like Spyderco makes folders that have nice thick tips, if that's what you want.

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Finarfin said:
Sorry, but you clearly intended to besmirch my posting, shall I repost your's? You posted a photo and postured it as evidence that my accurate description of the Manix 2's tip was fallacious, which was of course silly, as I had already posted a pair of images clearly detailing the fragile nature of it's tip....
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No, I was merely showing intelligent users can make a choice in what they want and still use a Spyderco. I don't care if the Manix 2 has a thin tip, maybe I want a thin tip, for fine work. I need something thicker I can make the choice. I don't see it as a big deal, that different blades/knives have different capabilities.
 
crimsonfalcon- your "test", along with Ankerson's "test" and any of noss' "tests" don't actually test anything except that at a certain point (unrealistic within the scope of even the hardest use of a knife) is that a lock will break when beaten with a tonfa, sledge hammer, or what have you. The result was that you ruined a perfectly good knife. That is all.

When the lock on the Kershaw Blackout failed on me, the blade didn't move very far because of the AO spring, it didn't chop off my fingers :eek: or slit my wrist or go on an independent crime spree or any of the other horrors that internet knife forums teach you will happen with a failing lock.

Finarfin- what you are doing is what is known as trolling. You repeat the same statements over and over again without any fact or evidence to back them up except for a photo that may or may not be a manix 2. You haven't answered my question re: what you consider hard use, what you use your knives for, what do you do for a living that you use a knife hard, what tests have you performed that the manix tip snapped off or the lock is delicate, etc? You haven't done anything but come here and make a generalized statement, reiterate that statement over and over again without any other information, post a dubious photo and we are supposed to take it as gospel? what are your credentials that we are supposed to believe what you say as if it were fact?

calbeartactical- It doesn't make someone a knife snob if they buy something they can afford hoping it to be the best of the best. I don't buy anything more than a $100 knife because I can't afford it. I haven't bought a knife in a while over $50 bucks. Sure I would like to use a top end knife with a top end steel and a top end lock to test at my job but I can't afford it and if I lose it overboard, I can't replace it. I am perfectly content with a Byrd or a Tenacious or a Kershaw Blackout. Currently I use a cheap Snap-On Stockman and a Byrd Rescue. Both have done as well as any expensive knife I have ever used. There is no noticeable difference.

Jedi391- If you don't find Spyderco knives aesthetically pleasing, by all means, avoid them. I thought they were ugly when I first started using them as well, but they were strong and very functional innovative knives. I prefer the opening hole over the thumb stud, thumb disk or flipper, because it is ambidextrous and easily used with gloves on. There are plenty of Cold Steel knives that are held in high esteem on the forums. When fishing picks up and I get a little disposable income I am probably going to pick up a Recon or a Lawman for lobstering this summer.
 
CalBearTactical said:
I didn't say you were a knife snob, I meant to say that those people who have the most expensive knives and look down on other people who can't afford expensive knives is pretty snobbish.

Knife snobs remind me of those snobby high school rich girls that have to have the most expensive clothes and shoes and then laugh at the other kids with cheap clothes
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Ok, this I understand. I'm not a knife snob afterall. But my 2 JWS SD-3's are better than any knife anyone else has!:D;):)
 
jedi391 said:
Wow, I had no idea this post would generate this emotional of a reaction from some. Let me clarify myself. Price is a factor. I would prefer to stay at about $100 or under. The 4 inch blade length is a personal preference that I really want. I may be willing to go to 3.85 or so but no shorter then that. As far as strength I'm looking for something that locks up solid and in a pinch can handle light battoning and shelter building chores. My favorite knife as already stated is a CQC-15--with a liner lock--. Having said that I don't trust liner locks for things like battoning, others may but I don't.
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Don't baton folders. Period. Get a fixed blade.
 
Finarfin said:
outright childishness . . . identifies you as pure internet tough guy . . . starting to question the maturity level of a few of you . . . a really immature mind . . . the middle schoolers are done with the homework . . . Au revoir Les enfants . . . a few of your compadres, are children, ill behaved children at that . . . You, are a sore loser. . . I simply bid you, and the other young children good night . . .you're the bully . . .
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The volume of your name calling and insulting comments completely overshadows any validity in your argument about blade strength. One can make a rational argument that a Manix 2 is not suitable for "hard use", and discussing these kinds of pointless topics can be fun and even informative. But instead of characterizing you as the guy who has a defensible opinion about tip strength - and though I don't agree with you, you do have a defensible thesis - this thread may instead cause you to be known as the guy who insults people.

If a person earns that label, people begin to care less and less about what he has to say.

