Will a GEC Whittler Rust in the Rain

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Okay, okay, in a weird way I'm all for him doing this. Go ahead and leave it out in the rain for a day or two. Then show pic's of what you find.

I think many will be very surprised to find a mostly intact pocket knife with some staining, but very little real damage. Maybe this will finally put to rest some of those ridiculous rumors that carbon steel will rust away on you overnight.

In fact, I would issue a challenge to ED that he put the knife out in a puddle every night, and that he take it every morning and wipe it off thoughly with a dry bandana, and carry it and use it durring the day. At night, wipe it off again to make sure it's dry, then lay it out in the grass. Put a drop of oil in the joints every few days. Do this for one week. But once in the morning, and once in the evening, the knife gets wiped off and dried with a clean dry bandana.

It's his knife and his money, so let's see what happens. It may surprise some people. The Roman legions marched in the rain, the Vikings sailed open boats across the Atlantic, and the old mountain men carried carbon steel Green River knives and Hawkin rifles in snowy winters in the Rockies. Somehow, someway, their swords, axe's and skinning knives were kept from rusting.

My old boss, Paul, left his TL-29 out on the seat of his tractor for a few days in the rain. It darkened the patina even more, had few flecks of rust that came right off with a scotch bright pad. Didn't hurt the knife at all.

Go for it ED!
 
Don't let 4-boobs distract you from this rust test. You've already got one boob conducting it.:)

Hey, it takes b*lls to knowingly do possible harm to a knife, all in the interest of science, and for the benefit of your fellow man! I salute you, sir! :D ...... or were you not a "sir" when in the Navy? ;)
 
In fact, I would issue a challenge to ED that he put the knife out in a puddle every night, and that he take it every morning and wipe it off thoughly with a dry bandana, and carry it and use it durring the day. At night, wipe it off again to make sure it's dry, then lay it out in the grass. Put a drop of oil in the joints every few days. Do this for one week. But once in the morning, and once in the evening, the knife gets wiped off and dried with a clean dry bandana.

I would issue a challenge to ED to eat a meal of beef, chicken or pork, side starch and salad every day, put the knife out in the rain, wipe it off in the morning and NOT have that blade blacken completely.

Carbon steel blades might be ok for edc by you fellas, but I use my edc's to cut food, and that has not worked out well for me.

Patina=bad.:mad:

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Let's tread easy here. ;).

I am with jackknife on this one. It should not make a big difference. The knife will look a little more "broken in".
 
I'll post pictures after this rain and wet soak test. Who knows. If it doesn't get too rusty, maybe I'll throw it in a bucket of water for a week or so.

Curious question: Would a knife like this rust less if thrown in a bucket of water, rather than just being left outside in the rain? Isn't the presence of oxygen necessary for rust? It seems like there is less "O" in H2O than in the atmosphere, right? ............ or am I "all wet"? :rolleyes:

I know it will rust in a bucket of water, but would it rust slower than out in the rain?
 
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A tackle box knife in the making:thumbdn: Some folks might think Patina is a good name for a little girl, but It's just another name for RUST to me:D
 
Rust happens...it's just a fact of life. It's when you fail to maintain the knife for long periods/intervals that it gets screwed up
 
some of mine came with an oil on blades--others looked like a waxy coating had been applied. since mine span 2007 to 2010 i'm guessing the factory used different protective measures.probably the only rust from your initial test will be on inside backspring. cheers.
 
Curious question: Would a knife like this rust less if thrown in a bucket of water, rather than just being left outside in the rain? Isn't the presence of oxygen necessary for rust? It seems like there is less "O" in H2O than in the atmosphere, right? ............ or am I "all wet"? :rolleyes:

I know it will rust in a bucket of water, but would it rust slower than out in the rain?

I think that is just the case. Somewhere on this forum a while back, there was a photo taken of some knives recovered from an old ship wreck. Some of the knives, in spite of being submerged for well over a century, didn't look too much worse for wear than some edc pocket knives I saw when I was a kid.

