Why has the new Foundry not caught on? Part 2

Barman1 said:
I like the Foundry and I'm willing to bet that most of the posters here have never experienced more than a photo of the knife before posting an opinion. :rolleyes: It's a solid knife but could use a bit more thickness in the handle for my hand. Ergo my plan for an inlay, such as it is.
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I'll readily admit you have a great point. For example, I handled an Endura and 0350 yesterday for the first time. Both were far better than I had imagined, and now I want an Endura. The frame-lock will always be a deal-breaker for me though, too.
 
Barman did have a great point, however, that logic only works well in a perfect world. I'm sorry but I don't have access to a Spyderco dealer very often in these parts to handle all Spyderco has to offer. Just like many others here, I have to make an assumption on a purchase by: aesthetics, specs and consumer experience. I chose to meet and strike up a conversation with this woman based on aesthetics alone...then later I liked the specs, so I bought in and kept her. ;):D She's my wife for almost 20 years now.

So, the point that an opinion on a knife has very little validity unless you handle it first is not an accurate way for me to decide if I want to make the purchase. But, in fairness I will concede just a bit here. Some years ago, I was all jazzed up over the looks and specs of the CR Sebenza. I wasn't a big fan of the cost however, but I did not dismiss the notion that I could very purchase such a knife. Then I held one in the store and decided I didn't really like it that much. So, sometimes handling before judgement/purchase does work.

As far as the Foundry is concerned, its a fine specimen of Spyderco awesomeness, its just not what I want in a knife.
 
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(not to be snotty but you mean aesthetics not ascetics, they are very different!)
I will say that I handled a proto of the foundry a couple years back and it was indeed very comfortable.
 
I'm sure it appeals to some, but I don't like the following:
- I am not a big fan of designs printed on scales, or even anodizing, because it wears off eventually and then looks terrible.
- Blade shape (wide, with upswept tip) does not appeal to me
- 151g is heavy for less than 3 inches of cutting length. My M4 Military is 145g, GB is 155g !
- Price
 
Wow, those are all very good points. I guess I missed thinking about the Marcin Bowie as I was lucky enough to have a custom one made that I edc'ed for quite some time (incredible knife). If I didn't have one I must say that I would have chosen Spyderco's version over the Foundry without thinking twice. So I really understand where you guys are coming from. Still, I think that its ergos are excellent and I really love the blade steel, and blade shape. But when the Spyderco Nirvana comes out I will probably forget that I own it. Thanks guys and take care.
*One last question, is lock stick at all common with the Spyderco MS Bowie (oh, how I hate lock bar stick)? Thx.
 
I wrote a review of it over on the Spyderco forums.

I liked it. Wouldn't want to pay the cost for one, but it felt absolutely amazing in hand. Heavier than the Ti framelocks I'm used to, but a nice heft. Felt like a working tool. Handling it made me want to buy one, as the feel (comfort, heft, design) all screamed "Use me!" Excellent, excellent design.




 
It is kind of pricey for an all steel folder.

It also has more belly than I prefer for EDC tasks. Looks like a skinner to me. Not a deal breaker though.

Make it in G10 and I am in. Unfortunately I see it coming in the now common G10 on one side and ti frame lock on the other, which isn't my favorite, long before it becomes a g10 liner lock.
 
The angle of the pocket clip just grates against my design sense of right and wrong .
I love all Metal knives and this would be on my Radar if it didn't have the wire pocket clip on a out of line angle with only a tip up option .
I only have tip down knives now .
Its a shame because it looks like a nice knife .

Ken
 
It's in many ways just a slightly bigger Sage2, and the Sage series while highly regarded and rightfully so, I never warmed up to.

I have a strong dislike for that upswept belly toward the tip. Hate it even on the Slysz Bowie.

I do like the straight spine, prefer it over the leaf shape. I know that everyone is in love with titanium but I personally don't consider STEEL to be inferior. Sure it's heavier but people make it seem like steel is this horrible material when compared to Ti which is amusing to me. In short, steel is not a dealbreaker for me.

Price is too high (for me). A lot of the newer Spydercos are getting up there so Im getting pickier on which and how many I actually buy. Im willing to bet that many others are the same way. Had this been priced closer to $100, many would consider it the best thing since sliced bread.
 
Sometimes one knife gets overlooked when it's released around the same time as another that's getting plenty of attention. I'm personally becoming somewhat tired of framelocks and have been starting to look for alternatives lately. I don't see anything wrong with the knife, but other knives are getting my attention right now.
 
harronek said:
The angle of the pocket clip just grates against my design sense of right and wrong .
I love all Metal knives and this would be on my Radar if it didn't have the wire pocket clip on a out of line angle with only a tip up option .
I only have tip down knives now .
Its a shame because it looks like a nice knife .


Ken
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I thought the same thing until I had it in hand, then it makes sense. Having it angled like that means that the knife is tucked back into the seam of your pocket when clipped; it stays completely out of the way when you reach into your pocket. I agree it looks odd, but damn does it work well.

The blade is just like an upscaled Manbug.
 
Just saw this knife for the first time. I call it an unfortunate miss. The irony is, its a really nice looking knife. Unfortunately the heavy, slippery, stainless handles with the gaudy logo are a complete deal killer.

If this knife had G10 handles and was competitively prices, it would be on my top 5 Spyder want list.

What a shame. Bleh.
 
blade man said:
I wrote a review of it over on the Spyderco forums.

I liked it. Wouldn't want to pay the cost for one, but it felt absolutely amazing in hand. Heavier than the Ti framelocks I'm used to, but a nice heft. Felt like a working tool. Handling it made me want to buy one, as the feel (comfort, heft, design) all screamed "Use me!" Excellent, excellent design.




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Two winners -- I have and love both!
 
Sonnydaze said:
You've already said that. Many of us prefer them and buy them over other lock systems. Personal opinion is just THAT.
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I know its personal opinion. Isn't it great that Spyderco makes soooo many differant lock styles to fit everyone's "personal opinion" ?

Just like you prefer frame locks, others like me avoid them. Since the thread title asked why the Foundry isn't popular I stated my reason for not owning one.

Then it was suggested by another poster that anyone who hasn't held one has no reason not to like the Foundry. Thus my sacastic second post which you quoted.

Sorry I am just tired of framelocks, have owned quite a few, tastes change.
 
I think it looks cool but the price is a little high for me. Also I don't mind a titanium handle but a steel handle for the price isn't my preference.
 
Gotta wonder if this may be one of those knives that in 5, 10, 15 years people are asking why it isn't still around and start pleading for a Sprint...

I like the story behind the knife, but the design just doesn't catch my attention enough to purchase.
 
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