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deerhunterp

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A few days ago I was in a store looking at knives. I asked the woman if she knew what steel one of the knives I was looking at had (she was a self proclaimed know it all). She told me that she didn’t know what it was but she could tell me that it was definitely not s30v. I asked her how she knew that and she told me that it was because s30v was grainy. She pointed to a stonewashed Kershaw leek. I didn’t want to get into an argument about how the blade was grainy because it was stonewashed, and not s30v. I should have, but she was snobby and probably told me I was wrong. Anyway… I had to get that off my mind.

What does the CPM in spyderco’s CPM S30V stand for? Is it different than normal S30V?
 
There's no such thing as a non-CPM S30V. I think some folks just leave off the CPM for convenience. They're all the same.
 
S30V is actually a registered trademark belonging to Crucible.
 
deerhunterp said:
I asked her how she knew that and she told me that it was because s30v was grainy. She pointed to a stonewashed Kershaw leek.
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:confused:

This is mind-boggling. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Kershaw still etch the steel type directly on the blade? I have several older Leeks, and I think every one of 'em is clearly marked with the steel used in the blade (usually on the back side, near the tang). If I had been 'assisted' by this person, I would've had her take the knife out of the display case, so I could show it to her and prove how much she obviously doesn't know about these knives.

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There is a black G10-handled Leek w/a stone-washed S30V blade. So, I guess it comes down to whether this was the knife she was pointing to? Still doesn't excuse her claim that she can id the steel based on 'grainy' appearance.

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LorenzoL said:
I hate B&M stores.
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I love educating some of the less informed people who work there about knives. In fact, I've made quite a few sales for some of the knife stores I frequent just because I usually have a little more info about the knives than the employees do.

A few weeks ago, I was at Deepak Chopra's (the knife distributer, not the new age healer) shop. I got to educate Deepak, who probably ought to frequent the forums a bit more, on the blade steel and place of manufacture of Cold Steel's Voyager series. He asked me if my X2 Voyager had Carbon V steel, and if it was made in Taiwan or China.:eek::foot::rolleyes:
 
I was in a knife Store in my local mall a while back and I was looking at the spyderco Bryd line and the salesman said "these are the same steel as the other regular spyderco knives just a made in china" , so I say "look at the blade steel listed on the package and then look at the blade on the white sprint run endura clipped in your pocket" .He was alittle mad about my calling him out but I only did it because there was other people in the store looking over my shoulder looking at the same knives .
 
LorenzoL said:
I hate B&M stores.
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yeah i know!! it sucks having local stores that sell stuff you want that also employ people that live in your town so they can buy stuff from stores that are also in your town and give even more people jobs.... dont be a jerk!!! online shopping is killing our economy so you can save what? a few dollars !!!
 
So I have to be ripped off by a store owner (who, BTW, will pay the lowest wage possible to his employees) in order to subsidize the local economy and not be a jerk? : jerkit :

I am talking about small stores, not online stores that started as a B&M.
 
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LorenzoL said:
So I have to be ripped off by a store owner (who, BTW, will pay the lowest wage possible to his employees) in order to subsidize the local economy and not be a jerk? :jerkit:
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better than the guy who cuts out the middleman and pays nobody but himself!! seems a bit more selfish if you ask me...
 
LorenzoL said:
So I have to be ripped off by a store owner (who, BTW, will pay the lowest wage possible to his employees) in order to subsidize the local economy and not be a jerk? : jerkit :
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Stating that the store owner pays the lowest possible wages may or may not be true, unless you have more info than you posted. Subsidizing the local economy can be a good thing. Even if the wages are low, the employees have jobs. And you didn't mention how you were being ripped off. No one said or implied you were being a jerk.

LorenzoL said:
I am talking about small stores, not online stores that started as a B&M.
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You left that part out too.
 
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To be fair, I don't expect a store attendant paid slightly above minimum wage to know everything about knives, unless he happens to be a knife nut himself. I must have spent hundreds of hours reading about knives here.
 
softrockrenegade said:
yeah i know!! it sucks having local stores that sell stuff you want that also employ people that live in your town so they can buy stuff from stores that are also in your town and give even more people jobs.... dont be a jerk!!! online shopping is killing our economy so you can save what? a few dollars !!!
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So all we have to do is get rid of online commerce and our economy is saved? Please tell us you don't really believe that.

Perhaps if the B&M stores would give a little better service and not be snobby to the customers (as referenced by the OP, not all B&M stores are like that), their customer's would not look to the internet. And it's not to save a few dollars. It's to save quite a few dollars. The difference is as much as 25%, which for a $100 Spyderco/Kershaw/Benchmade adds up. For reference, my local B&M store sells for about 5% to 10% over internet prices, which is usually made up by shipping costs, so I gladly head over to the store. I've never had any issues with the employees either. They answer my questions and I give them my money.
 
I called my local knife store because I wanted to look at few emersons before I buy 'em. Anyway, when I asked the guy weather he had any in stock he said, they don't carry them because they are sharpened on one side. I asked him weather he meant chisel grind and he didn't know what that meant.

I didn't have much time, but found it strange that people who run B&M store don't know stuff like that. I don't think less of a guy, but I thought these were the people who I can ask for knife advise or something.
 
3Guardsmen said:
I love educating some of the less informed people who work there about knives. In fact, I've made quite a few sales for some of the knife stores I frequent just because I usually have a little more info about the knives than the employees do.

A few weeks ago, I was at Deepak Chopra's (the knife distributer, not the new age healer) shop. I got to educate Deepak, who probably ought to frequent the forums a bit more, on the blade steel and place of manufacture of Cold Steel's Voyager series. He asked me if my X2 Voyager had Carbon V steel, and if it was made in Taiwan or China.:eek::foot::rolleyes:
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I remember old Deepak from Cali (I think San Fran?) I went to his house once with a buddy, also used to go to TAD gear in the middle of the worst part of town. There was only one reason those guys didn't get robbed!:D
 
me2 said:
So all we have to do is get rid of online commerce and our economy is saved? Please tell us you don't really believe that.

Perhaps if the B&M stores would give a little better service and not be snobby to the customers (as referenced by the OP, not all B&M stores are like that), their customer's would not look to the internet. And it's not to save a few dollars. It's to save quite a few dollars. The difference is as much as 25%, which for a $100 Spyderco/Kershaw/Benchmade adds up. For reference, my local B&M store sells for about 5% to 10% over internet prices, which is usually made up by shipping costs, so I gladly head over to the store. I've never had any issues with the employees either. They answer my questions and I give them my money.
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you know i dont think that getting rid of online commerce will save our failed economy but every little bit counts ! when someone says something as ignorant as " i hate B&M stores im gonna come back with the extremest response!!! just trying to make a point thats all;)
 
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