Why dropping spydercos?

springnr said:
He also really likes that Benchmade made it so websites have to charge 15% under MSRP or more because he thinks its shows that they take care of their brick and mortar dealers.
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I have not bought a Benchmade since they incorporated that policy. Guess about a decade back.
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Just to add, to become a Spyderco dealer, you have to have a brick and mortar store. Again, if you don't have a physical store, you cannot be a dealer. Spyderco's own way of taking care of brick and mortar dealers. Just in case things get confused as recent posts here have been misleading, like Spyderco are out to hose the mom and pops when you cannot even sell Spydercos if you are only an online dealer. So the dealers we see with good prices online are brick and mortar stores also.
 
FCM415 said:
Just to add, to become a Spyderco dealer, you have to have a brick and mortar store. Again, if you don't have a physical store, you cannot be a dealer. Spyderco's own way of taking care of brick and mortar dealers. Just in case things get confused as recent posts here have been misleading, like Spyderco are out to hose the mom and pops when you cannot even sell Spydercos if you are only an online dealer. So the dealers we see with good prices online are brick and mortar stores also.
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Is there an Amazon "Brick and Mortar" store somewhere? Cause they've been selling Spydercos for as long as I've been shopping there, and I thought they were just an online store. What about Knifecenter, I was also under the impression they were just an online seller...
 
DShiflet said:
Is there an Amazon "Brick and Mortar" store somewhere? Cause they've been selling Spydercos for as long as I've been shopping there, and I thought they were just an online store. What about Knifecenter, I was also under the impression they were just an online seller...
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Knifecenter has a physical location, and they do sell items from this location, so I guess that qualifies them. Also correct me if I'm wrong, but Amazon is more like a marketplace of sellers with fixed prices. If you look at the description of an item, it usually lists what company or person is selling it.
 
mban112 said:
The guy at the local army surplus said they were old fashioned.
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His comment should have told you he knows nothing about knives.
Spyderco is a very innovative company, and gives us more options in modern steels than any other company.

Another martial arts place said they were getting too expensive, but he was selling all sorts of high dollar stuff, like gold class benchmades.
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I think this guy knows less than the guy at the Army store. I hope you realized he didn't know what he was talking about, or that he was just making up crap.

Why the loss of love for spyderco?
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There is none. You'll realize one day that some people just don't have a clue about what they speak of.
 
Ken44 said:
Spyderco is a very innovative company, and gives us more options in modern steels than any other company.
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This^^^.

If someone asked me who I thought was the production knife company most devoted to a knifenut like me, Spyderco would get my vote hands down.
 
RemyKaze said:
Knifecenter has a physical location, and they do sell items from this location, so I guess that qualifies them. Also correct me if I'm wrong, but Amazon is more like a marketplace of sellers with fixed prices. If you look at the description of an item, it usually lists what company or person is selling it.
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That and Spyderco is a seller on Amazon.
 
RevDevil said:
I don't think your "local army surplus" has the foggiest idea on what's what. Cutting back is one thing, but being out of stock is whole other turkey shoot.
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Lol,,an army surplus store is about the last place on the planet I'd expect to find a high end knife.:confused::)
 
FCM415 said:
... Spyderco's own way of taking care of brick and mortar dealers....
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They are not dictating price to the market place. There are many ways to sell items, as seen by BBS's pricing, some carry over a million dollars in inventory, others $5000. Not all vendors survive their choices. Free market.
 
tempey said:
The guy that buys knives for my local knife store said that he doesn't like buying Spyderco because they know they have to sell them for less than they want to because you can buy them so cheap online. He said that he doesn't like that Spyderco knows that they sell the knives cheap online and "don't care about their dealers enough to put a stop to online retailers selling them so cheap." He also really likes that Benchmade made it so websites have to charge 15% under MSRP or more because he thinks its shows that they take care of their brick and mortar dealers. Needless to say I don't buy knives their that cost more than about $50
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That policy is about the Benchmade seller ADVERTISED price. Several large knife web dealers get around this legally by only showing their actual online price to customers with accounts who are signed into their account or after the item is in your shopping cart and you have started the checkout process. True "fair trade" laws which allowed manufacturers to control the actual minimum selling price of an item were made illegal by court decision in the 1960s or so IIRC.

