Worst Knife Reaction?

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Bastler said:
In 21st century America, with very few exceptions, knives are prohibited in court houses. Just leave it in your vehicle, problem solved.
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Until every place becomes like the courthouse or a supermax .

The core issue is the right to self defense , which realistically requires the right to be armed with weapons .

Once "weapons " are banned for sane and law abiding citizens , the definition of weapon becomes ever more inclusive .

So many of these bad reaction stories do not reflect fear as much as outrage that someone has a "weapon " . :mad: How DARE you !

It doesn't ultimately matter how responsible we are . That never gets noticed and does not serve the purpose of swaying public opinion , so is rarely in the news .

Can you carry something onto a commercial flight or into a prison ? If no , then pretty dang sure it's already considered a weapon and bound to be band ASAP .

Appeasement has never and will never work .
 
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I think it's interesting that some people think it's okay to mock 'sheeple' for being afraid of some random guy they don't know pulling out a tacticool knife in public, but they also think that it's completely legitimate to be afraid to walk around in public without a knife for self defense.

I'm not sure why one set of fear-based behavior is cowardly but the other set of fear-based behavior is supposed to be reasonable.

I prefer to have a knife on me for lots of reasons, but self-defense isn't one of them. A small knife is a fine assassin's weapon, but not a serious self-defense weapon, at least not without years of very serious training. And most serious SD knife training is unarmed defenses against knife attacks. I suspect that 99.999% of the time when people carry a knife for self defence, it's mostly a talisman or comfort thing, not a serious, well-thought out and thoroughly trained with weapon. (I know there are exceptions to that, but I'm pretty sure they are rare.)

But if I see a stranger pull out a knife in a public space, my situational awareness starts pinging pretty intensely - I don't freak out, but I sure do pay attention to see what their intentions seem to be. I may be a 'knife guy', but I guess that makes me a sheeple to some of you, too.

Oh well.

-Tyson
 
Tyson A Wright said:
I think it's interesting that some people think it's okay to mock 'sheeple' for being afraid of some random guy they don't know pulling out a tacticool knife in public, but they also think that it's completely legitimate to be afraid to walk around in public without a knife for self defense.

I'm not sure why one set of fear-based behavior is cowardly but the other set of fear-based behavior is supposed to be reasonable.

I prefer to have a knife on me for lots of reasons, but self-defense isn't one of them. A small knife is a fine assassin's weapon, but not a serious self-defense weapon, at least not without years of very serious training. And most serious SD knife training is unarmed defenses against knife attacks. I suspect that 99.999% of the time when people carry a knife for self defence, it's mostly a talisman or comfort thing, not a serious, well-thought out and thoroughly trained with weapon. (I know there are exceptions to that, but I'm pretty sure they are rare.)

But if I see a stranger pull out a knife in a public space, my situational awareness starts pinging pretty intensely - I don't freak out, but I sure do pay attention to see what their intentions seem to be. I may be a 'knife guy', but I guess that makes me a sheeple to some of you, too.

Oh well.

-Tyson
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The whole "they're banning our knives and guns!!!" people IMO are fearmongering. Look, I live in Mississippi. I can carry a gun on my hip, or a big fixed blade. It's my legal right. I carry knives every day, everywhere, except where I can't because it is forbidden. I've even gone into my local courthouse with a knife in my pocket. I'm not sure that's legal, but the officer there has never stopped me. If he said something I would comply and leave my knife at home, in the car, etc. No big deal.

If knives and guns being banned or outlawed really makes you so upset, then join Knife Rights (for knives) and one of the many gun rights organizations (except the NRA...they are not what they used to be). Make your voice heard, in a respectful way. Running around with an AR strapped to you saying you are exercising your 2nd amendment rights makes you look like an idiot, IMO. It does nothing to help your cause, it just makes you look like a lunatic. Having a pistol on your hip? No big deal. Disagree with me if you want, I don't care, but shoving your views in other's faces just to make a statement or get a reaction makes you an asshole.

I myself have explained to people that knives are not weapons, anymore than a hammer is a weapon. Same thing when a buddy of mine was calling a range to see what the rules were about going to shoot. The guy on the phone said "bring your weapon in a case, or unloaded and locked open so we can see it's clear". I took offense to the guy saying it is a weapon. A gun is a tool. What you do with that tool determines if it is a weapon or not. Again, disagree with me if you want, I don't care.

