Why I don't like thumb holes

Having now spent a month actually working a large Manix every day, I can honestly say I like that thumb-hole more than ever! (But I will learn to dull out that sharp inside edge next time...:o )
 
jim preston said:
Nice video- I'll have to try that.
Unfortunately, my Byrd has a hole that is long and thin. Why they couldn't put a hole on their value lines, absolutely confounds me.
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I'm sure that has to do with keeping the identity of the Spyderhole "pure". While the Byrd line IS made by Spyderco, the two lines have different priorities: Byrd offers great value, Spyderco offers top quality and performance. If they were to use the round hole in the Byrd line, it would be possible for someone to assume a Byrd is the same as a Spyderco, which it is not.

I guess the bottom line is, if you like the round hole and top quality, you need to step up to Spyderco. If you want something that is a very good knife and a great value, then you might have to compromise on the shape of the hole.
 
I like both t-studs & t-holes.I really like the thumbhole on the Byrds,more so than the round ones on the regular spydercos.I think the Byrd's thumbhole is acctually an improvement on the idea & wish Spyderco would incorporate that in their newer models.
 
jim preston said:
Nice video- I'll have to try that.
Unfortunately, my Byrd has a hole that is long and thin. Why they couldn't put a hole on their value lines, absolutely confounds me.
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The Byrd hole might look weird at first, but that doesn't affect the flick-ability :p, as you would only need to apply the force onto the "round" section of the hole. I would suspect your pivot might be too tight, my Tasman actually needs less force to thumb-kick open than either my 14210 or 943. Hope that helps, and good luck practicing :thumbup:;)
 
This got me to thinking. Dangerous I know, I took out all of my Spyderco knifes - 6 Delicas, 2 Militarys, 1 Para, Caly3, Salt 1, Talsman, 3 Enduras, 2 Natives, Centofante 4, 2 DragonFlys, 20 knives in total all with holes. Everyone opened the first time without a wrist flick. Most have been sitting a good long while without routine lubrication. Pinned and screw construction - all opened up easily. Jim Preston maybe you need to develop your thumb muscle.
This wrist flick thing is a non issue.
 
To be fair, I don't think it's the thumb muscle :p because he can kick open with stud but not the hole, just need more practicing I guess ;)
 
LowTEC said:
I now see there are people cannot open with a hole efficiently, while "my way" is not necessarily "the right way" but
hopefully my crappy video can show you guys a Spyderhole is extremely effortless to open with a light flick of the thumb, without needing flick your wrist AT ALL :thumbup: [URL=http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/LowTEC/knife/?action=view&current=compare.flv][/URL]
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Hey LowTEC, nice vid :thumbup:
you've got some strong "thumb muscles" :rolleyes::yawn::D
 
A little practice is all that's required, and you can flick them all open.
I use the same technique on my Spydies.
 
Same for me, I'm sure spyderco builds a good quality knife, but I HATE THAT STUPID HOLE. The one spyderco I bought many years ago a Bob Terzula, I gave away after about two days of carrying. Could not stand that hole, it was like the blade was broken and someone needed to fill that hole in with metal.

All my folders now have thumb studs and while not the best for me, its better than the sypdie hole, I think the best thing would be a modfiied opening disc that is an intergral part of the blade.

Just my opinion.
 
I deal with thumb holes just fine, if you change carry type often as I do keep in mind whick type of knife you have on you at the time.
 
I am able to flick open knives with opener holes exept the liner lock is in the way (i am leftie, so that does matter).

AFCK, Grippie, Vex, no problem. No experience with Spyderco.
 
Perhaps I'm missing the point here, but why is it important to be able to flick any knife open, wrist action or not?

The Spyderco thumbhole allows the blade to be rotated open in a single continuous smooth motion as the blade turns (at the hole) under the ball of the thumb. This works flawlessly and with perfect manual control, as slow or as fast as the user desires (e.g. in less than a second), left or right handed. :D

If the point is opening speed, just how much faster does anyone need to open a knife? :rolleyes:

Ray :)
 
If the point is opening speed, just how much faster does anyone need to open a knife?
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It's not really a question of need, unless your an EMS or on Deadliest Catch or something like that. Most of us could get buy with just carrying a slipjoint (and indeed many of us do), but some people, myself included, like to hae their knives open as quikly as possible- that's people sell assisted openers.
Personally, the highest evolution of one-handed opening is the Carson Flipper tab.
 
I can open my Spydies in a half dozen ways and I can only manipulate a thumbstud in one way. I find thumb holes simply more fun for me to play with, easier to use when wet, faster on the draw, and easier on my hands. I can pop open an Endura or Military or Manix with a good flick of the thumb and minimal wrist movement. I can open them by Spyder drop, wrist flick, centripetal force, two handed, one handed, left handed, right handed. I can open my 530 and Sebenza with my thumb. The hole is ugly, but it grows on you. If you follow through with your thumb you will not need any flicking on a Spydie.
 
My M-16 took a few times to get down without having to flick my wrist and on the Trance it was just a matter of finding the right spot on the thumb stud and now I can get it open by just using my thumb to flick it open.
 
Personally, the highest evolution of one-handed opening is the Carson Flipper tab.
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Notwithstanding AOs and autos.
CRKTs come very tight out of the box. Adjust the screw, and your knife will be much easier to open.
I do not have any experience with the Trance.
The flipper tab is what works best for me.
 
jim preston said:
It's not really a question of need, unless your an EMS or on Deadliest Catch or something like that. Most of us could get buy with just carrying a slipjoint (and indeed many of us do), but some people, myself included, like to hae their knives open as quikly as possible- that's people sell assisted openers.
Personally, the highest evolution of one-handed opening is the Carson Flipper tab.
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Sorry......but it seems the same motor skills are involved, no matter type of one hand opener - To me ready and immediate access to the knife in an emergency, is more critical than the method of opening - I have seen many thumb stud knives "flicked" open with just the thumb so fast they appear to be automatics. I really don't care, because the thumb hole to me is just as fast as any other method.

But, assisted openers do sell extremely well. :D
 
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