wilderness kits, ( & pics)

north-- i like your pot set-up... i generally stash a bunch of items in my snow peak titanium pot too.... :thumbup:

very nice....:D
 
How many of you guys out there, rely soly on your sak?, have you ever been doing something and thought, a fixed would serve the purpose better?. I was thinking about how many times that a fixed blade would be needed over just a sak and axe. And I came to the conclusion that theres nothing a sak and axe cant handle that a fixed blade, sak and an axe could. like opening a seald case, or splitting wood, or carving, or even bush craft for that matter. Heck if you need a bowl you could burn out the shape, and not have to carve it. An axe and a sak could do it all :rolleyes:

Just thinking out loud, what are your thoughts.
 
For the most part, I agree that my SAK is enough tool to handle shelter, game and fire chores and my EDC GAK is the only edged tool I carry when taking short hikes into the hills around our area.

However, I really prefer to have a fixed blade with me on day hikes and over nighters may find me with a chopping tool of some kind. I vary the tools I carry, because I want to keep up on, or develope, my skills with them.
 
Fonly said:
I came to the conclusion that theres nothing a sak and axe cant handle that a fixed blade, sak and an axe could...
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Given the choice between a SAK and a good fixed blade as an only knife, I would take the fixed blade. That said, I can get by with a tiny pen knife, or no knife at all. Once I killed a deer only to find that my trusty fixed blade was missing. I dressed that deer with a little Craftsman/Camillus pen knife. Curious as to how much could actually be done with the knife, I proceeded to skin and butcher the whole deer with it. Another time, I found myself entirely knifeless in a swamp with no stones. I broke a coke bottle and used the glass to dress the deer. I made fire hardened wooden knives when I was a kid, and learned to knap flint to make blades, points, and scrapers, and to fire clay for pots. But given the choice of a SAK or a fixed blade, I'd opt for the fixed blade every time. Oh, and I seldom have use for an ax or hatchet except here on the farm.

Codger
 
Fonly said:
I posted to share, not to be judged. So if you dont like it fine, that wasn't the point.
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Thank you for sharing.

In a later post you said about your pot that it was aluminum, so maybe not the best, were you referring to the oft-quoted link between aluminum and Alzheimer's, because if you were, apparently the evidence is not there to confirm the link.

BTW, whereabouts in Canada are you?

Doc
 
Hey longbow 50,

Nice kit. I've seen you mention that you carry jute in other posts. I'm curious what you use it for. I'm thinking as quickee (and cheap) cord for lashing (shelters, arrow shafts, et al) and as tinder but I am interested in what else.

I guess I'm particularly interested because I use jute for all kinds of things - making slings, nets, Snapping Turtle traps, snares, friction fire bow strings, bags, etc. but I'm always open for more suggestions.

Thanks,

Doc
 
Sorry doc, I didn't know any thing about
an "oft-quoted link between aluminum and Alzheimer's" I just find aluminum to an interesting alloy, it gets really, sticky compared to tin, or a cast cookin pot. And im in grande Prairie alberta, I get my out door fix by searching for things called geo cashes, the placed all over the world and, well its pretty much modern day treasure hunting, but with no gold of course.
 
and Codger, I agree with you all the way, If I had one choice for a bladed tool in a survival situation, it would be a fixed blade also.

the reason I bring that up is because after some of the original posts, it got me thinking what it would be like with only the bare necesities( sak and axe)
but then again, I'm always weary having only a folding knife for my normal cutting chores. I allways remember being a kid and slicing my figer on a non intentional blade closing incedent. Sence then I've only had a fixed blade while in the woods.
 
Fonly said:
Sorry doc, I didn't know any thing about
an "oft-quoted link between aluminum and Alzheimer's" I just find aluminum to an interesting alloy, it gets really, sticky compared to tin, or a cast cookin pot. And im in grande Prairie alberta, I get my out door fix by searching for things called geo cashes, the placed all over the world and, well its pretty much modern day treasure hunting, but with no gold of course.
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This leans away from the main topic, but my daughter was saying the other night that some scientists are placing Alzheimer's in the same disease type as CWD, Mad cow, etc. Which could dispell the aluminum connection. I havn't looked for anything relating to this, but thought I'd throw it out there.
 