You have a voice, you can express it and support organizations who try to get stupid laws repealed. However, if you run around and do the Psycho scene with your knife to scare some little old lady, or run around with an AR-15 screaming about your 2nd amendment rights, you are part of the problem. And no, I have not had any issues when taking out my knives and using them. Sometimes I get questions about why I carry big knives, and if I think someone is out to get me. No, I just like knives. No big deal.

Ok, I'm done.
 
In the high school we started throwing a big chefs knife into an old tree standing in the yard.
After a few days, we got really good at it. We only stopped when the knife completely fell apart.
The tree was pretty damaged too. No one cared.
Different times.
 
kobold said:
In the high school we started throwing a big chefs knife into an old tree standing in the yard.
After a few days, we got really good at it. We only stopped when the knife completely fell apart.
The tree was pretty damaged too. No one cared.
Different times.
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40 some years ago in Thailand, a fellow Peace Corps Volunteer in Thailand rented a house in a compound that had 3 houses: his, the owner's and another. The other house was occupied by some butchers of the Muslim persuasion. They would occasionally be seen throwing knives at a tree in the yard on their day off. It was a very safe place to live.
 
Classic thread. Love it.


I was one quarter of a golf foursome at a country club I had no right being at. I usually shoot triple digits when following USGA rules.
The other three fourths of the foursome were gentlemen that can afford to pay others to guarantee their personal security.
I had forgotten my divot repair tool.
I actually hit the green once or twice and needed to repair a ball mark.
Using my Benchmade AFCK as a divot repair tool brought forth looks a of shock, and comments of “that’s quite a large switchblade you have there!” I passed it off as just a pocket knife, and explained that their irons were a scarier weapons than my makeshift divot tool.

In my experience anything other than a SAK or beautiful Case looks like a John Wick switchblade to a commoner.
 
DocJD said:
Best always stay right there and hope things don't change on a federal level that will supersede state / local laws . :rolleyes:
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actually, i would rather be out of here. it's not bad, but the constant...you know what? I'd better not say anything, because religious and political discussions are not welcome in general.

as for changing things on a federal level, that is why we have organizations to fight for our rights. contribute to them, call and write your representatives, make your voice heard. it's like a union. strength in numbers.
 
I'm older than most of you. Maybe a lot older. Monday I will have made 70 trips around the sun. I was born in a different time, a different culture. There was no such things as "snowflakes", "micro-aggressions", "safe spaces". My generation would have thought all that was insanity. I still do.
I've carried a knife of one sort or another almost all of my life. It was manly when manly was expected of men and was the norm. No one blinked an eye when someone opened their knife to open a package, cut a line, or a steak. As for court houses, I know what the rules are. I go in occasionally for business. If I have a blade on me I drop it in the provided basket. Thats why the basket is there in the first place. I don't have to leave it in the vehicle! Should someone get a case of the vapors if I use my knife for a purpose for which it was intended as a tool, then that's their burden, not mine. I don't feel any obligation to attenuate their feelings.
And, NO, I don't carry a knife for "self-defense". Thats what the Sig is for.
 
With respect,

DMG said:
Whittling at a playground full of kids is a bit creepy
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Why is public activity that is perfectly reasonable and lawful suddenly creepy if a family with kids shows up at the same park? Or why should a person not engage in reasonable lawful activities in a beautiful outdoor location just because a family with kids is already there?

Making unwanted approaches to the kids? Creepy. Staring at the kids? Creepy. Going about your business in public, amidst whoever is also doing the same? Fine by me.

DMG said:
and if the kids are running around like kids do, potentially dangerous.
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So was their drive to the park. If the children are going to treat strangers like playground equipment, then obviously its time to move on as that does invite accidents, but otherwise, I see no problem with people sharing the same park as children, and using your EDC knife for a constructive and lawful purpose.
 
With respect,

Tyson A Wright said:
A small knife is a fine assassin's weapon
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I would think assassin needs to kill quickly and decisively, preferably at range. A small knife doesn't fit the bill at all.

Tyson A Wright said:
not a serious self-defense weapon, at least not without years of very serious training.
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Mike Janich's MBC does away with that notion.

