Why isn't Magnacut more available in production knives?

[Alberta Ed]

I'm looking forward to trying a small-ish, pocketable FB in Magnacut if I can find one. Something like Bark River's Fox River model. OK, just ordered a Guardian 3 from Bradford. Thanks for the suggestion, Quiet.

 

[Quiet]

I'm looking forward to trying a small-ish, pocketable FB in Magnacut if I can find one. Something like Bark River's Fox River model.

I can highly recommend the Bradford 3 model in your scale color of choice. I've carried one off and on since June and it's a phenomenal EDC fixed blade. Really a fantastic knife. Also, Bradford Knives is run by a great husband and wife team who aren't dirtbags like Mike Stewart, which is a huge plus.

Edited to add: I've used this knife for months for everything from opening the mail to processing food tasks, and it's still as shiny as the day I picked it up off Bradford's table at BLADE. None of this "Well see, the belts must have impregnated the Magnacut blades with steel dust from other metals and THAT'S why our Magnacut blades quickly develop a patina" malarky.

 

[dano]

So what was the consensus on Maganacut?

Hype...It'll be replaced by some other alphabet-name steel in a year or two, just like all the others.

 

[Quiet]

404: Nonsense patina developed because it's not actually Magnacut the surface of the blade was fouled by belts used previously on a run of A2 knives (or whatever) NOT FOUND:

 

[Slice O Life]

This is a huge logical disconnect, given that you're here defending a scumbag like Mike Stewart.

That’s true, rick isn’t the only one running hinderer. His workers do care as well I bet.

 

[Quiet]

That’s true, rick isn’t the only one running hinderer. His workers do care as well I bet.

The workers who are building Hinderer knives that all vanish as soon as they're sent to Rick's vendors? Those workers?

And to keep things on topic, Hinderer just sent out another batch of Half-Tracks in Magnacut. Last I checked, almost all of them were gone immediately. Yeah, it's clear to see that some dude working out of his mommy's garage who thinks "Hinderer is doing it wrong" has really impacted their sales.

I am not going keep ragging you on this, I just want it to be clear that that dude wasn't some hero or victim (both of which he tried to be at separate times). Guy needs to stick to just reblading and reprofiling knives made by his betters, take his small piece of the pie, and shut his trap.

 

[Slice O Life]

The workers who are building Hinderer knives that all vanish as soon as they're sent to Rick's vendors? Those workers?

And to keep things on topic, Hinderer just sent out another batch of Half-Tracks in Magnacut. Last I checked, almost all of them were gone immediately. Yeah, it's clear to see that some dude in a garage who thinks "Hinderer is doing it wrong" has really impacted their sales.

I am not going to try to rag you on this, I just want it to be clear that that dude wasn't some hero or victim (both of which he tried to be at separate times). Guy needs to stick to just reblading and reprofiling knives made by his betters, take his small piece of the pie, and shut his trap.

Oh yeah, I mean the only hinderers that stuck around was the slippy… lol. Not saying that transparent knives was doing the wrong thing or right thing, but having a company going after essentially a reviewer with a cease and desist is something I don’t really like. In the end it’s rick’s company though but I think the situation could’ve been handled in a better way in which both parties would win.

 

[Quiet]

Oh yeah, I mean the only hinderers that stuck around was the slippy… lol. Not saying that transparent knives was doing the wrong thing or right thing, but having a company going after essentially a reviewer with a cease and desist is something I don’t really like. In the end it’s rick’s company though but I think the situation could’ve been handled in a better way in which both parties would win.

It absolutely could have. But as was covered in previous threads, Hinderer Knives is a very small company*, so some Instagram loser who was (let's be super clear about this) out for fame and to increase his fanbase on IG, going and talking trash publically about another company's product after claiming he was some expert, is BS. Hinderer didn't know how this might affect his company, so he did the right thing, and sent that kid a cease and desist letter. I'd have done the same. I mean, you just said on the last page that you'd never buy a Hinderer because of that situation. It's what Rick was wanting to avoid, people suddenly stopping purchasing his products due to unsubstantiated claims.

Thankfully, most people recognized what "Transparent" Knife Reprofiler was trying to do, and have ignored him, and Hinderer continues to make a great knife and they go fast. The company can't keep up with demand.



* Yes, it is, look it up.

 

[Slice O Life]

404: Nonsense patina developed because it's not actually Magnacut the surface of the blade was fouled by belts used previously on a run of A2 knives (or whatever) NOT FOUND:

It does happen, here is that LC200N rusty spyderco post I was talking about earlier.