I think it was a factor of being totally submerged, and cold temps. Not much oxidization.

Anyone remember that photo, or am I really loosing it?
 
I am really interested in seeing what happens. I know it will rust or stain, but how much. I give you credit for this. Worst that can happen is the knife after being cleaned up with look like it was really used and that is not a bad thing.

thanks
 
I give you credit for this. Worst that can happen is the knife after being cleaned up with look like it was really used and that is not a bad thing.

thanks

It's not really a good thing for a brand-new, expensive knife.
 
Ok, I fess up. Most of my knives are safe queens. I give someone credit for taking and using a knife. In fact I envy them. Most of mine never see cutting time. Now this is extreme, but it is his knife. So, I admire his use of the knife even though it is extreme.
 
I'll say one thing ...... this thread sure has generated a lot of interest, and humor, and varying opinions about this "test".

Here's my take on it, FWIW (which probably isn't much ;)): IIRC, the OP is a retired Navy man - hell, he probably saw more water in one tour of duty, and salt water at that, than a lot of us will see in a lifetime. I'm guessing throwing his knife in a puddle of rain water doesn't really bother him much! :D
 
Somehow I got a drop of water on my GEC Barlow just sitting in my drawer. Rust! Yes, they rust. And rather easily.

And then you clean them up and put them in VINEGAR!!! mwahahaha
 
I really doubt that it's going to "kill" this knife. Since the OP doesn't seem to think it's a big deal, who are we to say otherwise? I figure he's got an idea of what he's doin'. Plus I wanna see it.
 
I'll say one thing ...... this thread sure has generated a lot of interest, and humor, and varying opinions about this "test".

Here's my take on it, FWIW (which probably isn't much ;)): IIRC, the OP is a retired Navy man - hell, he probably saw more water in one tour of duty, and salt water at that, than a lot of us will see in a lifetime. I'm guessing throwing his knife in a puddle of rain water doesn't really bother him much! :D

Yeah, ain't nuthin like being on a steel ship in a big salty sea to experience effects of water on metal. Unless it's a sub, then you don't see a lot of anything 'down there'.:D
 
The wife and I went over to visit some friends late this afternoon and stopped off on the way back for an early steak dinner. When we got home I went out back to look at the knife and it was still pretty danged shiny. I moved it off the dirt and onto a clump of grass as the grass will hold the moisture better overnight and will definitely take on a heavy layer of frost overnight. If it snows, that'll be even better but I don't think it's going to happen.

Gotta get tires on my truck in the morning so it'll be later in the day before I can give another update tomorrow but don't worry, I'll keep you guys informed as time goes on.

One thing I'm wondering about this test is how well the bone handles will hold up. You know -- will they delaminate from the frame, swell and crack, turn color, etc.. We'll see.
 
I would worry less about rust than a neighborhood kid finding an "awesome knife someone lost", lol.

BTW, what is your address exactly? I am getting ready to post a thread about an awesome knife my kid found and gave to me....
 
Rust happens...it's just a fact of life. It's when you fail to maintain the knife for long periods/intervals that it gets screwed up

Not if you avoid carbon steels for knife blades.

I got a GEC harness jack, and have been EDC'ng it....for about another month...and will never buy a carbon blade for a jacknife again.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
This is the traditional forum.
We DON'T:
:mad: pound knives into car doors
:mad: baton them through 2x4's
:mad: see how far we can bend over a blade till it snaps
:mad: soak them in all matter of dubious liquids to see what happens.

We let other subforums do all that nonsense so we can laugh at them.

While I do think Modoc ED's test is pretty interesting, the best result so far is that it generated this post by comoha. I think we need to print this and hang it on the clubhouse door! "Take your new fangled, flippin', serrated, tanto, plastic-handled prybar crap and git!" :grumpy:
 
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