Will cs ever use better steel?

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I'm not really complaining about their current offerings, for the price their fine, but I'd love to see some folders in better steel, like s30v, vg 10, 154cm, anything besides aus 8a. Not that it's a bad steel, there's just better options out there. I love cold steel because their knives are built like tanks, but I hate having to resharpen, 2-3x a week under moderate usage.
 
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I am sad they got rid of the Carbon IV. It was a very good steel. I used to have a Trailmaster in Carbon IV. Badass knife
 
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CTS-BD1 and XHP next year. 3V already being used in the Warcraft Tanto, Trailmaster, Natchez and Laredo in O-1 tool steel?

They're doing it already.
 

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There are some very interesting changes coming for 2015.
 
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We should know for sure by the time the 2015 SHOT Show rolls around in mid-January.

Hopefully, they will post the new stuff on their website like they have done in previous years, most of the time.
 
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Cold Steel will not generally respond to inquiries about its decision to stop using VG-1, which I think is a fine, underrated steel. Now it's mostly used as the center steel of its San Mai III. At first I thought they'd made it harder and thus more brittle so it would bide a superb inner steel. But it's the same ol' VG-1 used in the previous generation of the Voyager series!

I will say that Cold Steel has excellent heat treat. I bought a few of its folding knives with 440A stainless (Night Force, the early Recon and the Pro-Lite). All three of these knives had blisteringly sharp blades, something I haven't seen before or since (most knives now advertised as having 440 blades come dull and stay dull), but Cold Steel's outstanding heat treat actually caused me to nick myself when I carelessly inspected my new Night Force out of my box. Since then, I've kept it razor sharp with minimal effort and, honestly, the blades act more like AUS8 than 440A, which I ordinarily despise. CS's new 4116 Krupp steel, which I viewed as cheap disposable surgical steel, also has exceeded my expectations. (Many people don't realize that surgical implements come very sharp, but they don't hold an edge well, and that they're usually disposed of following an operation.)

All that granted, CS doesn't seem to have any kind of desire to upgrade it's steel. Fortunately, I bought several of the old Voyagers with the VG-1 blades, and though I don't use them, I got them as keepsakes and I'm glad I did.
 
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I definitely agree. Cs gets every drop of performance out of the steel. I actually like 4116 Krupp. Ain't the hardest or best but for the price point it performs excellently.
 
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VG-1 was better than AUS8, but I suspect they brought it out in an era where people weren't willing to pay extra for upgraded steel. Hopefully now they are.
 

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VG-1 takes a very nice edge, The San Mai III blades tend to be a little "flesh hungry".
 
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I know it probably won't happen, but I'd LOVE to see Cold Steel
offer some of thier blades in D2. My large clip point Voyager model
29TLC remade exactly the same but in D2 would be amazing...
 
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Well, they released an early version of the Recon 1 Tanto and AK-47 with Carpenter CTS-XHP steel in 2014.

That steel is basically a stainless (extra chromium) and powered-process version of D2.

It looks like the Voyagers and other FRN-handled knives will get Carpenter's CTS-BD1, which is an improved version of the Japanese Gin-1 from several years ago. (At least it was used in various Spyderco knives.)
 
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I know it probably won't happen, but I'd LOVE to see Cold Steel
offer some of thier blades in D2. My large clip point Voyager model
29TLC remade exactly the same but in D2 would be amazing...

If you like D2 (I do) you will love CTS-XHP (except for trying to say it). As GCG199 said, it is a stainless powdered metal form of D2. It is great stuff. I love it.
 

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So are the G-10 models like Recon, AK and Lawman getting CTS-XHP for 2015?
 
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