My LC200N Mule Rusted. How is that possible??

This is my fishing knife. This is the second time this has happened. I can polish it off with some flitz, but I didn't think it would rust this easily. @Surfingringo leaves his in the salt, and he got a pin head spot after like a year. Mine didn't even sit in it. It was just used to cut...

www.bladeforums.com

 

[Slice O Life]

It absolutely could have. But as was covered in previous threads, Hinderer Knives is a very small company*, so some Instagram loser who was (let's be super clear about this) out for fame and to increase his fanbase on IG, going and talking trash publically about another company's product after claiming he was some expert, is BS. Hinderer didn't know how this might affect his company, so he did the right thing, and sent that kid a cease and desist letter. I'd have done the same. I mean, you just said on the last page that you'd never buy a Hinderer because of that situation. It's what Rick was wanting to avoid, people suddenly stopping purchasing his products due to unsubstantiated claims.

Thankfully, most people recognized what "Transparent" Knife Reprofiler was trying to do, and have ignored him, and Hinderer continues to make a great knife and they go fast. The company can't keep up with demand.



* Yes, it is, look it up.

Oh yeah I can totally understand Rick’s side. Social media outrage can kill companies, and with Transparent Knives trying to get as much attention as possible, his post about Rick’s HRC were clickbaity as hell. Still, maybe Rick can just hire someone to deal with situations like that, that is why PR exists. I mean, I work as a chef and there is a reason why we separate the consumers from the makers through servers.

 

[Slice O Life]

The workers who are building Hinderer knives that all vanish as soon as they're sent to Rick's vendors? Those workers?

And to keep things on topic, Hinderer just sent out another batch of Half-Tracks in Magnacut. Last I checked, almost all of them were gone immediately. Yeah, it's clear to see that some dude working out of his mommy's garage who thinks "Hinderer is doing it wrong" has really impacted their sales.

I am not going keep ragging you on this, I just want it to be clear that that dude wasn't some hero or victim (both of which he tried to be at separate times). Guy needs to stick to just reblading and reprofiling knives made by his betters, take his small piece of the pie, and shut his trap.

Maybe I shall give hinderers another chance, this whole thread has made me rethink some things…

 

[Quiet]

It does happen, here is that LC200N rusty spyderco post I was talking about earlier.

My LC200N Mule Rusted. How is that possible??

This is my fishing knife. This is the second time this has happened. I can polish it off with some flitz, but I didn't think it would rust this easily. @Surfingringo leaves his in the salt, and he got a pin head spot after like a year. Mine didn't even sit in it. It was just used to cut...

www.bladeforums.com

From a company like Spyderco, I'd actually believe it. From a company like BRK who has been caught in the past selling knives that were marked as a steel they weren't, they don't get the benefit of the doubt. Also, Sal Glesser would never speak to customers, or potential customers the way Mike Stewart does, so it's a wash.

 

[Slice O Life]

From a company like Spyderco, I'd actually believe it. From a company like BRK who has been caught in the past selling knives that were marked as a steel they weren't, they don't get the benefit of the doubt. Also, Sal Glesser would never speak to customers, or potential customers the way Mike Stewart does, so it's a wash.

All I was trying to say with that, is that it is possible, and companies should respond to that kind of situation with the same grace that sal uses.

 

[Quiet]

Maybe I shall give hinderers another chance, this whole thread has made me rethink some things…

Hopefully, you'll get a chance to attend a BLADE show, and meet Rick in person at some point. That guy will stand there and chat with you about knives or anything else candidly and politely. I've met him a few times now, and he's been a genuinely nice human being each time. I didn't mean to turn this into a rehashing of old subjects from last year, but Hinderer is one of the good guys who's just trying to sell knives, pay his employees, and put food on his table. Some IG doofus cloutchaser who set himself up as some sort of expert on heat-treats, and blade steels trying to talk trash just doesn't rate.

Anyway, to keep on topic, Magnacut is continuing to come out from many companies, and if a company makes something you like with it, I can highly recommend it.

 

[Slice O Life]

Hopefully, you'll get a chance to attend a BLADE show, and meet Rick in person at some point. That guy will stand there and chat with you about knives or anything else candidly and politely. I've met him a few times now, and he's been a genuinely nice human being each time. I didn't mean to turn this into a rehashing of old subjects from last year, but Hinderer is one of the good guys who's just trying to sell knives, pay his employees, and put food on his table. Some IG doofus cloutchaser who set himself up as some sort of expert on heat-treats, and blade steels trying to talk trash just doesn't rate.