Just something to think about as you go forward.
 
CalBearTactical said:
if I had money to throw away I would do that but my $50 knife works fine for cutting things....I would rather use that $400 to stock up on ammo and get a new gun....in the real world people have priorities and are not in $1000 knife snobbery fantasy land.
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Truthfully a $10 Opinel would work better for cutting things than a lot of the $50 knives out there--even a lot of the $300+ would be out cut by the thinness of the Opinel. Some people buy things because they like them; there aren't a whole lot of things that people buy that they actually need. To be honest I never really got the whole gun thing so I can't really comment on that. I just don't believe that the majority of people in the "real world" buy $400 guns.

CalBearTactical said:
I didn't say you were a knife snob, I meant to say that those people who have the most expensive knives and look down on other people who can't afford expensive knives is pretty snobbish.

Knife snobs remind me of those snobby high school rich girls that have to have the most expensive clothes and shoes and then laugh at the other kids with cheap clothes
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Am I a knife snob? Probably. But I can afford to be because I work hard and forego things that a lot of people consider necessities--for example I don't own a television, I've paid to see a movie twice in the past four years, and I've spent less than $50 on video games in my entire life. I cook nearly everything I eat from scratch so I end up sending less than $70 a week on food.

Combine all that and I end up with enough disposable income to afford almost anything I want.

By the way, the most fun I've ever had with a knife was with a $40 Buck Nighthawk that I have regrettably managed to lose.
 
I'm just glad you guys aren't comparing the CS blades to Leeks... or this would've ended up a lot more awkward.
 
Cynic2701 said:
Truthfully a $10 Opinel would work better for cutting things than a lot of the $50 knives out there--even a lot of the $300+ would be out cut by the thinness of the Opinel. Some people buy things because they like them; there aren't a whole lot of things that people buy that they actually need. To be honest I never really got the whole gun thing so I can't really comment on that. I just don't believe that the majority of people in the "real world" buy $400 guns.
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$400 too high or too low in your eyes? That's not high at all for a good pistol or rifle. You can go reasonably inexpensive- the Ruger 10/22 rifle is about $200 most places, and the Ruger MK3 pistol about $300- but they go up from there. The Colt 1911 is about $700.
 
jedi391 said:
Everything I've heard about Spyderco is that they are gret well made knives and I don't doubt it. The problem I have is that I don't like the way they look. I know it's just cosmetic but I want to like the way it looks. Not a shot at Spyderco's quality, it's just looks thing for me.
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Ok, that is more than enough reason to not like spyderco. It is the same reason I dont like spyderco much, their knives perform outstandingly but I am not a huge fan of the looks at all. It does appear to me that cold steel may be your only option if you dont like liner locks. If you are looking for other knives you may want to check out Nutnfancy and wealljuggleknives on youtube. They tend to review a good number of larger blades and more budget friendly options. I really dont agree with nutnfancy on much but he does do in depth albeit biased reviews.

LMAO @ clowns considering "mall ninjas" to be people who buy cold steel knives......SMH.so basically mall ninjas are people that support knives with tri ad locks so they don't get injured from a knife malfunction.GTFOH knife snobs.
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No, a mall ninja is someone who buys a cheap blacked out knife for the primary purposes of use as a weapon and undefined hard use that a knife wasnt intended for. Or thats my opinion. As far as my opinion on trident locks, in any kind of real use meant for a knife ie cutting and even SD, a normal lock made by a good company wont fail. I consider myself more likely to cut myself with a triad lock on closing the knife than with any other knife's lock failing. This is due to the sheer effort it takes to depress the locking bar enough (it is worth noting my only triad experience is with the spartan) and the bear trap detent/bias towards closure that IMHO takes over when the blade is much too far from the handle. I have never slipped up on a knife, broken a tip, or had a lock fail, but I have accidentally closed knives on my fingers when I was stupid and not paying attention. The knives were sharp so I got nasty cuts, but because the detents werent super strong the cuts were not as bad as they would have been on a triad knife of equivalent sharpness.
 
CalBearTactical said:
LMAO @ clowns considering "mall ninjas" to be people who buy cold steel knives......SMH.so basically mall ninjas are people that support knives with tri ad locks so they don't get injured from a knife malfunction.GTFOH knife snobs.

Mall Ninjas are the ones that buy cheap knives and swords etc. from swap meats and liquor stores.
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Close. Now include there over the top advertising and who it is directed towards and you are beginning to understand that they are into the mall ninja market.;)
 
Two hundred thirty-five posts and the information content of this thread is not increasing. The personal attack content is, though. I think we've learned everything we need from this. Closed.
 
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