Actual selling price for Benchmade knives is whatever the seller wants to set it at and as noted some sellers exceed the BM 15% off MSRP advertised price limit by a lot, including some Bladeforums member dealers.
 
tatfiend said:
That policy is about the Benchmade seller ADVERTISED price. Several large knife web dealers get around this legally by only showing their actual online price to customers with accounts who are signed into their account or after the item is in your shopping cart and you have started the checkout process. True "fair trade" laws which allowed manufacturers to control the actual minimum selling price of an item were made illegal by court decision in the 1960s or so IIRC.

Actual selling price for Benchmade knives is whatever the seller wants to set it at and as noted some sellers exceed the BM 15% off MSRP advertised price limit by a lot, including some Bladeforums member dealers.
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A lot of websites I have seen will also have permanent Coupon Codes to enter at checkout to their real price on the knife
 
mban112 said:
Then don't shop in Kansas City because that's all that's here as far as finding a wide assortment of knives.
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Yeah man. There no local knife shops around here. Maybe that will change with the recent legalization of autos and what-not.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Spyderco is having so much trouble selling their knives at these cutting edge venues that ... they had to expand their factory !!

Huh?

Please. Put facts in gear before engaging argument.
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Yeah things must be really bad when they can't keep up with the demand. :D
 
RemyKaze said:
Knifecenter has a physical location, and they do sell items from this location, so I guess that qualifies them. Also correct me if I'm wrong, but Amazon is more like a marketplace of sellers with fixed prices. If you look at the description of an item, it usually lists what company or person is selling it.
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That's now. Amazon started as a giant warehouse operation. They still do this, as well as the "marketplace" where you can buy from other sellers whose prices, btw, are far from fixed. If you pick an item from a random seller (Reds Gear, for example--I've never bought anything from them, but I have watched prices on some things they sell), you can sometimes watch the price go up and down over the course of a day or two. Also, if you look at some of those other sellers listings, it still says "fulfilled by Amazon" which sounds to me like some of that stuff still comes from:
[video=youtube;5AVpuCMIk2A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AVpuCMIk2A[/video]
 
I find Spyderco around here as much as I find Benchmade. Sadly, most places just want to sell $10 cheap China knives. That being the case I buy most of my higher end knives online like Spyderco. I never find Benchmade on sale and have very few.
 
around here they stopped selling spyderco because every one they received arrived damaged.

they each had a hole clean through the blade
 
goodeyesniper said:
around here they stopped selling spyderco because every one they received arrived damaged.

they each had a hole clean through the blade
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Holy cow!

I'll cut 'em a deal and buy his broken knives with holes in the blades for ten cents on the dollar. ;)
 
hank_rearden said:
.., plus a discount if they bad-mouth spyderco thereon.
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Can't believe the OP posted this. Just asked the SAME question at our Phoenix Cabela's two nights ago. Counterman rolled his eyes and commented something about "their warranty problems", and then I told him I had three on me at the time. :grumpy: Still, they had four Hogues, with two north of $200, and an Adamas and a Contego from the BM side.
 
In general, I've never seen as many Spydercos for sale in brick and mortar shops as some of the others. Cheapies, Buck and Gerber seem to own the big box places, with some CRKTs, SOGs, and Kershaws mixed in. I see Benchmades for sale at high prices in gun shops, but again, Spyderco, not so much.
 
I live in a city with a population of over 750,000 and I can count on one hand the number of stores I've seen Spyderco's in. And only one of those stores carried more than a couple of models and their prices are strictly mfrs. list.
 
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