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Why Spyderco?

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by RealVendetta, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. RealVendetta

    RealVendetta Gold Member Gold Member

    84
    Sep 30, 2019
    So I have 1 Spyderco. A Native 1 in Gin1 steel. Honestly kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Ive had it for years. It folds like a traditional. Slow and gritty. No flicking here. It holds an edge for about 36 seconds in the real world. Its partially serrated. Its everything I now dislike about knives.

    That being said I have become a huge knife fan in the last few months and feel I may need to reconsider my disdain for Spyderco. But I love flippers and fidgety knives. And good ball bearings. And big pocket folders (my last purchase was a Kizer Sheepdog XL)So why Spyderco? Should I give them another shot? What model?
     
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  2. ric75

    ric75

    101
    Jun 2, 2017
    For sure!

    Sliverax is large, flipper and spydiehole and ball bearings. The detent is on the soft side.

    Shaman should also be for you.
    Big knife with compression lock = fidgety.
     
  3. hauntedhouse

    hauntedhouse

    31
    Dec 18, 2013
    Spyderco has tons of incredible knives and steels- more steel options than any other company, by a long shot. Steels that run circles around M4, m390, s35v, etc.

    Basing your entire opinion of the company off that one knife is ridiculous.

    That said- if fidgety ball bearing flipper knives are your thing, Spyderco probably isn’t for you.
     
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  4. RealVendetta

    RealVendetta Gold Member Gold Member

    84
    Sep 30, 2019
    Ridiculous or not when your only experience feels like a gas station knife and there are literally 1000s of better options out there, that 1 knife painting the company in a negative light (to me) makes more sense.
     
  5. McFeeli

    McFeeli

    Feb 13, 2017
    If you want a big, ball bearing flipper then Spyderco isn’t the best choice. If you want a knife that cuts stuff like a knife should, or on point ergonomics then give them a try. Materials to price is usually really good with them as well. I’ve had the chance to try awesome steels because of Spyderco.

    I’d suggest you try out a PM2 or a Manix, both extremely flip well using phosphorus bronze washers, both cut like demons, and the Manix 2 is probably the most ergonomic folder I’ve owned so far. They’re both popular folders for reason. Find a store to handle them in person if you can, I can flip my Manix and PM2 as easily as any of my ball bearing flippers, and they’re nearly just as smooth.

    On another note, back locks aren’t really designed to be flipped open, I don’t think any of mine do it well at all. You might have expected a bit too much out of that Native 1.
     
  6. Therom

    Therom

    Nov 13, 2013
    Spyderco offers great design
    IMO it would be sad for you to disregard the brand for one bad experience

    however if you are into flippers Spyderco may not be the best company for you

    However the middle finger spydie flick is very fun
    Combined with a compression lock it is very fun and fidgety
    I like the PM2/PM3 platform
    But you recently the Shaman has been prized by a lot of users
     
  7. Blues

    Blues Lapsed SuperMod / Cattle Knife Rustler Staff Member Super Mod

    Oct 2, 1998
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  8. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 16, 2018
    My Gen 1 Gin 1 Native works just fine. So, does my fluted CF S90V Native 5. And, I got over 130 other Spydercos (at last count) which are also all just fine.

    FWIW, there's a certain technique that you need to learn to how to "flick" open Spyders only using the Spydie hole (and a Native isn't really designed for flipping or flicking) but Spyderco also makes some very nice "flipper" knives. My favorite Spyder flipper is the Advocate but are there many others. And, some models, especially those w/compression locks, can just be opened w/a wrist flick because of their weak detent (which some people hate but that I love).

    So, yes, I think you should give the brand "another shot." LOL! ;)
     
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  9. AF

    AF Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    For a flipper I probably wouldn't choose Spyderco although there are some good ones. The gen 2 Advocate (now discontinued and on closeout where available) flips well.
    Spyderco beats the competition in design, high performance grinds, variety of modern steels and optimal heat treatments. And there's only one Sal Glesser.
     
  10. RealVendetta

    RealVendetta Gold Member Gold Member

    84
    Sep 30, 2019
    Not trolling. Just having a conversation.
     
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  11. Danke42

    Danke42

    Feb 10, 2015
    Weird way to start a conversation.

    Spyderco has 2 recent knives that are modern flippers. The Smock, and the Ikuchi. Lots of threads on the Smock here, fewer on the Ikuchi.
     
  12. P2P

    P2P Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 24, 2010
    Try a Para 2. Great action, fidget friendly.
     
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  13. Jarhead Greasemonkey

    Jarhead Greasemonkey Gold Member Gold Member

    308
    Jan 4, 2015
    Your username would suggest otherwise...

    Just sayin.

    FWIW I'll chime in...

    Given your criteria you may be more satisfied by offerings by ZT.

    Not that I've got anything against Spyderco; I love the 3 I own and I'm sure I'll purchase more in the future.
     
  14. Worldwatcher

    Worldwatcher Gold Member Gold Member

    585
    Dec 19, 2015
    With the others on judging off one knives of the thousands offered since that was made. Back locks aren't flippers. I had one that did a lionsteel tm1 but it would cut you quick if you weren't careful. There have been plenty of options for you already said. Plenty of reviews and info here for you to read.
     
  15. RealVendetta

    RealVendetta Gold Member Gold Member

    84
    Sep 30, 2019
    Note to self... Spyderco guys are just like Glock guys.
     
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  16. Therom

    Therom

    Nov 13, 2013
    Now that is trolling :)
     
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  17. RealVendetta

    RealVendetta Gold Member Gold Member

    84
    Sep 30, 2019
    Lol I will admit to a bit of light trolling there. On the knife side of things the Manix 2 XL looks interesting...
     
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  18. AF

    AF Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    Spyderco's ball lock is nice although sometimes people complain that it's harder to disengage than an axis lock. So if you prioritize fidgeting, you might be disappointed. It's difficult to disengage the ball lock with just the thumb. Thumb and index finger is much easier. Personally, I prefer the ball lock to the axis lock because of a more robust coil spring.
     
  19. Therom

    Therom

    Nov 13, 2013
    A lot of people has recommended me the manix 2 and I think it deserves attention
    I prefer the slimmer profile of the PM2 but that is just personal preferences

    what is interesting with the manix is that the lightweight versions are under $100 for a very good design

    I have 2 PM2, 1 PM3, 1 GB2, 1 native 5, 1 salt 2, 1 UKPK. Others have left the collection but my next purchase may be a spydiechef or a shaman...
    Shaman should a better fidget toy than the spydie chef but still not sure about this one

    the GB2 is a very good knife but I have used my stemmed to make the access to the lick easier to disengage
     
  20. lieferung

    lieferung Basic Member Basic Member

    May 24, 2016
    If your last taste of Spyderco was a Native One, you got four generations of knives to catch up on. I can't speak to their older models but I've been collecting knives for the better part of a decade and Spyderco are easily the highest consistent quality that I used.
     
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