Tyson A Wright said:
But if I see a stranger pull out a knife in a public space, my situational awareness starts pinging pretty intensely - I don't freak out, but I sure do pay attention to see what their intentions seem to be.
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As well you should.
 
soc_monki said:
Running around with an AR strapped to you saying you are exercising your 2nd amendment rights makes you look like an idiot, IMO. It does nothing to help your cause, it just makes you look like a lunatic.
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I agree with this completely. However, I think if a person wanted to do it for a demonstration, and called local law enforcement ahead of time, and said "Good afternoon officers, I will be at such and such a place with such and such other people, and we will be open carrying our rifles in a safe and lawful manner as a 2nd Amendment demonstration, and we would love for you to attend and help us educate the public" that is a slightly different story than walking around with the sling waiting for someone to call the cops about the guy standing in the street or park with a rifle.
 
craytab said:
I'll bet "most" of us have not had "many" moments where we have scared people by using our knives. And in fact, the situation in your OP has nothing to do with what you describe in the above statement. Separate issue entirely.

I have not had any moments where it was obvious to me someone was uncomfortable while I used a knife.

If I know I am going to a place where knives aren't allowed, I don't bring them.
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I also am not aware of ever upsetting a bystander using my pocket knife. Of course, I never really look for that reaction or expect it. I use my knife in a business like manner, with no flipping or flicking it open, and I don t pay attention to those around me.
I have had my knife on me a couple of times when I couldn t carry it to my destination. Not because I was trying to do anything wrong. I just put my knife inside my waist band every morning when dressing, then I forget about it until I need it. Inadvertently, I carried it to board an airplane, shortly after 9/11. I was prepared to let the TSA officer have it. He gave me a chance to take it back to my car, which I did. On another occasion, my daughter surprised me with tickets to a Phillies game a few years ago when I was visiting her. To my surprise, they were checking for weapons, which included pocket knives, at the park entrance. I figured I would just let them have my knife, but after patting my pockets, as they were doing for all entrants, my iwb folder was not discovered. I said nothing about the knife, and with no metal detectors, it wasn t discovered.
 
David Mary said:
With respect,



Why is public activity that is perfectly reasonable and lawful suddenly creepy if a family with kids shows up at the same park? Or why should a person not engage in reasonable lawful activities in a beautiful outdoor location just because a family with kids is already there?

Making unwanted approaches to the kids? Creepy. Staring at the kids? Creepy. Going about your business in public, amidst whoever is also doing the same? Fine by me.



So was their drive to the park. If the children are going to treat strangers like playground equipment, then obviously its time to move on as that does invite accidents, but otherwise, I see no problem with people sharing the same park as children, and using your EDC knife for a constructive and lawful purpose.
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The way he worded it, he wasn’t just at a park. He was whittling “in” the playground. Not at the playground or near the playground. Doing anything weird in the playground is creepy to me. And at most playgrounds I have seen if you are in the playground there will be kids around you.

Your points are valid too and I do respect your opinion.
 
David Mary said:
I would think assassin needs to kill quickly and decisively, preferably at range. A small knife doesn't fit the bill at all.
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If you're thinking of cinematic assassins, sure. But there is a lot of disturbing security camera footage of knife attacks (easy to find online), and that's what I was thinking of. Maybe 'assassin' is the wrong word - but what I mean is stealthy sneak attack against an unprepared victim. Knives work great for that.

David Mary said:
Mike Janich's MBC does away with that notion.
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Martial arts and self defense are only slightly related. Last time I looked at Janich's stuff, I saw a lot of dojo moves that are cool but have little to do with actual defense. I saw no sparring, or working against non-compliant partners. I saw no emphasis on getting your knife deployed, or what to do if you don't have time for that. It's a martial art, and might be worth training in for lots of reasons, but I don't think it really has much to do with real world self defense. (That's not an insult, at least not from me - none of the martial arts I've trained in had anything to do with modern self defense either.)

But even if Janich's stuff is legit, it doesn't invalidate my point at all. I've bolded the parts of my original quote below that make allowances for this.
Tyson A Wright said:
...A small knife is a fine assassin's weapon, but not a serious self-defense weapon, at least not without years of very serious training...I suspect that 99.999% of the time when people carry a knife for self defence, it's mostly a talisman or comfort thing, not a serious, well-thought out and thoroughly trained with weapon. (I know there are exceptions to that, but I'm pretty sure they are rare...
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So my original quote makes allowances that maybe somebody does use a knife for self-defense and is serious about it - it takes a lot of work for that, though. If you think that you can use Janich's stuff under real-world pressure, without having spent years of hard work on it, I think you're deluding yourself, and I hope you never have to find out the hard way.

-Tyson
 
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