Originally posted by Jedi Knife:
The truth is, most people assume that because they are priced so high, that they are automatically better than lower priced knives. That type of thinking is ignorant, to put it as kindly as possible. Don't pay attention to those who have to resort to totally non knife-related comparisons to explain why the Sebenza is a better knife, either, as obviously these sophomoric "analogies" say nothing about knives.
It's remarkable how many Sebenza threads end up like this, with the owners who paid so much money for one getting offended at anyone who dislikes them.
The real truth is that 1) I doubt that you are knowledgable enough to know what "most people think" and 2)the real reason ANY thread ends up in flames is because of posts such as yours. You started the name calling and now you pretend it never happened. I doubt that most people would get upset about whether you like or dislike the Sebenza. But your attack was not aimed specifically at the knife, unless a knife can be sophomoric and ignorant. That would be an amazing feat. And btw, you have yet to make a single post illustrating the so called "fact" that Sebenza's are not worth the money people pay for them. So why don't you stick to the facts. Go ahead and attack the knife, I could care less. In fact, since I don't own one, I'd love to learn all the bad things about Sebenzas before I send in the check.
But do away with the name calling and personal attacks. You can deny it all you want but your posts speak for themselves. If you are tired of listening to people rhapsodize about Sebenzas, why do you jump into the threads?
Matt,
What I attacked is your logic. Not you. And I never said that you are not entitled to an opinion. You can say what you want about anything but don't expect me to buy your logic because in this instance, IMO, in just doesn't hold up. And that's my opinion. I'm just as entitled as you to have one.
Those old case slip joints that sell for 1000's of dollars are rare, collectors peices. Everybody and his brother has a sebenza, its no where near a rare knife.If you buy one because you want one thats fine. But stop trying to twist everyones arm into buying one too.
1) Neither I nor my brother own a Sebenza. So you lose that argument.
And btw, I don't know anyone personally that a) owns one and b) ever heard of one. I guess I just don't know "everyone" like you do. 2) Evidently you didn't get the point about the case knives. There are lots of reasons why people buy knives. No doubt Sebenzas are not antiques. Thus, you don't have to pay thousands of dollars for them. But you pay the market price. And over and over again, people have stated specific reasons why they are willing to pay the price. People have their reasons. And it isn't just because the price is high as JK insinuates. Where's the logic there? There are lots of expensive knives on the market. In theory, then, all knife dealers have to do to sell more knives is to jack up the prices and that will fool people into buying more knives 'cause they think they are getting better knives because the price is higher. Yeah, right. If the quality and appeal isn't there, people are NOT going to keep coming back and buy more at the kinds of prices we are talking about. Yeah, you're certainly paying for reputation. Welcome to America.
I ordered a small Sebenza "new classic" and I was just told I have a 4 month wait. If you want to play, you have to pay. I can live with the price and the wait. Evidently you can't. Fine. You're entitled to your opinion. And so am I.
BTW, I would appreciate it if you would quote that specific post of mine where I am "trying to twist everyones arm" into buying a Sebenza.
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Hoodoo
The low, hoarse purr of the whirling stonethe light-pressd blade,
Diffusing, dropping, sideways-darting, in tiny showers of gold,
Sparkles from the wheel.
Walt Whitman
[This message has been edited by Hoodoo (edited 02-19-2000).]
