Why don't chris reeve and mick strider do what hinderer does?

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Chris reeve and Mick strider should do what Rick Hinderer does. He colaberates with companies to make more affordable knives with similar designs to his to help feed the lower budget people and give people a chance to try out his design before dropping half a grand on it.

I don't get why they don't do that, i don't see how it could do anything but benefit them.
The things i think it will accomplish are as following.
1. Help deter the low cost buyers away from the china rip off fakes (seems like buying a fake is a sin in the knife community. Its like the equivalent of taking your Hyundai and putting a BMW emblem on the front). Make an affordable closely looking production knife that your benefiting from and people wont want a fake.

2. Now i think this is a big one. If you do what Rick Hinderer does and make a budget design, then a high end design like the cryo and then the 0560 you will have people taking steps towards your knife. "Oh man the cryo is amazing i wonder if it can get better?! *buys the 0560* Omg its so great, but its not perfect.. I wonder... *buys a xm18* WOW its... its so.. its sooo.. *saves for anther xm18*" From my research i see that there was the buck strider but it got discontinued, also CRKT made some type of sebenza thing.

What does anyone else think? If Chris reeve and strider picket a company and made a 80$ knife with like Aus 8 vg10 or 154cm blade steel and maybe a aluminum scale and a steel frame lock. Then a high end 200-250$ knife and use the ti and s30v steels but just don't have that perfect fit and finish and tight tolerances.

Wouldn't that be like gateway drugging into the expensive blades?
 
Strider did that with the ZT 0300 series.

And with the Buck/Strider Model 889.
 
You can find a CR colab on the Fantoni Razionale

[video=youtube;P3OjRpybo0o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3OjRpybo0o[/video]
 
Ankerson said:
Strider did that with the ZT 0300 series.

And with the Buck/Strider Model 889.
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Yea but the zt 0300 series shows very little similarity with a actual strider, and they discontinued the buck strider, i already mentioned the buck strider and CRKT sebenza, With people mentioning them both it makes me feel like you guys read the first sentence then shot a response of common knowledge.
My whole point is a introduction to the knife design. I know they think they are the best of the best and only a special group of people appreciate them, but more people would be more willing to spend that kind of money on a knife if they got the opportunity to try out the design in a budget package first.
 
Smokinape said:
I'd love to see a Reeves / Lynn Thompson Cold Steel collab...
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Yea, or what about a reeve/spyderco colab, that seems like it would be heaven for the way people here feel about those companies. Strider and Cold steel would be a better colab then reeve and cold steel because strider is know for their toughness and so is cold steel.
 
Same logic as why Mercedes or BMW will never do the bandwagon ECO car.

Deign themself to make some cheaper knives might be a bet to tarnish their prestige .
 
SomeNewGuy said:
Yea but the zt 0300 series shows very little similarity with a actual strider, and they discontinued the buck strider, i already mentioned the buck strider and CRKT sebenza, With people mentioning them both it makes me feel like you guys read the first sentence then shot a response of common knowledge.
My whole point is a introduction to the knife design. I know they think they are the best of the best and only a special group of people appreciate them, but more people would be more willing to spend that kind of money on a knife if they got the opportunity to try out the design in a budget package first.
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There really isn't a cheap way to get into a Strider Design.

Strider has no problem moving their knives, they sell faster than they can make them, plus the Military contracts.

There isn't a special group of people at all, MOST people can afford $400-$500 if they really want too, and are into knives, CRK or Strider, or any other higher end knife for that matter.

Saving up, budgeting money for what they want as they do with other products.

But don't think those higher cost knives are going to be 2 or 3 times better than one that costs in the $200 range overall, they will be different, built to higher tolerances, for specific purposes and they are worth it, but they aren't going to be earth shattering.
 
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I don't really have any useful information on this topic, but I would love to see some CRK/Sypoerco colab. I would be very interested to see how melded the two brands.
 
Ankerson said:
There really isn't a cheap way to get into a Strider Design.

Strider has no problem moving their knives, they sell faster than they can make them, plus the Military contracts.

There isn't a special group of people at all, MOST people can afford $400-$500 if they really want too, and are into knives, CRK or Strider, or any other higher end knife for that matter.

Saving up, budgeting money for what they want as they do with other products.
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So there successful, and that means they should stop trying to expand and be more successful? With the cars they make it so pretty much anymore can get one between monthly payments financing down payments trade ins and leases.
 
If they are already successful then why try to dilute their brand? Not everyone wants to be Buck
 
Wow! You have really gotten up to speed quickly for a guy new to knives!

SomeNewGuy said:
Hi guys, I'm new here.
To start ill introduce myself. You guys may or may not know my cousin ChrisFa. I am starting to get into liking knives and he suggested that i register here and ask around for some advice when I asked him for advice. ...
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I feel like maybe it would be a good time to find a new knife to get. Now i don't know where to start, I spent 45$ for the SOG. I'm not sure what i should spend to buy a good quality long lasting blade.
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It's like you have been around here for ages! Not like a guy who has only been around for a couple weeks.

Anyway...back on topic...

Why don't they do that?

Because they have been making plenty of money using their current business model. If it ain't broke, you don't fix it.
 
SomeNewGuy said:
So there successful, and that means they should stop trying to expand and be more successful? With the cars they make it so pretty much anymore can get one between monthly payments financing down payments trade ins and leases.
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Why would they want to devalue their brands?

And eat into their high end lines?

Don't get me started on the car thing.....

People will go out and get a $40,000 SUV, or 2, get every new gadget that comes out, but bulk at spending more than a few hundred on a knife.....
 
Ankerson said:
Why would they want to devalue their brands?

And eat into their high end lines?
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Expanding your consumer base and your product line up doesnt mean devaluing their brand. Did Rick hinderer devalue his knives that people are more then willing to spend 600+$ on by colabing with kershaw and even gerber?
 
marcinek said:
Wow! You have really gotten up to speed quickly for a guy new to knives!



It's like you have been around here for ages! Not like a guy who has only been around for a couple weeks.

Anyway...back on topic...

Why don't they do that?

Because they have been making plenty of money using their current business model. If it ain't broke, you don't fix it.
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Because im home all day every day besides like 2 days a week so i haven't had anything to do besides read and watch youtube especially since i don't have cable on my tv, only time i watch cable is when I'm at Chris's or my girlfriends.
 
SomeNewGuy said:
Expanding your consumer base and your product line up doesnt mean devaluing their brand. Did Rick hinderer devalue his knives that people are more then willing to spend 600+$ on by colabing with kershaw and even gerber?
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Those knives are $385.......

It's the secondary market with those huge markups that make them more expensive, and the fact that they aren't available in large quantities.

Hardly the same as Strider and CRK.
 
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