DOC-CANADA said:
Hey longbow 50,

Nice kit. I've seen you mention that you carry jute in other posts. I'm curious what you use it for. I'm thinking as quickee (and cheap) cord for lashing (shelters, arrow shafts, et al) and as tinder but I am interested in what else.

I guess I'm particularly interested because I use jute for all kinds of things - making slings, nets, Snapping Turtle traps, snares, friction fire bow strings, bags, etc. but I'm always open for more suggestions.

Thanks,

Doc
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Hey Doc, thanks. I'm a fledgling at best when it comes to primitive uses for cordage. As you mentioned, lashing and fire needs, but I've also tried my hand at netting, firebow string and sling.
 
Zaphod said:
I would still not carry that kind of bag for a BO scenario. I have a similar arrangement to carry my computer and when you bend over to pick something up, it tends to want to fall over the top of your head.
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That's because you are bending at the waist and not lifting with your legs, sorry :o

I have the same pack and carry it every day. Usually just grab it by the handle. It also has a waist belt that sinches across and really keeps the pack on tight. I suppose it would wear down one shoulder if it were over loaded but I don't figure it to be a full blown hiking pack.

Badge54
 
Fonly, I discovered geo caching last month, very fun indeed.

I believe a decent axe would be nice to have, one of those little nessmuk double bits, you could do a lot with that and a sak, but for me the classic "nessmuk trio" would be ideal setup.
Anyone here familiar with nessmuk?

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He believed these three basic tools were an ideal setup, but of course open to variation.anyone have any experience with one of those nessmuk skinners?
 
The Nessmuk trio is a classic but it isn't right for me. I much prefer a single bit hatchet. I have a new Wetterling small hunter that should get a workout this winter. Though I'm not a fan of serrated edges I do like like the GAK and have carried one for over a year now. (I'd sure like to have the run of the Vic factory and build myself a custom SAK). Add a light thin fixed blade and I'm set for camping, day hiking, or just building a fire for the fun of it.
 
Hey liam, I am a mayjor fan of nessmuk's trio, or aka the "the nessmuk trio"
unfortunatly, I haven't had much luck finding double headed axes, I had a larger one, but its larger and no good for a general purpose. It was more of a throwing axe. But I'm thinking of buying the D.H Russel survival knife for my nessmuk knife, and in place of the folder I fayvor a modern multitool or sak.

But that is a great trio you have liam.

Also who made your knife, and I think I've seen that axe on something like ragweeforge site or something else.
 
I should have mentioned, I just took those photos from a site reviewing the nessmuk trio.
I would be mighty pleased to have a little double bit myself, but I think the waiting list is quite long.
I am planning on making a skinner in that style for my next project, nothing too fancy, looking around for some suitable handle slabs. It is a simple yet functional design, so it should be a rewarding project.
 
Do some searches on google and ebay for a cruiser axe. They are still out there. I just can't afford one.
 
There we go I found the link to the ragweeforge site for the double bit axe, Just scroll up the page a few axes.
( but as I'm sure you guessed, out of stock )
http://www.ragweedforge.com/ThrowingCatalog.html#6150alloy


and as far as I know there around $40, but they are extremely popular.

Like 2dogs, im going to keep using my wetterlings in the woods, but the double bit would be a nice addition to any collection.
 
But, I carry the small hatchet and a fixed of some kind most of the time I go out...
 

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Liam Ryan said:
Fonly, I discovered geo caching last month, very fun indeed.

I believe a decent axe would be nice to have, one of those little nessmuk double bits, you could do a lot with that and a sak, but for me the classic "nessmuk trio" would be ideal setup.
Anyone here familiar with nessmuk?

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He believed these three basic tools were an ideal setup, but of course open to variation.anyone have any experience with one of those nessmuk skinners?
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liam-- that is an awesome looking trio you got there... i love that osage nessmuk.... and those osage reeves bouble bits are just too cool... i need one to match my osage longbows:D
 
Codger, I love the Saga of Pyro. I can't believe all the stuff that you do: writer, farmer, contractor, survivalist, expert on Schrade knives, and I've probably missed a few other things. Good life to you. Here's a new job for you, I think you should be writing a book about all your experiences in the woods. :)
 
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