Anyway, to keep on topic, Magnacut is continuing to come out from many companies, and if a company makes something you like with it, I can highly recommend it.

Oh yeah, and this is just for 20cv and M390 as well (the controversy). Once the switch goes in full, I wouldnt doubt that Rick could get Magnacut to 63-64 HRC, and then it would be over.

I am a firm believer that once the price goes down and availability goes up, Magnacut will replace most high end steels. Like when VG-10 replaced 420HC, or when S30V replaced VG-10. This should be a new era of Magnacut. Soon we will be so bored of it, people will actively search out S35VN hinderers and crks because they are different from the norm.

 

[Alberta Ed]

I can highly recommend the Bradford 3 model in your scale color of choice. I've carried one off and on since June and it's a phenomenal EDC fixed blade. Really a fantastic knife. Also, Bradford Knives is run by a great husband and wife team who aren't dirtbags like Mike Stewart, which is a huge plus.

Edited to add: I've used this knife for months for everything from opening the mail to processing food tasks, and it's still as shiny as the day I picked it up off Bradford's table at BLADE. None of this "Well see, the belts must have impregnated the Magnacut blades with steel dust from other metals and THAT'S why our Magnacut blades quickly develop a patina" malarky.

I'll have a look at those. Thanks! (Done... ordered a Guardian 3 from Bradford. )

 

[kafolarbear]

I can highly recommend the Bradford 3 model in your scale color of choice. I've carried one off and on since June and it's a phenomenal EDC fixed blade. Really a fantastic knife. Also, Bradford Knives is run by a great husband and wife team who aren't dirtbags like Mike Stewart, which is a huge plus.

Edited to add: I've used this knife for months for everything from opening the mail to processing food tasks, and it's still as shiny as the day I picked it up off Bradford's table at BLADE. None of this "Well see, the belts must have impregnated the Magnacut blades with steel dust from other metals and THAT'S why our Magnacut blades quickly develop a patina" malarky.

When I was really new to knives and called up Bradford because one of their knives caught my eye online the lady on the phone was super nice, patiently guided me through what steel they felt had the best heat treatment and was best for my uses as well as blade grind, blade finish, etc she even gave me a couple of discount codes and said she'd keep an eye out for my order in the shop. When my knife came, it came with a couple different sheaths for free since I'd discussed that I wasn't sure what sheath I wanted. Overall they seem like super nice people, it was a 10/10 customer service experience and I got a phenomenal knife to boot.

 

[kafolarbear]

I was thoroughly unimpressed with the magnacut brk put on their bushcraft scout and bravo 1.

Chipped and dull after a night of making feathersticks and kindling.

Sold em, I'll try someone else's magnacut, hopefully it won't suck a 3rd time.

Probably the famous bark river burnt edge, I took my bushcraft scout to the other side of the world with the factory edge and it held up great, though it dulled a bit faster than I would've liked. I came home, carefully sharpened it with a belt sander to a literal hair whittling edge and now the knife blows me away performance wise. That being said, it's probably the last bark river I'll ever buy. It's a shame no one else really makes knives in that style other than *maybe* LT Wright. It really put a bad taste in my mouth when Mike Stewart told me personally that it was impossible that they had ever burnt an edge on any of their knives on top of the quality control issues I've had and all the other scandals involving them.

 

[Quiet]

I'll have a look at those. Thanks! (Done... ordered a Guardian 3 from Bradford. )

That's excellent, I hope that you'll get it in, and find it enjoyable to carry and use!

 

[Slice O Life]

Probably the famous bark river burnt edge, I took my bushcraft scout to the other side of the world with the factory edge and it held up great, though it dulled a bit faster than I would've liked. I came home, carefully sharpened it with a belt sander to a literal hair whittling edge and now the knife blows me away performance wise. That being said, it's probably the last bark river I'll ever buy. It's a shame no one else really makes knives in that style other than *maybe* LT Wright. It really put a bad taste in my mouth when Mike Stewart told me personally that it was impossible that they had ever burnt an edge on any of their knives on top of the quality control issues I've had and all the other scandals involving them.

I'd just like to say that there are a few good makers that do a similar if not better job than bark river in magnacut. Check out the fixed blades on the knife makers market here on the exchange. We are blessed to have some really talented folks making knives on the forum.